I agree...Bill!
--- In [email protected], "v" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> mike brown wrote:without something tangible like zazen practice to
> underpin their experience they might miss the meaning of what just
> happened to them and put it down to something mystical/imaginative/a
> gift from God etc.>
>
> I think that lots of other religions have similar states of
> enlightenment or divine illumination. In sports, there is "In the
> Zone" which is commonly referred to as when people who are
> participating in sports perform at their highest personal levels due
> to a unity of mental and physical concentration.
>
> I think that satori is a lot more common than people think, and it is
> experienced by many people at many different activities that have
> nothing to do with zazen.
>
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