Fair enough. On Jan 9, 2013, at 19:10, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> OK but you're complaining MT requires you prove you own the software while > Ubnt doesn't. That's because MT can be stolen and Ubnt can not. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Jan 9, 2013 6:45 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com> wrote: >> No. Nor do I have Cisco iOS running on my own hardware. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jan 9, 2013, at 18:35, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>> You have AirOS or that router software on your own x86 hardware? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Jan 9, 2013 6:30 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com> wrote: >>>> Oh. It's that license thing again. Another reason I don't like MikroTik. >>>> With Uniquiti there are no license levels. You get what you purchased. >>>> >>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 18:11, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Because a bunch of people run cracked copies... >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 9, 2013 6:03 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com> wrote: >>>>>> supp...@mikrotik.com? Yes. You usually get a reply there. Asking you to >>>>>> supply your serial number. As if I'd ask for support for a product I >>>>>> don't own. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 17:15, Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:04:18PM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: >>>>>> >> I've been using both MT and UBNT for many many years and I plan to >>>>>> >> use them both for many years. MT support has been almost completely >>>>>> >> absent, while UBNT typically answers fairly quickly. That said, >>>>>> >> usually when I notice a problem with my MT product, it's already been >>>>>> >> fixed in a newer release. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > MT support in their forum is hit and miss. I get timely responses >>>>>> > from supp...@mikrotik.com. I don't understand the people who >>>>>> > complain on the forums that MT support is horrible and refuse to >>>>>> > e-mail supp...@mikrotik.com. I am not saying that Mike is one of >>>>>> > those guys. I don't know if his statement is based on experience >>>>>> > with supp...@mikrotik.com or not. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > The east europe/western asia folks just seem to have a bit of a >>>>>> > different take on things than we in North America do. I think >>>>>> > that's just due to the culture and language differences. They tend >>>>>> > to come off as being a bit brusk to us. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I don't trust any newly shipping product in a production environment. >>>>>> > They go into designated test environments. The Edge Router may be >>>>>> > the best thing since sliced bread. However, the devices I've used >>>>>> > the Quagga stack on have let me down more than the MikroTik routing >>>>>> > stack. Of course, most of those Quagga devices were StarOS which >>>>>> > had its own problems. Thankfully, we have completed our 100% StarOS >>>>>> > to 100% UBNT AP/backhaul radios with MikroTik routers transition. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > When I get an Edge Router, I will play with it on the desk. Then >>>>>> > it will be put a nearby but small tower site. If it behaves, I'll >>>>>> > put one on a non-leaf node tower. I'm not in a hurry to get my >>>>>> > first EdgeRouter. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Until then, I really like my 493Gs running 5.21. We have not run >>>>>> > any production MikroTik wireless gear. We just haven't. We picked >>>>>> > up some Ubiquiti gear first. No other reason. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have 6.0rc6 on the MikroTik in the house. It has wireless. It >>>>>> > works for my personal devices. I wouldn't consider using RouterOS >>>>>> > 6 on customer use gear, yet. Not even when they are calling it the >>>>>> > 6th release candidate. It's not a release candidate if you are >>>>>> > still adding new features. If you are still adding new features, >>>>>> > it is an alpha release... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have a couple of RB2011UAS units on the bench. They aren't in >>>>>> > the field for the same reason I would not rush to put the EdgeRouter >>>>>> > in the field. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > UBNT and MikroTik both have software QA issues. At this price >>>>>> > point, we get to be the alpha/beta testers. C'est la vie. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix >>>>>> > SysAdmin >>>>>> > lamb...@lambertfam.org >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > Wireless mailing list >>>>>> > Wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wireless mailing list >>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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