Edgar,

I did get this software and checked it out to see if I could use it to possible 
replace a couple websites I run.  I found it easy to use but it was a little 
limited for a complete website of the type I wanted.  They have lots of 
templates and you can do most anything you want.  It really has a nice, clean 
look.  It's all free.  They also have upgrades that you can buy, but they're 
not necessary.

...Bill!

Check them out...http://wordpress.org/.  Their own site is run on their 
software.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> 
> Have you used that sw to start any blogs yourself? If so I'd like to know 
> your experience..
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Bill! wrote:
> 
> > Edgar,
> > 
> > You're correct. I don't, but RAF clearly does. It's the same with all 
> > illusion. If you believe it's real it can have real effects on you. Like 
> > feeling guilty, or feeling like you sinned.
> > 
> > I just expressed my hope that RAF finds a way to share his thoughts in a 
> > way that will make him feel he is avoiding or at least reducing the amount 
> > of negative karma he thinks he may be accumulating; or perhaps even start 
> > accumulating positive karma if he believes karma comes in those two flavors.
> > 
> > I do agree with some of the others' suggestions that RAF's insights into 
> > genetic science and/or evolutionary psychology sound like something that 
> > would much better received on a forum dedicated specifically to those 
> > fields, or at least focused on science.
> > 
> > Since he sounds like he's mainly interested in acceptance and definitely 
> > looking to avoid any hint of challenge or rejection he might even consider 
> > just starting a BLOG in which he could record and publish his insights, 
> > perhaps allowing some questions or comments if and when he feels ready for 
> > that kind of interaction. If he wants to do that I suggest he check out 
> > Wordpress (http://wordpress.org/) for some very practical and user-friendly 
> > blog software.
> > 
> > Another thing he could consider would be to start his own Yahoo! Group 
> > dedicated to his area of focus - whatever that is.
> > 
> > Anything to keep the karma wolf from the door...
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > > 
> > > I thought you didn't believe in karma?
> > > 
> > > Edgar
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Apr 12, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Bill! wrote:
> > > 
> > > > RAF (via Edgar),
> > > > 
> > > > Although I find your assertion that genetic science and evolutionary 
> > > > psychology have anything at all to do with zen besides further muddying 
> > > > the waters (remember the moon?) I can assure you that I do not assert 
> > > > that I know what is 'morally right and wrong' and do not hold any of my 
> > > > views as 'righteous' at all. When I speak assertively, positively and 
> > > > confidently it is because they are the results of experience - not 
> > > > thought. I do have to express this experience in thought and certainly 
> > > > run into my share of problems there, but this is the reason I 
> > > > participate in the Yahoo! Zen Forum (and others) - to improve my 
> > > > ability to communicate my experience.
> > > > 
> > > > But as both Edgar and even Merle will tell you I am always open to 
> > > > hearing other's points of view. That doesn't mean I'll agree and also 
> > > > doesn't mean I won't push back or ask difficult questions.
> > > > 
> > > > If you wish to participate in the Zen Forum directly or indirectly (via 
> > > > Edgar) please do. If you wish to start up private email discussions 
> > > > between yourself and our members you're of course welcome to do that 
> > > > also.
> > > > 
> > > > However you decide to proceed I certainly hope it helps you with that 
> > > > karma problem you seem to think you have.
> > > > 
> > > > ...Bill!
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You are a persuasive fellow, Edgar, and I am mindful of the 
> > > > > > negative karma of hiding the dharma, but remain dubious that any of 
> > > > > > the lurkers will be more receptive of my insight than those who 
> > > > > > post. So, let's do this: you may post this, and antecedent e-mails 
> > > > > > to the group with the following statement.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Whereas I am grateful for those who gave me a glimpse of the moon, 
> > > > > > I am willing to discuss the dharma with those who have an open mind 
> > > > > > regarding the insights of genetic science and evolutionary 
> > > > > > psychology. Those of you who believe the 
> > > > > > historic-but-pre-scientific Way of Zen is already perfect, and, in 
> > > > > > particular that the current manifestation of the zen tradition is 
> > > > > > acceptable, should not waste our time by contacting me. In 
> > > > > > particular, those who believe you already know what is morally 
> > > > > > right and wrong, in accordance with the dharma, will not be able to 
> > > > > > comprehend my view. Those who believe that anything which happens 
> > > > > > to agree with your inclinations is 'zen', or who would argue that 
> > > > > > promiscuous altruism is righteousness would be wasting their time 
> > > > > > to communicate with me. Those of you who believe that emotional 
> > > > > > states you may have experienced are self authenticating and have 
> > > > > > given you access to 'truth' are probably not ready to understand 
> > > > > > me. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I do not absolutely refuse to communicate with Bill, Joe, or even 
> > > > > > Chris, Mike or Merle, but unless those of you who agree with the 
> > > > > > views they have expressed can abandon the assumption that your 
> > > > > > views are congruent with 'righteousness' I don't think I can help 
> > > > > > you, and I have no interest in disputation. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > RAF 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: Edgar Owen <Edgar@>
> > > > > > To: "rafonda@" <rafonda@> 
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:38 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: re
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There are actually several hundred members of the group who likely 
> > > > > > read but don't post. Think of all those poor souls starved for the 
> > > > > > truth!
> > > > > > :-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Edgar
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Apr 11, 2013, at 9:34 PM, rafonda@ wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> I appreciate the implication of this, but recall that I eschewed 
> > > > > >> the Bodhisattva vows, though of course I didn't know this pack of 
> > > > > >> losers then. Still, because I am mindful of the karmic debt I owe 
> > > > > >> to those who pointed out the moon to me, I not only imparted my 
> > > > > >> view, but did so several times, in spite of rudeness and scorn: 
> > > > > >> obligation discharged. I am not attached to teaching or 'saving' 
> > > > > >> these people. In the cases of some of them, I actually feel 
> > > > > >> something like schadenfreude: it is their karmic burden to have 
> > > > > >> denied others whatever assistance I might have provided, by 
> > > > > >> scorning my wisdom, so not only are they blundering off in 
> > > > > >> 'darkness', but they have denied the light to others.
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> If I actually thought any of them had ears to hear, I would speak 
> > > > > >> again, but they are too full of themselves, and the PC 
> > > > > >> semblance-of-zen of this era actually does confirm their rejection 
> > > > > >> of my view, so I am content to follow my Way and keep my own 
> > > > > >> counsel: let everyone work out their own salvation ;-)
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> RAF
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> From: Edgar Owen <Edgar@>
> > > > > >> To: "rafonda@ Fonda" <rafonda@> 
> > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:36 PM
> > > > > >> Subject: re
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> PS: I really wish you'd post your thoughts to the Zen group as 
> > > > > >> well as just me. Would be an excellent counter to all the nonsense 
> > > > > >> there...
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >> Edgar
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>



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