On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:09:28 -0800, mike brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

> Haha! And Chairman Mao would crack your nutsack with that bit of  
> selective propoganda. (read what followed after I wrote that sentence)...
> Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                                
> From: "mike brown" <Autumn cries for spring..." is completely at odds  
> with
>  the spirit of zen >>
> Holy shit, a poetry critic? Bankei would kick your ass with a bamboo bat  
> if
>  he were still around and was reading this and had bus fare to your home.

Thanks Al, I think you're catching on...there hides a bit of dilletante  
and Mike probably was totally ignorant of the history of Haiku and  
Tanka... that
in Imperial Court Japan, a noble might seek the affection or liason with a  
placed lady, and offer her via some lower ranking messenger, the wrapped  
as the subtle, often very cloaked suggestive message...

Her reply was the Tanka couplet...and it could be some sentimental and  
"agreement" to the suggested get together, or it could be a rather wise and
even cutting rebuke whereby both the Lady and the Nobleman could  
maintain their dignity, expecially if the exchanged poetry ever got  
intercepted by
family members or other jealous parties.  As the form evolved for the sake  
of court
expression and demonstration it became a much more abstract, purely poetic  
but always kept elements of the surprise twist, inversion of expectation  
or logic,
the purely Japanese style of "ah-hah!" pronounced "Atari!" btw...
in any event, there have never been formal absolute rules to Haiku or  
aside from the traditional 5,7,5, and 7,7 meter...and even this has been  
cleverly and
knowingly altered by very skilled masters in all centuries since the Meiji  

In any event...I am a published and award recognized poet of Haiku, not  
that I suggest that any
of my 30 second responses here are of that depth or breadth...

But to me, all other "sentiment" aside, the critique seems ignoble and  
misplaced, as
it casts a shadow on what was intended as a peaceful and harmonious  

Ah, that Yang that cannot help but follow that Ying!

I am away for a month or so...must get a new business up and running...
Hopefully will catch breath and time and check in again by Spring...



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