Rewrisk, I'm disappointed to learn that you hope I will continue to disappoint you. So I guess your hopes have already at least partially been realized.
I like being likened to ambiguity. That means I'm not fixed or set in my ways. I'm flexible. I wax and wane, ebb and flow with the Tao. But I am sometimes disappointed... ...Bill! --- In [email protected], "rewrisk" <rewrisk@...> wrote: > > I'm sure you will Bill as I will continue to hope. > > Bill? > You are the ambiguity! > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > Rewrisk, > > > > Sorry to disappoint you, but I call them as I see them. > > > > Unless you write more clearly or take the time to explain how you are using > > ambiguous terms I can't guarantee I won't disappoint you again. > > > > But I'll keep trying...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], "rewrisk" <rewrisk@> wrote: > > > > > > Your the only one here who seems to have trouble with meaning and words > > > Bill. Honestly mate? I think I am talking to a mule. > > > As for interpreting it is misinterpreting to take what is given from it's > > > context. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rewrisk, > > > > > > > > I interpreted your term 'savior' as associated with Buddha Nature, not > > > > simply in methods applied to find your next meal. > > > > > > > > If you do not meditate to halt your mind's functions the you are not > > > > doing zazen. Just to be clear by 'halt' I mean 'sever your attachments > > > > to the products of your mind's functions. This is usually first done > > > > by halting them. By 'your mind's functions' I mean the activities of > > > > your discriminating (rational) mind that creates dualities such as > > > > good/bad, self/other, etc... > > > > > > > > Since this is a zen forum I assume the context is zen. Are you posting > > > > in another context? > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "rewrisk" <rewrisk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid that I must dispute your first statement. > > > > > The reality is that since the creation of the first rudimentry tools > > > > > such creative endeavour has markedly improved life for people. > > > > > If I would live? Then I must breath, this requires effort. > > > > > If I would live? Then I must drink water, this requires effort. > > > > > If I would live? Then I must eat, this requires effort. > > > > > > > > > > I disagree with the Buddha's suicidal theology. > > > > > > > > > > Secondly I do not meditate to halt my minds functions as my mind > > > > > see's ceaselessly to the needs of my body. But to be aware of it. I > > > > > control my mind so that it does not interfere with functions I become > > > > > aware of. I control my mind so that in the fullness of awareness I > > > > > can take steps to adress the limitations of hard wired reflexive > > > > > instincts. I control my mind so that I can decide what course my life > > > > > takes rather than leaving it to those primitive instincts in the vain > > > > > hope that instinct will serve me better than I can serve myself. > > > > > > > > > > Finally I realise the context in which your statement is true is > > > > > valid. > > > > > But is that context the situation here Bill? > > > > > The instinct to prey upon others is the most rudimentry. > > > > > Mammals begin life eating thier mothers. > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ED, > > > > > > > > > > > > Abandoning effort has always been man's savior. > > > > > > > > > > > > Meditate (zazen) to halt your mind's functions and discard your > > > > > > desire for control. > > > > > > Discover you have no self to discipline. > > > > > > Just be. > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to jump, you are already there. > > > > > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "rewrisk" <rewrisk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Practical creative endeavour has always been man's saviour. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For enlightenment meditate to understand your minds function and > > > > > > > how to exercise effective control over it. > > > > > > > Strengthen your will with self discipline. > > > > > > > Aquaint yourself with humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then Jump. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should we do to be saved? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "rewrisk" <rewrisk@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you were a child you heard the word and knew meaning. > > > > > > > > > But the mind is lazy, conservation of energy instinctive. > > > > > > > > > Now you have a dictionary for a mind. > > > > > > > > > Now knowing the meaning of words you hear nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! 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