Ed,

I'll respond only to my comment which was in support of one of Chris'
comments (not all of them).  His comment and my response was:

[Chris] I was arguing that reality cannot be divided into two distinct
things, people and nature...
[Bill!] I'll second that!

I support Chris' statement because of two reasons - one logical and one
alogical*:

Logically nature and people are not two different things.  People are a
subset of nature, as is everything else.  To separate people from nature is
setting up a perspective that people are in competition with or worse yet
are in opposition to nature.  A perspective such as this (as is the
perspective of many environmentalists and all conservationists) is not an
effective approach to deal with environmental issues.

Alogically* (from a zen perspective) it is just another dualistic concept.
It separates the One into Many: nature/people, self/other, good/bad,
up/down.

...Bill!

*alogical: WITHOUT logic, not bound by logic, not able to be measured by
logic [I made up this word].  Contrast with 'illogical' which means NOT
logical or the OPPOSITE of logical, which is not the meaning I want to
convey since NOT itself is a logical operator.

 

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