if you are not going with moto, then the ubiquity airmax stuff would be as good a choice as any. you might get 20 business class subs per ap and you should be able to get 3 120deg sectors on the roof. you will run into self interference problems at around 20 subs per AP. unfortunately you will already be committed to the ubiquity and there is no going back. gotta rip it all out and rebuild with canopy or add more AP's in another band.
compare that to 50+ subs per canopy AP and none of the self interference problems inherent in non-sync'd gear. ~<Sent mobile>~ On May 27, 2010, at 5:53 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Rocket w/matching sector > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > -----Original Message----- > From: finkle dinkle <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:51:37 > To: WISPA General List<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp > > Well, I'm not saying I want a single AP, just trying to determine > which route with UBNT products would support the most per client > > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> > wrote: >> I was thinking the same thing... I want to be business class and go >> the cheap-o route. By a Yugo, get Yugo quality...especially if you >> think 50 business customers on a single ap is going to work well in >> an urban area with UBNT. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> [email protected] >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson >> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:12 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >> >> Your Moto bias will cost you. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of finkle dinkle >> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:44 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >> >> Yea, I will want to specialize only in businesses truthfully, when >> I say that I will support residential, they're going to pay >> business rates and I will hand pick the people if they call me.. I >> dont want headaches >> >> Unfortunately I do not knowingly buy Motorola brand products for >> personal reasons. >> >> I do want to stick to ubnt brand products but I dont know exactly >> how many NanoBridge M5's I could connect to a single one, so I dont >> want to have to end up with the entire roof covered with antenna's. >> >> The 50mbit I could offer internally with ethernet or vdsl would be >> great if it was symmetrical (vdsl), I want to be able to do this, >> just trying to figure out how much I'd sell 50/50. >> >> Thanks >> >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Jerry Richardson <[email protected] >> > wrote: >>> Thought BPL was dead >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:28 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>> >>> Or BPL. >>> >>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Jeremie Chism <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> I was thinking the same thing. Use a mini dslam on the free pairs >>>> to >>>> get Internet in the rooms. Ptp to the building and dsl to the >>>> customer. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 27, 2010, at 12:11 PM, "Robert West" <robert.w...@just- >>>> micro.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Then you could provide the access via dsl in the building. That >>>>> would be the logical route to go I think. >>>>> >>>>> -Richard >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- >>>>> [email protected]] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of finkle dinkle >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:08 PM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>>>> >>>>> Justin, appreciate your suggestion. I've been looking around and >>>>> will continue to. >>>>> >>>>> Josh, the gbit ptp will be done through fiber to the building, >>>>> then >>>>> whoever in the building wants service.. will pay set up to get set >>>>> up with ethernet or fiber to my office. >>>>> >>>>> I know I could get enough business inside the building to cover >>>>> half >>>>> the cost of everything because I'm pretty sure there is a company >>>>> here with quite a few T1's, overpaying and not getting what they >>>>> deserve. >>>>> I've always been a proponent of maxing stuff out so I will be a >>>>> great benefit to the tenants. >>>>> >>>>> So if I'm able to set something up externally, I may be able to >>>>> actually break even and profit some, I actually know I could >>>>> profit >>>>> but I want this to be more of a service to the people who are >>>>> unable >>>>> to get anything decent out here. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Nice introduction to the WISPA community. Make fun of the name. >>>>>> I even >>>>>> recommended this person check out WISPA from the Ubiquity forums. >>>>> Anyhow, >>>>>> welcome. I would suggest reading through the archives for some >>>>>> good discussions on things. >>>>>> >>>>>> Justin >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Justin Wilson <[email protected]> >>>>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog >>>>>> Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Jack Unger <[email protected]> >>>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:28:35 -0700 >>>>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>>>>> >>>>>> My first recommendation would be to legally change your name from >>>>>> Finkle Dinkle to something that sounds a little more business- >>>>>> like. >>>>>> I'd recommend something like "Joe Smith" or "Bob Jones". >>>>>> >>>>>> finkle dinkle wrote: >>>>>>> So, I've got space in a building in So. Cal with a lot of >>>>>>> neighbors with crappy connections. In the beginning, I wanted to >>>>>>> bring in a gig PTP from the datacenter 12 miles away... I'm >>>>>>> not a >>>>>>> salesman, I think with the bandwidth I have available at the >>>>>>> DC + >>>>>>> the of the PTP, I could've made everyone in the building >>>>>>> happy, at >>>>>>> least 20 tenants if I could convince them.. doubt I could. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, I have potential access to the roof, I'd have to ask. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there any laws if I want to sell service ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I want to provide service to lets just say 50 clients (not in >>>>>>> the building but through wireless), are there devices that dont >>>>>>> have to rely on LOS ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm just trying to understand if this all went along well, how >>>>>>> many devices would I need to mount up on the roof to support >>>>>>> 20-50 >>>>>>> clients externally with the devices and which devices.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm looking to sell the bandwidth for a relatively low price, >>>>>>> undercut wimax and not strictly looking for profit but looking >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> be the point guy for other tech operations for these potential >>>>>>> clients.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, to the people who have good access to bandwidth or even >>>>>>> not.. >>>>>>> how much are you looking at from all your cost to what you >>>>>>> actually charge (not including administrative) but lets assume >>>>>>> your bandwidth costs are 8k/month with the point to point to the >>>>>>> datacenter + 1000mbit commit. 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