Bill, Yes, it is clear that Bill! is just an opinion, a mental model...
But in whose mind? Edgar On Sep 12, 2012, at 3:14 AM, billsmart wrote: > Kris, > > 'My opinion' is my default 'mental model', or I guess I could call it > 'Bill!'s mental model'. It is the default model I use to communicate with > others. Is it a better (closer to Reality) 'mental model' than others? I > couldn't claim that, but I can say it's the most comfortable for me. > > I posted many posts ago about having and using different 'tools in my tool > bag'. Another way to say this is that I believe I can communicate using > different 'mental models' - like the scientific 'mental model' with Edgar, > and the Christian 'mental model' with Merle, and the Buddhist 'mental model' > which those on the site who prefer that. > > I know I'm just simulating the other 'mental models', like a MAC OS > simulating a WIN OS to be able to run WIN-specific applications, but I think > that's better than trying to force everyone to communicate using my default > 'mental model' all the time. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: > > > > On 9/11/2012 9:23 PM, Bill! wrote: > > > Pain is real. Suffering (in the way the term is used in Buddhism) is > > > not real. It's a 'mental model' (aka 'illusion') which is the result > > > of attachments which are in turn dependent upon the creation of the > > > dualistic concept of 'self'. > > > > > > That's IMO anyway... > > > > Is the opinion 'real'? > > > > If so, then 'suffering' as a 'mental mode' is real in the same way. If > > not, there's no suffering and no opinions of it. > > > > Either way, these appear. Only the form of expression differs. > > Real/unreal is just more thinking. No problem. Really. ;) > > > > KG > > > >
