Donald: My poem is insight and nothing else. Throw away all your notions and you will understand the heart of the poem. And if you don't like it just ignore it. However, by the way you answer it seems as you discriminate between the self and the no-self. However, The Diamond Sutra and the Prajnaparamitra sutras are sutras for life. The most one meditates on them the richest became the insights they to one.
SAMSARA: Every time that we are truly mindful, we are not any longer into samsara. Every time we loose our mindfulness we get into samsara. A kind bow from Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, donald hwong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Based on what I have learned about Diamond Sutra, > > The poem by Mayka is true only in "formlessness", not in "form", not in words, only in "realform". > > It is more than a concept. It can be witnessed when the practitioner reaches a certain level. And it is not samsara. > > _/\_ > JMJM > > Phillip Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very nice poem. It does reflect a message of Zen appropriately. Your poem has been a blessing to me. Thank you for it. > However, I am not sure that Bill was necessarily making a comment about your poem. Remember, as the Diamond Sutra indicates, that there are no things. There is no Interbeing, there is no mindfulness, there is no enlightenment or Buddha nature. These are merely concepts that serve a purpose, like the finger pointing to the moon, these words are instruments that help us to see into true reality. This is the message of the Diamond sutra as well. So if Bill takes a more self focused view of reality, is that necessarily any different from your focus on interbeing? > > Happiness to You Mayka, > Allen > > Mayka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More English errors corrected: > > -- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Mayka" <flordeloto@> wrote: > > > > > > Bill; > > > > I Thank you for your feedback, but in this case I do not accept > your > > correction as it does not correspond to the insight of > > the Diamond Sutra. Zen poetry can not be understood by intelectual > but > > through mindfulness, concentration and insight. My poem tries to > > transmit in a very basic way, the truth about interbeing while yours > > keeps on the individual self. However, perhaps there is an English > > error and it should be reading: > > > > I am you > > > > You are me > > > > we are One > > > > Mayka > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Mayka" <flordeloto@> wrote: > > > > > > I am you > > > You is me > > > We are One > > > Mayka > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/