Kathleen, 
Before the dinosaurs the word Christian did not exist.
Saying that you are not a Christian would make you attached to 
words. If you have a clear mind and realize "what is" then you are 
one with reality. God is Reality and Reality is God. So you are one 
with God. God has many names, Jesus the Christ is one of them. So 
with a clear mind you are one with Christianity. As soon as you make 
a preference with Christianity or Buddhism then you are a follower 
of niether, But when you forget them both then you are follower of 
both.

David Barclay
http://www.christianzen.com

"Acceptance is the grand nuetralizer." W. Pickett 2004




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Kathleen Knight" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Still no Christian, but that's my kind of Zen, David.
> Kathleen
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: David Isaac Barclay 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:12 PM
>   Subject: [Zen] Re: Street Fighting Zen
> 
> 
>   Your mind has been trained to be the way it is. A ritual thought 
or 
>   bevhaviour is ingrained as habit when done 3000 times. (I dont 
know 
>   if that is scientific) the point being that we have behaviours 
and 
>   reactions based upon previously learned patterns. These will not 
go 
>   away quickly. If you are angry at someone when they are "acting 
out" 
>   then you have an ingrained mental process that activates 
chemicals 
>   when you experience the angry human. And then you are swayed by 
>   those chemicals to act in a certain way. 
> 
>   1st step is to realize what thoughts and emotions are. They are 
bio 
>   chemical, and if they are bio chemical that means they are 
physical, 
>   and if they are physical then they are molecular and if they are 
>   molecular then they are also atomic and each particular atom has 
a 
>   nucleus. Now I have read the if the nucleus of an atom is the 
size 
>   of a grape then the electron would circle out 2 miles away. So 
if 
>   ultimate reality is at the sub atomic level then "our" reality 
is 
>   only real to us because we have eyes and senses. At the atomic 
level 
>   the only difference between a skin atom and an air atom is a 
>   circling electron. So at that level where is your anger? It 
doesnt 
>   exist exept for circling electrons in a universe of infinity. So 
>   when we come back to you and your reactions we can see that the 
>   world is like an illusion. Subatomic particles wiggling. When 
you 
>   realize this reality then you can understand emptiness. 
> 
>   So when you can understand that your "reality" is relative then 
you 
>   can understand that everything is changing and 
>   morphing. "Everything" is temporary. So then a thought is 
temporary 
>   and an emotion is temporary. One moment you are happy the next 
>   angry. 
> 
>   So your question on "how to do this" is based upon your study of 
>   yourself. What makes you get angry at these people. What is that 
>   trigger. A thought leads to emotion and an emotion leads to 
>   decision. A desicion can effect the rest of your life. Make no 
>   decisions based on emotion and realize emotion comes from 
thought, 
>   and when you were a child born into this world you had no 
thought. 
>   You only had life. 
> 
>   Before the next thought and after the last one, you are an elite 
>   soldier of discipline realizing the "reality" of reality. And 
this 
>   set you apart from almost everyone and their vocal cord 
vibrations 
>   are only waves of sound coming at you. Then you can see that 
this 
>   angry human needs help to understand as well. Thats a true path 
of a 
>   zen street fighter, No Zen, No Street, No Fighter. Only wiggling.
> 
>   David Barclay
>   www.christianzen.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "AC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>   > From: David Isaac Barclay Their power can only come from a 
>   reaction from you. When they are observed as what they are...a 
>   shouting human...then you can just reflect the situation and 
deal 
>   with things objectively. This of 
>   > course takes practice... But this is true street fighting 
zen.>>
>   > 
>   > So how do you get there? I am someone who has the nervous 
>   temperament and the shouting, yelling, etc. human gets to me 
every 
>   time. That is a split-second reaction. How do I not-react before 
>   reacting when I am just minding my own business and someone just 
>   pops up to complain, yell, insult, etc.? How do I get that 
objective 
>   brain cell ahead of the other brain cells?
> 
> 
> 
>   Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, 
Right  Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, 
Right Livelihood 
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