Rewrisk,
Perhaps instead of writing "I'm sure you will Bill as I will continue to
hope" you would have written 'I'm sure you will Bill but I will continue
to hope" my reading ability would have been more acceptable to you.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], "rewrisk" <rewrisk@...>
wrote:
>
> Learn to read man
>
> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" BillSmart@ wrote:
> >
> > Rewrisk,
> >
> > I'm disappointed to learn that you hope I will continue to
disappoint you. So I guess your hopes have already at least partially
been realized.
> >
> > I like being likened to ambiguity. That means I'm not fixed or set
in my ways. I'm flexible. I wax and wane, ebb and flow with the Tao.
> >
> > But I am sometimes disappointed...
> >
> > ...Bill!
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "rewrisk" <rewrisk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm sure you will Bill as I will continue to hope.
> > >
> > > Bill?
> > > You are the ambiguity!
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rewrisk,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to disappoint you, but I call them as I see them.
> > > >
> > > > Unless you write more clearly or take the time to explain how
you are using ambiguous terms I can't guarantee I won't disappoint you
again.
> > > >
> > > > But I'll keep trying...Bill!
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "rewrisk" <rewrisk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Your the only one here who seems to have trouble with meaning
and words Bill. Honestly mate? I think I am talking to a mule.
> > > > > As for interpreting it is misinterpreting to take what is
given from it's context.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rewrisk,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I interpreted your term 'savior' as associated with Buddha
Nature, not simply in methods applied to find your next meal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you do not meditate to halt your mind's functions the you
are not doing zazen. Just to be clear by 'halt' I mean 'sever your
attachments to the products of your mind's functions. This is usually
first done by halting them. By 'your mind's functions' I mean the
activities of your discriminating (rational) mind that creates dualities
such as good/bad, self/other, etc...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since this is a zen forum I assume the context is zen. Are
you posting in another context?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...Bill!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "rewrisk" <rewrisk@>
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm afraid that I must dispute your first statement.
> > > > > > > The reality is that since the creation of the first
rudimentry tools such creative endeavour has markedly improved life for
people.
> > > > > > > If I would live? Then I must breath, this requires effort.
> > > > > > > If I would live? Then I must drink water, this requires
effort.
> > > > > > > If I would live? Then I must eat, this requires effort.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I disagree with the Buddha's suicidal theology.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Secondly I do not meditate to halt my minds functions as
my mind see's ceaselessly to the needs of my body. But to be aware of
it. I control my mind so that it does not interfere with functions I
become aware of. I control my mind so that in the fullness of awareness
I can take steps to adress the limitations of hard wired reflexive
instincts. I control my mind so that I can decide what course my life
takes rather than leaving it to those primitive instincts in the vain
hope that instinct will serve me better than I can serve myself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Finally I realise the context in which your statement is
true is valid.
> > > > > > > But is that context the situation here Bill?
> > > > > > > The instinct to prey upon others is the most rudimentry.
> > > > > > > Mammals begin life eating thier mothers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@>
wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ED,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Abandoning effort has always been man's savior.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Meditate (zazen) to halt your mind's functions and
discard your desire for control.
> > > > > > > > Discover you have no self to discipline.
> > > > > > > > Just be.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No need to jump, you are already there.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ...Bill!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "rewrisk" <rewrisk@>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Practical creative endeavour has always been man's
saviour.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > For enlightenment meditate to understand your minds
function and how to exercise effective control over it.
> > > > > > > > > Strengthen your will with self discipline.
> > > > > > > > > Aquaint yourself with humility.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Then Jump.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "ED"
<seacrofter001@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What should we do to be saved? ;-)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "rewrisk"
<rewrisk@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > When you were a child you heard the word and knew
meaning.
> > > > > > > > > > > But the mind is lazy, conservation of energy
instinctive.
> > > > > > > > > > > Now you have a dictionary for a mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > Now knowing the meaning of words you hear nothing.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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