Not everyone uses 6Mbps all day long. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:52 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thats one way to utilize bandwidth shaping but how do you " guaranteed > minimum of 1.5Mbps, 4Mbps and > 6Mbps" at those low rates to every use and make money? Maybe I'm wrong but > the problem I see is that you will end up having unhappy subscribers when > their expectations are not met. Thats where the premium rates can come in. > I > find people all the time who would pay more for committed speeds if it can > be delivered. > > BTW: Cricket Communications, subsidiary of Leap Wireless has lost money > since its inception and continues to do so. Give me an example of an > non-subsidized "all you can eat service" company in a competitive market > that actually makes money (bottom line). > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Jayson Baker <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Ya know, we've looked at this many times over the past couple years, and > > even tested it for a bit. > > > > Fact is, people like unlimited, and not having to guess. I, myself, > being > > a > > fairly lite user of the Internet, would still always opt for an unlimited > > plan--even if I knew my bill may be lower on a pay-per-use plan. I have > > unlimited cell phone minutes, txt messages, etc. If I could pay for > > unlimited utilites, I'd certainly do that too! > > > > We've got the infrastructure in place for a pay-per-use, and could > activate > > it at anytime. We tried selling it about a year ago, and people just > > didn't > > understand the concept. People aren't used to it--most people got online > > when Internet was $19.95/mo for dialup (or, $22.95 for AOL!), and don't > > remember the 10 for $10 dial-up packages. Nobody knows what ISDN with > 300 > > hours is. > > > > We currently offer 12Mbps service for $24.95/mo. This makes us the > fastest > > in the area, and the cheapest. We have local sales, support and > > installations. We decided the way to win is to shape traffic--we offer > > three 12Mbps packages; one with a guaranteed minimum of 1.5Mbps, 4Mbps > and > > 6Mbps. If you do nothing than browse, share pictures, etc. (i.e. "normal > > use") you'll always see the 12Mbps. But once you fire up a torrent or > > Netflix, you only get that speed for 10 minutes--after that, you get your > > guaranteed minimum. Prices double from 1.5 to 4, and double again going > to > > 6Mbps. We have never had a complaint about speed or price with this > > structure. > > > > I'm hoping that the "big guys" do go to pay-per-use plans. Just one more > > way we can advertise and win against them. "Tired of counting your bits > > and > > bytes? We're unlimited" Look at Cricket wireless--they've just exploded > > with customers on their unlimited-everything service. > > > > Just my 2 cents > > > > Jayson > > > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The cellular guys don't charge by the minute... I have an unlimited > plan > > > on my cell phone. I can also get unlimited text and internet access for > > > $9.95/mo extra. > > > > > > People don't want to guess what their internet bills are going to be > from > > > month to month. Would you want that at your own home? > > > > > > Travis > > > Microserv > > > > > > > > > Gary Garrett wrote: > > > > > > You sound like the cell phone company. > > > I am convinced the big failure in my business model is I charge by the > > > month while the cellular guys charge by the minute. > > > > > > > > > Travis Johnson wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > You are talking about having to add additional resources (radius, etc.) > > > to track it. Then you have to bill it. Then you get to deal with the > > > phone calls from users that say "My computer wasn't even turned on > > > during those times. Remove the charge or I will go elsewhere." So, > even > > > that one extra phone call costs you money (because you have to think > > > about scaling). Imagine if you have 100x the number of customers you > > > have now... does the same solution work? Probably not. > > > > > > The easier solution would be to call that customer and get them to > > > upgrade to the next plan up (which would provide higher speed as well). > > > This works very well for us... and then I have that guaranteed extra > > > income each month, even if they don't use it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] > > > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > WISPA Wants You! 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