I don't know about 50 - it totally depends on your customers' bandwidth rates.
On 5/27/10, Jerry Richardson <[email protected]> wrote: > if you are not going with moto, then the ubiquity airmax stuff would > be as good a choice as any. you might get 20 business class subs per > ap and you should be able to get 3 120deg sectors on the roof. you > will run into self interference problems at around 20 subs per AP. > unfortunately you will already be committed to the ubiquity and there > is no going back. gotta rip it all out and rebuild with canopy or add > more AP's in another band. > > compare that to 50+ subs per canopy AP and none of the self > interference problems inherent in non-sync'd gear. > > ~<Sent mobile>~ > > On May 27, 2010, at 5:53 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Rocket w/matching sector >> Sent from my BlackBerry® >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: finkle dinkle <[email protected]> >> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:51:37 >> To: WISPA General List<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >> >> Well, I'm not saying I want a single AP, just trying to determine >> which route with UBNT products would support the most per client >> >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I was thinking the same thing... I want to be business class and go >>> the cheap-o route. By a Yugo, get Yugo quality...especially if you >>> think 50 business customers on a single ap is going to work well in >>> an urban area with UBNT. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck Hogg >>> Shelby Broadband >>> 502-722-9292 >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson >>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:12 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>> >>> Your Moto bias will cost you. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of finkle dinkle >>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:44 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>> >>> Yea, I will want to specialize only in businesses truthfully, when >>> I say that I will support residential, they're going to pay >>> business rates and I will hand pick the people if they call me.. I >>> dont want headaches >>> >>> Unfortunately I do not knowingly buy Motorola brand products for >>> personal reasons. >>> >>> I do want to stick to ubnt brand products but I dont know exactly >>> how many NanoBridge M5's I could connect to a single one, so I dont >>> want to have to end up with the entire roof covered with antenna's. >>> >>> The 50mbit I could offer internally with ethernet or vdsl would be >>> great if it was symmetrical (vdsl), I want to be able to do this, >>> just trying to figure out how much I'd sell 50/50. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Jerry Richardson >>> <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>>> Thought BPL was dead >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> On Behalf Of RickG >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 2:28 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>>> >>>> Or BPL. >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Jeremie Chism <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> I was thinking the same thing. Use a mini dslam on the free pairs >>>>> to >>>>> get Internet in the rooms. Ptp to the building and dsl to the >>>>> customer. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 27, 2010, at 12:11 PM, "Robert West" <robert.w...@just- >>>>> micro.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Then you could provide the access via dsl in the building. That >>>>>> would be the logical route to go I think. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Richard >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:wireless- >>>>>> [email protected]] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of finkle dinkle >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:08 PM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>>>>> >>>>>> Justin, appreciate your suggestion. I've been looking around and >>>>>> will continue to. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh, the gbit ptp will be done through fiber to the building, >>>>>> then >>>>>> whoever in the building wants service.. will pay set up to get set >>>>>> up with ethernet or fiber to my office. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know I could get enough business inside the building to cover >>>>>> half >>>>>> the cost of everything because I'm pretty sure there is a company >>>>>> here with quite a few T1's, overpaying and not getting what they >>>>>> deserve. >>>>>> I've always been a proponent of maxing stuff out so I will be a >>>>>> great benefit to the tenants. >>>>>> >>>>>> So if I'm able to set something up externally, I may be able to >>>>>> actually break even and profit some, I actually know I could >>>>>> profit >>>>>> but I want this to be more of a service to the people who are >>>>>> unable >>>>>> to get anything decent out here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Nice introduction to the WISPA community. Make fun of the name. >>>>>>> I even >>>>>>> recommended this person check out WISPA from the Ubiquity forums. >>>>>> Anyhow, >>>>>>> welcome. I would suggest reading through the archives for some >>>>>>> good discussions on things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Justin >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Justin Wilson <[email protected]> >>>>>>> http://www.mtin.net/blog >>>>>>> Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Jack Unger <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:28:35 -0700 >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Becoming a Wisp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My first recommendation would be to legally change your name from >>>>>>> Finkle Dinkle to something that sounds a little more business- >>>>>>> like. >>>>>>> I'd recommend something like "Joe Smith" or "Bob Jones". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> finkle dinkle wrote: >>>>>>>> So, I've got space in a building in So. Cal with a lot of >>>>>>>> neighbors with crappy connections. In the beginning, I wanted to >>>>>>>> bring in a gig PTP from the datacenter 12 miles away... I'm >>>>>>>> not a >>>>>>>> salesman, I think with the bandwidth I have available at the >>>>>>>> DC + >>>>>>>> the of the PTP, I could've made everyone in the building >>>>>>>> happy, at >>>>>>>> least 20 tenants if I could convince them.. doubt I could. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyway, I have potential access to the roof, I'd have to ask. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are there any laws if I want to sell service ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I want to provide service to lets just say 50 clients (not in >>>>>>>> the building but through wireless), are there devices that dont >>>>>>>> have to rely on LOS ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm just trying to understand if this all went along well, how >>>>>>>> many devices would I need to mount up on the roof to support >>>>>>>> 20-50 >>>>>>>> clients externally with the devices and which devices.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm looking to sell the bandwidth for a relatively low price, >>>>>>>> undercut wimax and not strictly looking for profit but looking >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> be the point guy for other tech operations for these potential >>>>>>>> clients.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, to the people who have good access to bandwidth or even >>>>>>>> not.. >>>>>>>> how much are you looking at from all your cost to what you >>>>>>>> actually charge (not including administrative) but lets assume >>>>>>>> your bandwidth costs are 8k/month with the point to point to the >>>>>>>> datacenter + 1000mbit commit. I know I could do better but what >>>>>>>> are we looking at here, if the total cost to get the bandwidth, >>>>>>>> less the equipment to my office building at 8 bux a meg, how >>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>> should I be selling it ? >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> recommendations ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do not want to be a company like towerstream where I sell 8 >>>>>>>> megs >>>>>>>> for 800/MRC, i'm looking to charge more like 25 bux per meg... >>>>>>>> Is >>>>>>>> my model right or wrong ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> --- >>>>>> --- >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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