Bill and William, Certainly nothing wrong with that but it's NOT Zen.
Zen is not "making your heart sing". It's confronting actually reality whatever that may be and however it may manifest... Searching after 'good' feelings is not Zen, it's attachment.... Zen does not search after anything.... Edgar On Sep 2, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Bill! wrote: > Exactomundo!!!!! > > --- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@...> wrote: > > > > I suppose that it points to ridding the mind of all preconceptions, of > > seeing > > things as they are and not what they are labeled. > >  Bill > > > > > > > > > > Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: ED <seacrofter001@...> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sun, September 2, 2012 10:58:07 AM > > Subject: [Zen] Re: There's still a bowl? > > > >  > > > > Bill, > > I am underwhelmed by these cute Zen anecdotes. In not too many words, what > > is > > the great truth being pointed at in this one? > > --ED > >  > > --- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@> wrote: > > > > > > Mike's question brought up memories of my earlier readings on Zen. The > > > idea of > > > > > > going beyond words and labeling things. The story that went > > > something > > >like "A > > > > > > teacher placed a bowl in the center of a groud of monks and asked them to > > > tell > > > > > him what it was. After several erudite philosophical responses one monk > > > got up > > > > > and kicked the bowl."  I may be mis-remembering the specifics but it > > > went > > > something like that. I can understand intellectually what going > > > beyond words > > > > > > but getting to that place has proved most difficult. > > > Bill > > > >
