Correct, but Tranzeo does not have a 3.65 (USA) Pico, just a 5.8 Pico for the USA. They do have 3.5 (non-USA) pico as well.
Jeff Holdenrid wrote: > Redline, APerto, and Vecima are offering a full solution with base > station and CPE (built by Tranzeo) > > Tranzeo has the Pico solution that is 100% Tranzeo AP and CPE. > The PICO is lower cost and is limited to a low number of CPE's to AP's. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Randy Cosby > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 1:59 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 > > Do you mean the CPE? They have a 5.8 pico base station, but only 3.65 > CPE/SU from what I've been told by Tranzeo. Something to do with their > choice of chipset. > > Gino Villarini wrote: > >> Tranzeo just got their AP certified, not the Aperto >> >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > On > >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:43 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 >> >> >> >> Tranzeo and Aperto are operating in a partnership. Their base station >> was around $8k when I checked about 30 days ago. >> >> Travis >> >> >> Gino Villarini wrote: >> >> Tranzeo >> Airspan >> Vecima >> >> All 802.16d >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > On > >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:15 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 >> >> Like? >> >> Gino Villarini wrote: >> >> >> There are some below $5k BSU solutions on the market >> >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> On >> >> >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:30 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 >> >> >> >> Matt, >> >> I agree. We are looking at the same thing... putting up some >> 3.65ghz >> AP's on our "bigger" towers and moving heavy usage customers to >> that. >> However, until base stations are less than $8k, the WiMax people >> can >> keep spending money on advertising, trade-shows, etc. telling us >> how >> great they are, I'm not going to buy. >> >> When you can buy a licensed microwave radio link for $8k (less >> antennas), and you know the company is making money, there is no >> >> >> reason >> >> >> 3.65ghz base stations have to be $8k+. >> >> Hopefully at some point, they will wake up and realize there is >> an >> entire market they are missing. >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: >> >> I'm with Travis on this, with the exception of using StarOS >> instead of >> >> >> >> >> >> Mikrotik. It is nice to have a set of standard, mature tools >> such as >> >> >> >> >> >> radius, cbq/iptable rules and standard, non-vendor specific >> hardware >> >> >> to >> >> >> work with instead of having to use a limited, proprietary system >> >> >> limited >> >> >> to a single vendor. I've deployed/consulted on 802.11 a/b/g >> networks >> representing 8000+ CPE units and it can be made to work just >> fine as >> long as it is managed properly. Travis is a pro, and he has >> the >> experience to design his network in such a way as to maximize >> the >> performance of his equipment. There are many others out there >> having >> >> >> >> >> >> the same success. >> >> FWIW, I believe the most logical next step is to start moving >> heavy >> usage customers over to 3.65 WiMAX gear starting next spring. >> I >> >> >> think >> >> >> we are near the threshold of what is going to be possible with >> unlicensed equipment - barring some kind of amazing >> breakthrough. I >> foresee a need to deploy smaller and smaller cells to maintain >> the >> desired performance level. It helps to have 10mhz channel sizes >> >> available to maximize the utilization of existing spectrum, but >> even >> that is starting to get awfully crowded. Whitespaces sure >> would >> >> >> help. >> >> >> >> I spent the last two years putting up 802.11a based APs across >> my >> >> >> entire >> >> >> service area and migrating customers from 2.4 to them to get the >> >> >> higher >> >> >> ARPU from faster speeds and VOIP service. I foresee spending >> the >> >> >> next >> >> >> two years deploying licensed backhauls and 3.65 APs starting >> with the >> >> >> >> >> >> high traffic areas and working out to the fringes. Its the >> >> >> neverending >> >> >> story. >> >> Matt Larsen >> vistabeam.com >> >> >> >> Travis Johnson wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> We don't use DHCP. Every single customer gets a real, static >> IP >> address. >> We also a assign a static IP address to every radio (for >> management). >> >> When I posted the question a month ago about how to force an >> SM >> to >> connect to a specific AP on a tower, the only answer was >> "color >> code". >> This isn't really an option, as that means the installer has >> to >> change >> the color code in the field. All of our current radios are >> setup >> and >> ready to connect to ANY tower and ANY AP on that tower without >> the >> installer doing anything in the field. >> >> And how does first level tech support even find the correct >> radio in the >> AP list for a customer on the phone? They have to scroll >> through >> 160 >> people to find them by MAC address? >> >> Yes, Canopy is a slower radio in today's world. 14Mbps of >> total >> throughput on a 20mhz channel is SLOW. Using Mikrotik I can >> get >> 30Mbps >> (double the speed) on the same channel size. Or I can use a >> 10mhz >> channel and get 15Mbps. And all these speeds can be delivered >> via upload >> or download or any combination, I don't have to set a specific >> >> percentage of up/down. >> >> And how do you guarantee 7ms latency? What happens if a >> customer >> gets >> 8ms? And how do they test that measurement? And what happens >> when a >> customer completely clobbers an AP and 160 customers are >> getting >> 20ms >> latency? Or you have interference from a new provider and all >> those >> people get 100ms latency? >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> >> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> >> >> >> All of the complaints are easily overcome with the >> proper management software, DHCP reservations etc. You can >> easily >> >> >> force >> >> >> the SM to connect to the exact AP you want a couple different >> ways. >> >> >> And >> >> >> there are several non motorola software packages that do this >> kind of >> stuff. We have 5000 subs on it and we don't break a sweat in >> managing >> any of this. >> >> We put 128-160 customers per AP and they all still get >> 10.2 Mbps burst. Slower radio? That seems pretty fast to me. >> And we guarantee latency to 7 mS. Hmmm, that is pretty >> hard to do with anyone else. