Bill, Total agreement as stated.
Just incorporate what I said yesterday that these forms exist in reality instead of in your nutty head and you'll have the whole meaning.. Edgar On May 25, 2013, at 3:41 AM, Bill! wrote: > > Siska, > > As you'll soon find out Edgar and I have almost the polar opposite opinion on > just about everything. In fact he'll probably disagree with this statement > ;>) and will certainly jump all over the rest of this post. > > Rumi's poem/metaphor was: > > I looked for my self, > But my self was gone. > The boundaries of my being > Had disappeared in the sea. > Waves broke. Awareness rose again. > And a voice returned me to myself. > It always happens like this. > Sea turns on itself and foams, > And with every foaming bit another body. > Another being takes form. > And when the sea sends word, > Each foaming body melts back to ocean-breath. > - Rumi > > I can just imagine Rumi standing on the beach watching the waves form, come > rhythmically in, crash upon the beach and then spend themselves by slipping > back into the sea - losing himself in Buddha Nature and later composing this > poem. My interpretation of it is: > > I looked for my self, > But my self was gone. > The boundaries of my being > Had disappeared in the sea. > > Rumi is describing the holistic experience of Buddha Nature. The illusion of > dualism has vanished and his illusion of 'self' as something independent and > apart from everything else has vanished with it. It has vanished into sea > which is a metaphor for emptiness. > > Waves broke. Awareness rose again. > And a voice returned me to myself. > It always happens like this. > > Dualism returns. His holistic experience of Buddha Nature has been > interrupted and his illusion of self has returned. This alternation between > holism and dualism, between emptiness and self happens regularly, much like > the waves surging rhythmically upon the beach. > > Sea turns on itself and foams, > And with every foaming bit another body. > Another being takes form. > > Now that he is abiding in dualism all other illusions, perceptions, thoughts, > etc..., of all other (10,000) things appear. > > And when the sea sends word, > Each foaming body melts back to ocean-breath. > > But when he returns again to Buddha Nature all these illusions melt back into > emptiness. > > That's my reading of this anyway. It will be interesting to see what Edgar > comes up with although I think I could almost write it for him... > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], siska_cen@... wrote: > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > I followed until: "Waves broke". > > > > The rest is a bit confusing. It's as if the 'self' is back. > > > > Siska > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Bill!" BillSmart@... > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:04:29 > > To: [email protected] > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Zen] Nice Quote > > > > > > ..Bill! > > > >
