i'm sorry, but I don't even believe that is correct, unless you emphasize the word *can*.
As well, by bringing in "terrorists and child-molesters," you are trying to indeed play on associations about *some* religious people. You are making assertions and insinuations and then pleading ignorance when someone makes those assertions. And a lot of those atheists who have "seen the light" are from restrictive religious backgrounds and essentially have become mirror images of their previous beliefs, merely moving their intolerance and ignorance towards religion. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown <uerusub...@...> wrote: > > DP, > > Just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get you, huh. > Let me spell it out for you one more time. To paraphrase Kristy -Â Â she said > that > atheistsÂ are ignorantÂ of faith and so don't understand the religious > perspective. I pointed out that 1) lots of atheists were once upon a time > believers who have now 'seen the light' and so do have such experience but > rejected it. 2) I may beÂ ignorant ofÂ the beliefs of other groupsÂ but still > can > deduce that they are harmful. NOT that religious folks are the same as > neo-nazis > but the harm that can be DONE is the same. Clear? > > MikeÂ Â > > > > > ________________________________ > From: DP <wookielife...@...> > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tue, 5 October, 2010 1:03:36 > Subject: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church. > > Â > My god, that is disingenuous... > > Kristy specifically said that the people who are arguing probably don't have > an > experience of faith and that this means I can't explain it to them. > > You essentially said "I don't have to be a Neo-Nazi to understand that it's > bad." > > > It doesn't take a paranoid person to see a comparison being made. > You are using your own personal definition of religion to attack. This is not > my > experience of religion, and it never will be. > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote: > > > > DP, > > Â > > I wrote: "Moreover, I am ignorant of what it is to be a neo-nazis, but have > > no > > > trouble rejecting their beliefs as not just harmful, but wrong." > > > > You wrote: "You were essentially implying that religious belief was no > >different > > > > from being a "neo-nazi." I'm sorry, but I do find that offensive." > > Â > > That wasn't my intention in the above sentence. I could just as easily have > >said > > > > I am ignorant of being a racist/Republican/terrorist/bigot/child-molester > > etc > >to > > > > make the point. If you see the connection with those and religion, well... > > Â > > MikeÂ Â > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/