You are saying babies are good zen practitioners. As Jodi said, dogs are as 

--- On Thu, 25/11/10, ChrisAustinLane <> wrote:

From: ChrisAustinLane <>
Subject: Re: [Zen] New Member
To: "" <>
Date: Thursday, 25 November, 2010, 11:11 PM


Babies do not split life into self and other.

Also they do not get distracted by abstract worries. They are fully present in 
the moment. They are not much concerned with stuff outside of their own 
internal needs, but that is appropriate. 

Chris Austin-Lane
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On Nov 24, 2010, at 17:33, "ED" <> wrote:

The way in which babies normally and naturally behave is to be obsessed with 
'I/me/mine' (it's ego), with no regard whatsoever for the needs of its mother 
or anyone else - and without which attitude it would not survive.
In short, if babies had no egos, the only babies who survived for more than a 
few days would be 'buddhas' - and the population of human buddhas on this earth 
would be nil.
--- In, "Lana M. Gibbons" <lana.m.gibb...@...> wrote:
> No, Thank You. I already have much of the infant's mentality, the lack of
> duality, the awareness, the "no-mind" - to discard all of what I have
> "learned" so far would be to discard my true self.
> The typical five year old has many concepts and ideas, they are possessive,
> materialistic, extreme in their sense of duality, some even expect others to
> serve them - that is nothing I strive towards being.
> If all children naturally developed as Buddhas, there would be no need for
> Buddhism to exist.
> -Lana

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