K/Joe,
 
I am in agreement with all your remarks, except K's last sentence: None of this 
is vehicle or obstacle to realization.
Anthony


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From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, 18 June 2012, 13:04
Subject: Re: [Zen] Speaking of Compassion


  
Hinduism, is contained in the Vedas.

Vedanta is 'beyond/outside the Vedas'

Buddhism, is radical Neo-Vedanta

Tibetan Buddism, is Bon Buddhism.

Ch'an Buddhism is Taoist Buddhism 

Zen Buddhism is Shintoist Taoist Buddhism

Western Zen Buddhism sells more T-shirts.

None of this is vehicle, or obstacle to realization.

K



On 6/17/2012 8:30 PM, Joe wrote: 
  
>Anthony,
>
>To me, Tibetan Buddhism is not quite Buddhism. The influence that
>the native Bon religion has had on the Buddhism that was received 
>from India is still determinative. I don't criticize Tibetan
>practice; but I could never get straight their CHANTING, though I tried it 
>while I stayed at a Tib. temple in Hawai'i, each day, on the
>Big Island, for a few weeks. It's harder than Sheng Yen's Chinese
>ritual was for me, by far! (but I hung out with him for 30 years.
>Only a few weeks in HI... . Not fair of me. Yet, the difference is
>stark).
>
>--Joe
>
>> Anthony Wu mailto:wuasg@... wrote:
> 
>> It is not surprising that Sheng Yen had good relationships with TNH, as they 
>> were similar. Dalai Lama is different, though they might respect each other, 
>> as they are both erudite scholars. [snip]
>
>

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