You pay per customer, but you get a wholesale rate. They love it because you aggregate a whole bunch of billing for them.
--C Robert West wrote: > How does DirectTV and the like get out of that red tape mess then? Do they > pay franchise fees? Or is beaming from space a bit different in the eyes of > the FCC? > > Just wondering. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of jp > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:43 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality > > I know they have business partners that handle the MDU / planned > community sort of things, and they definitely have the equipment to make > it work. > > However, if you want to transmit television over/under public > property/ROW such as public roads or off your private property, you are > a cable provider. You then have to be a registered cable company and > meet local franchise requirements (such as coverage requirements, > franchies fees, PEG channels), or an Open Video provider (as described > by the FCC) and be subject to the conditions of that type of business. > Something like HITS (headend in the sky) is often used for smaller cable > systems. I'm sure there are some others as well. > > I have reason to believe the sat companies will not provide the channels > or gear to you if you appear to be doing the TV content distribution > business outside of the law. > > We're setup as a DirecTV dealer in addition to our ISP business. We like > their TV technology ourselves, and we like helping people get away from > TimeWarner/Roadrunner. We also get a sales commision and are compensated > for the installs. We're not selling a ton yet, as it's a fairly complex > mix of options and we're still getting up to speed. > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:19:07AM -0400, Robert West wrote: > >> Never thought of that. Anyone else doing this? I'm not up to doing this >> yet but always planning ahead, maybe in 6 to 12 months. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Curtis Maurand >> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:44 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality >> >> >> Try talking to DirectTV or Dish Networks. They'll deal with you to >> > resell. > >> --C >> Robert West wrote: >> >>> Would the Free To Air stuff work at all? I have some customers who do >>> >> Free >> >>> To Air but I have yet to even look at one of their setups to see what >>> > type > >>> of content they are getting. But is Free To Air also Free to >>> >> Rebroadcast??! >> >>> I tried to deal with Time Warner as just being a reseller of their >>> > content > >>> but they just yawned. I wanted to setup a building to install the >>> individual digital boxes in for each customer ant Time Warner would just >>> install in that building as needed. Then stream the video channel to >>> > the > >>> customer. Not gonna fly with Time Warner. >>> >>> Anyone else out there doing TV over IP? How are you setting this up and >>> >> how >> >>> are you obtaining rights to rebroadcast the video content? Certainly >>> >> there >> >>> HAS to be a group that we can purchase content from. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:14 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality >>> >>> I've looked into doing traditional TV over IP and wireless networks... >>> >> You >> >>> can't obtain a license for traditional TV over wireless networks. >>> >>> I wouldn't mind coming up with a half assed list of places of good video >>> > > >>> content. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Clint Ricker" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:11 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality >>> >>> >>> >>>> I am all too aware of the weakness of wireless networks in regards to >>>> streaming of video. >>>> >>>> That said, I cannot see how over the top video is a bad thing for >>>> independent ISPs, even if wireless technology has to make some progress >>>> >> to >> >>>> handle it. It removes triple play as a competitive advantage for your >>>> competitors and hurts them a LOT more than it costs the independent >>>> > ISPs. > >>>> If anything, independent ISPs (especially wireline independent ISPs) >>>> should >>>> be advertising "Internet access, includes 10 million channels for FREE" >>>> > > >>>> and >>>> get people to shift the $1,500-$2,000 a year that they are spending on >>>> triple play packages over your way. >>>> >>>> -Clint Ricker >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:06 AM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> This is imminent. The questions is: whose network? -RickG >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Robert West >>>>> >> <[email protected]> >> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> One thing you can bank on, it WILL take hold. >>>>>> >>>>>> The need for more Bandwidth won't be stopped anytime soon, I believe. >>>>>> Eventually most if not all communications will run over the same >>>>>> network, >>>>>> which if you think about it, all the communications out there seem to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> touch >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> the internet at least in part. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> > On > >>>>>> Behalf Of Clint Ricker >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:21 AM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality >>>>>> >>>>>> For the mainstream ISPs (the big RBOCs and MSOs), their bandwidth >>>>>> > costs > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> are >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> very, very low and are a small fraction of their overall costs. >>>>>> However, >>>>>> that statement does ignore the costs of perpetually upgrading their >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> network >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> to handle larger volumes of bandwidth. From a cost perspective, that >>>>>> > > >>>>>> is >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> main motivation for the big players to shape traffic. However, even >>>>>> that >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> small compared to the potential loss of revenue if "over the top" >>>>>> > video > >>>>>> takes hold. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Clint >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's back.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,552503,00.html?test=latestnews >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am just waiting for them to say bitcaps are a no no. When you >>>>>>> > think > >>>>>>> about it with a bit cap you cannot really use the Internet to >>>>>>> completely replace the catv or dish service. Some consumers I am >>>>>>> > sure > >>>>>>> are going to say that's not fair and some clueless law makers will >>>>>>> likely believe them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have already heard some 'expert' IT people on blogs brag that >>>>>>> bandwidth costs ISP's virtually nothing and the only reason for >>>>>>> bitcaps is to prevent competing video services from taking market >>>>>>> share. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> >>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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