Bill,

Thank you.

I resonate with what you say.

--ED



--- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
ED,

Abandoning effort has always been man's savior.

Meditate (zazen) to halt your mind's functions and discard your desire
for control.
Discover you have no self to discipline.
Just be.

No need to jump, you are already there.

...Bill!


--- In [email protected]
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/post?postID=xF2iBqNyyvsVLWuSO2f\
6Ixfp9pc_oUJ1NLjANnO0_r06n-5yAMcj5lP6IR2E5STSbJj8afVslv7yeXIuIYhuO3k> ,
"rewrisk" <rewrisk@...> wrote:
>
> Do?
>
> Practical creative endeavour has always been man's saviour.
>
> For enlightenment meditate to understand your minds function and how
to
exercise effective control over it.
> Strengthen your will with self discipline.
> Aquaint yourself with humility.
>
> Then Jump.
   > --- In [email protected]
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/post?postID=xF2iBqNyyvsVLWuSO2f\
6Ixfp9pc_oUJ1NLjANnO0_r06n-5yAMcj5lP6IR2E5STSbJj8afVslv7yeXIuIYhuO3k> ,
"ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
> >
> > What should we do to be saved? ;-)
   > > --- In [email protected]
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/post?postID=xF2iBqNyyvsVLWuSO2f\
6Ixfp9pc_oUJ1NLjANnO0_r06n-5yAMcj5lP6IR2E5STSbJj8afVslv7yeXIuIYhuO3k> ,
"rewrisk" <rewrisk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > When you were a child you heard the word and knew meaning.
> > > But the mind is lazy, conservation of energy instinctive.
> > > Now you have a dictionary for a mind.
> > > Now knowing the meaning of words you hear nothing.


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