joe... i am with you!.. a great message....merle


  
William,

Bill! may answer just as he will.

I'd say that the people you work with, William, may never have realized their 
Buddha nature if they have not ever practiced.

It takes practice of a suitable sort to awaken.  Not *just* a lack of 
intellectual functioning in the moment.

Nor do people awaken to Buddha Nature when they are anesthetized, while the 
intellect sleeps.

I doubt that Bill! is saying that people with little going on upstairs or who 
have become progressively demented have an easier time in awakening.

I would say that such a person would still need to practice.  And it might be 
difficult for them to encounter practice if they need to be cared for by 
others, in a milieu where Zen practice would not be an entry high up on the 
list of medical or other services that these people require.  No, it would 
never ever appear on the list.

I'll put it bluntly in this way: No practice, No awakening.

If none of the one, then none of the other.

So, what's the hindrance from the intellect?  Simply, when, and while the 
intellect is functioning actively, one does not awaken.  When one is thinking, 
one is in, or on, or of, the relative plane.  But when the intellect does not 
interject and interfere by its movements and its taking center-stage, only the 
original mind is left. 

In a demented person, even if the intellect is largely lost, I think the 
connection to the original mind is blocked by some short-circuited element, or 
orphan process, or thread of the intellect.

In the demented person, perhaps some intellectual process refuses to cease, or 
cannot cease, like the HAL-9000 in the movie 2001.  It had to be removed, by 
"Dave".

In the case of the demented person, the person is stuck.  And can not only not 
express himself/herself, but cannot wake up, either, because some remnant of 
the intellect has its foot in the door and will not allow that door to close 
naturally.

That door can close naturally in a healthy person, who practices in proper ways 
and has cooperating circumstances.

The demented person may thus not be ABLE to practice, and practice in any case 
is probably not offered to the person, so practice is or becomes moot.

BTW, in a healthy-brained person, even once the door closes, the intellect may 
still enter in again.  Sometimes all too soon.  Other times, one goes for very 
lengthy periods, awake, and also enjoys completely dreamless sleep, for weeks 
or months.

Through continued practice, one can use everything freely, and never stick 
anywhere.  The intellect can be raised and used and lowered, like a shop-window 
cover, opened and allowed to rest again; it need not always be spinning its 
wheels uselessly, generating phantoms, and wasting gas.  It can be our TOOL: It 
is NOT "us".

And, so we practice!

By Intellect, I mean the active reasoning faculty.  I do not mean Memory!

Bill! may have his own ideas.  He usually does, I'm glad to see.

Best,

--Joe

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