CPEs are limited on APs. APs are limited in spectrum. On 5/27/10, finkle dinkle <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, I'm not saying I want a single AP, just trying to determine > which route with UBNT products would support the most per client > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote: >> I was thinking the same thing... I want to be business class and go the >> cheap-o route. By a Yugo, get Yugo quality...especially if you think 50 >> business customers on a single ap is going to work well in an urban area >> with UBNT. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> [email protected] >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Jerry Richardson >> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:12 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >> >> Your Moto bias will cost you. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of finkle dinkle >> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:44 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >> >> Yea, I will want to specialize only in businesses truthfully, when I say >> that I will support residential, they're going to pay business rates and I >> will hand pick the people if they call me.. I dont want headaches >> >> Unfortunately I do not knowingly buy Motorola brand products for personal >> reasons. >> >> I do want to stick to ubnt brand products but I dont know exactly how many >> NanoBridge M5's I could connect to a single one, so I dont want to have to >> end up with the entire roof covered with antenna's. >> >> The 50mbit I could offer internally with ethernet or vdsl would be great >> if it was symmetrical (vdsl), I want to be able to do this, just trying to >> figure out how much I'd sell 50/50. >> >> Thanks >> >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Jerry Richardson >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Thought BPL was dead >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:28 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>> >>> Or BPL. >>> >>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Jeremie Chism <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I was thinking the same thing. Use a mini dslam on the free pairs to >>>> get Internet in the rooms. Ptp to the building and dsl to the customer. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 27, 2010, at 12:11 PM, "Robert West" <robert.w...@just- >>>> micro.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Then you could provide the access via dsl in the building. That >>>>> would be the logical route to go I think. >>>>> >>>>> -Richard >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of finkle dinkle >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:08 PM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>>>> >>>>> Justin, appreciate your suggestion. I've been looking around and >>>>> will continue to. >>>>> >>>>> Josh, the gbit ptp will be done through fiber to the building, then >>>>> whoever in the building wants service.. will pay set up to get set >>>>> up with ethernet or fiber to my office. >>>>> >>>>> I know I could get enough business inside the building to cover half >>>>> the cost of everything because I'm pretty sure there is a company >>>>> here with quite a few T1's, overpaying and not getting what they >>>>> deserve. >>>>> I've always been a proponent of maxing stuff out so I will be a >>>>> great benefit to the tenants. >>>>> >>>>> So if I'm able to set something up externally, I may be able to >>>>> actually break even and profit some, I actually know I could profit >>>>> but I want this to be more of a service to the people who are unable >>>>> to get anything decent out here. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Nice introduction to the WISPA community. Make fun of the name. >>>>>> I even >>>>>> recommended this person check out WISPA from the Ubiquity forums. >>>>> Anyhow, >>>>>> welcome. I would suggest reading through the archives for some >>>>>> good discussions on things. >>>>>> >>>>>> Justin >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Justin Wilson <[email protected]> >>>>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog >>>>>> Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Jack Unger <[email protected]> >>>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:28:35 -0700 >>>>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>>>>> >>>>>> My first recommendation would be to legally change your name from >>>>>> Finkle Dinkle to something that sounds a little more business-like. >>>>>> I'd recommend something like "Joe Smith" or "Bob Jones". >>>>>> >>>>>> finkle dinkle wrote: >>>>>>> So, I've got space in a building in So. Cal with a lot of >>>>>>> neighbors with crappy connections. In the beginning, I wanted to >>>>>>> bring in a gig PTP from the datacenter 12 miles away... I'm not a >>>>>>> salesman, I think with the bandwidth I have available at the DC + >>>>>>> the of the PTP, I could've made everyone in the building happy, at >>>>>>> least 20 tenants if I could convince them.. doubt I could. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, I have potential access to the roof, I'd have to ask. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there any laws if I want to sell service ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I want to provide service to lets just say 50 clients (not in >>>>>>> the building but through wireless), are there devices that dont >>>>>>> have to rely on LOS ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm just trying to understand if this all went along well, how >>>>>>> many devices would I need to mount up on the roof to support 20-50 >>>>>>> clients externally with the devices and which devices.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm looking to sell the bandwidth for a relatively low price, >>>>>>> undercut wimax and not strictly looking for profit but looking to >>>>>>> be the point guy for other tech operations for these potential >>>>>>> clients.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, to the people who have good access to bandwidth or even not.. >>>>>>> how much are you looking at from all your cost to what you >>>>>>> actually charge (not including administrative) but lets assume >>>>>>> your bandwidth costs are 8k/month with the point to point to the >>>>>>> datacenter + 1000mbit commit. I know I could do better but what >>>>>>> are we looking at here, if the total cost to get the bandwidth, >>>>>>> less the equipment to my office building at 8 bux a meg, how much >>>>>>> should I be selling it ? >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> recommendations ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do not want to be a company like towerstream where I sell 8 megs >>>>>>> for 800/MRC, i'm looking to charge more like 25 bux per meg... Is >>>>>>> my model right or wrong ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> --- >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -- >>>>> ---- >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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