Mike -

A toast to the things I cannot change!



On 10/15/08, mike brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Mayka,
>
> >My knowledge and insight about
> >consciousness is rather limited. And therefore open to
> >intelectualization and what is the worst speculation. Being aware of
> >the harm that intelectualization and speculation can cause I'd rather
> >keep quiet till real insight cames out.
>
> Well said. I really do enjoy reading the intellectual and metaphysical
> postings here, but at the end of the day, that is all they really are -
> headcandy for the intellect. That's why I guess I would call myself a Zen
> Buddhist. The danger of trying to extract zen from Zen Buddhism can lead to
> the charge that zen is nothing more than an "intellectual exercise" ala
> JMJM. IMHO an understanding of 'emptiness' without following the Eight
> Precepts won't  lead to a self-transformation as deep as following them. I
> don't remember who said it, but zen without Zen Buddhism is like an
> alcoholic going to an AA meeting in the morning and a cocktail lounge in the
> evening.
>
> Mike.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mayka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 14:47:58
> Subject: [Zen] Re: TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness. Part
> 4, Sense Consciousness
>
>  Hi Mike;
>
> Which of the verses would like a comment?. These last three or
> previous ones?. If you're refering to these last three verses then
> in order to understand them one needs first to understand all
> previous ones. Verses are all linked like an unbreakable chain and at
> the same time each verse contains also all the rest. Amazing art of
> writing, isn't it?.
>
> However, I'm not making comments at the moment for several reasons;
> First; it would create intelectual distraction over the readers.
> Second; Although I had this dharma directly transmitted during a long
> retreat by Venerable Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. I feel no much
> confidence yet on the subject.
>
> The Nature of Consciousness is a most fascinating subject to discuss
> about in a dharma group. Of course providing that the ones who take
> part in such a complex discussion are people with a real realizacion
> within themselves of the subject discussed and not just vanity and
> ego.
>
> Thanks anyway for your interest.
> Mayka
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com <Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, mike
> brown <uerusuboyo@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mayka,
> >
> > Could you give us a commentary on what those verses mean to you?
> Thanks.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Mayka <flordeloto@ ...>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com <Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, 15 October, 2008 13:02:22
> > Subject: [Zen] TNH - Fifty Verses of the Nature of Consciousness.
> Part 4, Sense Consciousness
> >
> >
> > Part 4, Sense Consciousness
> >
> > Twenty-Eight
> >
> > Based on mind consciousness.
> > The five sense consciousness
> > separately or together with mind consciousness,
> > manifest like waves on water.
> >
> > Twenty-Nine
> >
> > The field of perception is things in themselves.
> > Their mode of perception is direct.
> > Their nature can be wholesome, unwholesome or neutral.
> > They operate on the sense organs and the sensation center of the
> > brain.
> >
> > Thirty
> >
> > They arise with the
> > universal, particular and wholesome,
> > the basic and secondary unwholesome,
> > and the indeterminate mental formations.
> >
>
>
> 
>

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