Hi Mike and Everyone! If everytime one has a dissapointment in any established religious institution whether that dissapointment was in Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Zen Buddhist, etc, etc institutions: and afterwards acts as a destructor towards the institution from which dissapointment took place, then it doesn't sound a very wise way of doing towards oneself. I certainly include myself in this unwise way of doing as I've recently experienced a great dissapointment in the TNH institutions which lead me to criticism of them. Though never as irrespetuos or destructive as many atheists show themselves ugly behaviour in front of Christianity. This harmful way of doing doesn't affect the instituions established but just to the ones who carries away such violent shows. When I look deeply into myself, I realice that it was me all the way alone who built up a pedestal to that institution. It was me who caused herself the dissapointment for building a pedestal of "holiness, peace....to the institution". They weren't the ones!!!. Having seeing this within myself I am now grateful having found that institution from which I was introduced in the walk of zen buddhism. I was ever dissapointed in any Christian institutions because I never built up a pedestal to the instituion!. And so my experience was always healthy and positive. It was positive because I never put that instituion in a pedestal. I saw it for what it was. And so I could get all the benefit from it and never the dissapointment and the anger and frustation that comes with it. Mayka
--- On Sun, 3/10/10, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: From: mike brown <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church. To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 11:33 Kristy, You wrote: "If you have faith, there is a whole sphere they are ignorant about." However, this isn't really the whole story. Many atheists were once believers who have seen thru 'faith' and have rejected it for what it is. Moreover, I am ignorant of what it is to be a neo-nazis, but have no trouble rejecting their beliefs as not just harmful, but wrong. Mike
