Ha! Ha!  Actually, my money is on Bill. I think JM would give him a 
good race, but I'm not sure the masses are ready to accept that the 
Heart Chan that he follows is True Zen or not. I think his Chan is 
inter-woven with Buddhism, and I've heard that True Zen should stand 
alone. What do you think?

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see you are practicing your acceptance speech already! :-)
> Edgar


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