> 
> You are a persuasive fellow, Edgar, and I am mindful of the negative karma of 
> hiding the dharma, but remain dubious that any of the lurkers will be more 
> receptive of my insight than those who post. So, let's do this: you may post 
> this, and antecedent e-mails to the group with the following statement.
> 
> Whereas I am grateful for those who gave me a glimpse of the moon, I am 
> willing to discuss the dharma with those who have an open mind regarding the 
> insights of genetic science and evolutionary psychology. Those of you who 
> believe the historic-but-pre-scientific Way of Zen is already perfect, and, 
> in particular that the current manifestation of the zen tradition is 
> acceptable, should not waste our time by contacting me. In particular, those 
> who believe you already know what is morally right and wrong, in accordance 
> with the dharma, will not be able to comprehend my view. Those who believe 
> that anything which happens to agree with your inclinations is 'zen', or who 
> would argue that promiscuous altruism is righteousness would be wasting their 
> time to communicate with me. Those of you who believe that emotional states 
> you may have experienced are self authenticating and have given you access to 
> 'truth' are probably not ready to understand me. 
> 
> I do not absolutely refuse to communicate with Bill, Joe, or even Chris, Mike 
> or Merle, but unless those of you who agree with the views they have 
> expressed can abandon the assumption that your views are congruent with 
> 'righteousness' I don't think I can help you, and I have no interest in 
> disputation. 
> 
> RAF 
> 
> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:38 AM
> Subject: Re: re
> 
> There are actually several hundred members of the group who likely read but 
> don't post. Think of all those poor souls starved for the truth!
> :-)
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 11, 2013, at 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>> I appreciate the implication of this, but recall that I eschewed the 
>> Bodhisattva vows, though of course I didn't know this pack of losers then. 
>> Still, because I am mindful of the karmic debt I owe to those who pointed 
>> out the moon to me, I not only imparted my view, but did so several times, 
>> in spite of rudeness and scorn: obligation discharged. I am not attached to 
>> teaching or 'saving' these people. In the cases of some of them, I actually 
>> feel something like schadenfreude: it is their karmic burden to have denied 
>> others whatever assistance I might have provided, by scorning my wisdom, so 
>> not only are they blundering off in 'darkness', but they have denied the 
>> light to others.
>> 
>> If  I actually thought any of them had ears to hear, I would speak again, 
>> but they are too full of themselves, and the PC semblance-of-zen of this era 
>> actually does confirm their rejection of my view, so I am content to follow 
>> my Way and keep my own counsel: let everyone work out their own salvation ;-)
>> 
>> RAF
>> 
>> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
>> To: "[email protected] Fonda" <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:36 PM
>> Subject: re
>> 
>> PS: I really wish you'd post your thoughts to the Zen group as well as just 
>> me. Would be an excellent counter to all the nonsense there...
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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