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Travis Johnson >> To: WISPA General List >> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers >> >> >> We've tried Canopy... twice in fact... once about 3 >> years ago, and once about a month ago. We just can't make it fit >> into >> our network management (IP database, Call tracking, customer >> >> >> management, >> >> >> etc.) system very well... having customer radios that change >> their >> >> >> LUID >> >> >> and IP address every time they register, having to set the >> bandwidth >> >> >> on >> >> >> each SM instead of the AP, having no security or ways to control >> which >> AP a customer connects to without having to buy their software, >> etc. >> >> All that, plus paying MORE for a slower radio than >> what we are using just didn't make sense. I can put up an AP >> (2.4ghz, >> 5.3ghz, 5.4ghz, or 5.8ghz) for less than >> $400 that will support 50 customers, using only 10mhz >> wide channels... and each CPE is less than $175 complete >> (including >> >> >> PoE, >> >> >> antenna). >> >> Canopy seems to work well for many people... but I've >> never been one to follow the "norm". And I get to put $50 in my >> pocket >> on every install, and $1,000 for every AP we put up. ;) >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> Well that is a testimony to your quality of service for >> sure. >> Now, if you were using Canopy your customers would be >> even happier! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers >> >> >> I have Qwest DSL, CableOne, another WISP (doing "up >> to >> 4meg" for $29.95 >> with Canopy), and a licensed WiMax (2.5ghz) provider >> (doing "up to >> 2meg", mobile, for $29.95). I have a lot of >> competition... and yet we >> have no sales people, no real advertising campaign, and >> more installs >> than we can keep up with each month. >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >> You must not have competitors. I have both Qwest >> and Comcast giving away >> multi megabit starting at $15.95 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Travis Johnson >> To: WISPA General List >> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers >> >> >> I guess that's my point... why offer more bandwidth >> than you have to? >> Most people don't need more than 1meg, and that's our >> most popular >> package for $39.95 per month (total, no modem rental >> fee, etc.). Why give >> away the farm if you don't have to? :) >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> RickG wrote: >> Wow, with all that bandwidth, I'm surprised you dont >> offer higher speeds. >> >> Technically speaking, the download & upload price is >> the >> same. From a >> cost standpoint, I allocate the download & upload >> separately because I >> am "forced" to pay dearly ($1200/month) to AT&T for my >> dual T1's which >> are required for "decent" upload speeds. Right now, my >> traffic is >> split so all port 80 traffic flows though the 4Mbps x >> 2Mbps connection >> through Time Warner which runs over $500/month. This >> works fairly well >> for now since about half the traffic is web browsing. >> When I bought >> this WISP there was no management, monitoring or >> reporting. I took >> care of the management & monitoring and I'm working on >> the reporting. >> The best thing I've done is replace the StarOS firewall >> with Mikrotik >> and set up traffic priority. >> Whew! Lots of work. At any rate, I'm working on my >> upstream connection >> next. I really need to get the cost down. >> >> Thanks! -RickG >> >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Travis Johnson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL >> PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Rick, >> >> Yes, all of our packages are symmetrical speeds (same >> download and >> upload). >> So if they buy our 512k package, they get 512k down x >> 512k up all the >> time. >> They are not "dedicated" connections, but rather you >> get >> what you pay for >> connections. We still oversubscribe users on an AP, but >> only to the point >> where each AP is running around 60% capacity during >> peak >> times, thus >> leaving >> room for bursts, etc. We graph and monitor every single >> AP (over 200 of >> them) and every single user (bandwidth, packets, RSSI, >> etc.) so we always >> know what's happening on our network. >> >> We currently have three full OC-3 (155Mbps) dedicated >> connections to the >> backbone. On average, we pay $40/meg for bandwidth. Why >> is your upload >> price >> different than your download price? >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> RickG wrote: >> >> Travis, >> >> Nice work! Therefore, you are selling dedicated >> bandwidth to all of >> your customers. In other words, if all your customers >> run speed test >> at the same time they will get what their plan allows. >> If you dont >> mind, I have a few questions: >> Is the above scenario true for upload speed as well as >> download speed? >> What are you paying for your upstream connection? >> What type of upstream connection do you have? >> >> I'd like to be there and I keep hoping cheap bandwidth >> comes my way. >> When you are paying $150/meg for download and $400/meg >> for upload, the >> business model is tough. >> >> -RickG >> >> BTW: I'd take this offlist if you prefer but I think >> this is a problem >> that many us us small WISP's face. >> >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Travis Johnson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL >> PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Every customer can get the speed they are paying for >> ANY >> time they run a >> speed test. We offer packages from 512k to 2.5meg for >> residential >> customers >> and they always get what they pay for (download AND >> upload, which is the >> same for all of our packages). >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> RickG wrote: >> >> Travis, >> >> If I understand this correctly, you have at least 1Mbps >> or higher of >> bandwidth for every customer? >> >> -RickG >> >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Travis Johnson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL >> PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> We deliver what the customers pay for. If they purchase >> a 1Mbps package, >> they get 1Mbps 24x7 (with no monthly bit caps). >> Personally I have never >> liked the "up to" speed packages... it's like going to >> Walmart and >> buying milk. You can pay $3 for a full 1 gallon, or you >> can pay $2 for >> "up to" a gallon (without really knowing how much you >> are going to get, >> but it will be somewhere between nothing and a full >> gallon). >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Kurt Fankhauser wrote: >> >> >> Does anyone else here have customer/s that consume so >> much bandwidth that >> you have to throttle them down after say 5 minutes of >> downloading. And >> what >> do you tell them when they start complaining about the >> throttled down >> speed. >> (they don't know your throttling them though) >> >> >> >> Kurt Fankhauser >> WAVELINC >> P.O. Box 126 >> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >> 419-562-6405 >> www.wavelinc.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> -------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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