Edgar, I was responding to the body of Bill's post, not the postscript. He ends all his posts with this 'make your heart sing' text.
But yes, zen is not about emphasizing 'good' feelings and avoiding 'bad' feelings. It's as you suggest accepting everything as is. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Bill and William, > > Certainly nothing wrong with that but it's NOT Zen. > > Zen is not "making your heart sing". It's confronting actually reality > whatever that may be and however it may manifest... > > Searching after 'good' feelings is not Zen, it's attachment.... > > Zen does not search after anything.... > > Edgar > > > > On Sep 2, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Bill! wrote: > > > Exactomundo!!!!! > > > > --- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@> wrote: > > > > > > I suppose that it points to ridding the mind of all preconceptions, of > > > seeing > > > things as they are and not what they are labeled. > > >  Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find what makes your heart singâ¦and do it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: ED <seacrofter001@> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Sun, September 2, 2012 10:58:07 AM > > > Subject: [Zen] Re: There's still a bowl? > > > > > >  > > > > > > Bill, > > > I am underwhelmed by these cute Zen anecdotes. In not too many words, > > > what is > > > the great truth being pointed at in this one? > > > --ED > > >  > > > --- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mike's question brought up memories of my earlier readings on Zen. > > > > The idea of > > > > > > > > going beyond words and labeling things. The story that wentà> > > > something > > > >likeà"A > > > > > > > > teacher placed a bowl in the center of a groud of monks and asked them > > > > to tell > > > > > > > him what it was. After several erudite philosophical responses one > > > > monk got up > > > > > > > and kicked the bowl."  I may be mis-remembering the specifics but it > > > > went > > > > something like that.àI can understand intellectuallyàwhat going > > > > beyond words > > > > > > > > but getting to that place has proved most difficult. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
