Hi Al

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "AC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only reason that Huggie got moderated (not kicked out) had to 
> do with his posts regarding urinating on Roshi Kapleau's book and 
> sending him a letter telling Kapleau that he was glad that Kapleau 
> was terminally ill, etc. I did not even toss him out, I just 
thought that making several very cruel remarks about someone who was 
dying was too much. And it was going on for several weeks, not just 
once or twice. Huggie could have continued, but he chose to leave 
because he did not like his messages being checked for content. 

I'm sorry. I thought it was Wetlandwisdom instead of Huggie who 
insulted Kapleau Roshi. Must have confused the two.

> Alex was just contacted personally because I felt that OTHERS were 
> attacking him, and I felt that he was sincere and did not deserve 
> that. He and I exchanged a few e-mails, and he seems to be a very 
easy person to interact with. I think that to some degree he saw the 
list as being antagonistic, and I think that he has changed his 
perception a bit. 

Excellent moderating. I like Alex too, he's a great guy, very brainy.

> I do on the list what I think needs to be done. I do not want the 
> list to have hundreds of members who never participate and are 
> indifferent. I want people here who are engaged in what they are 
seeking, and who are alive, have feelings, and thoughts. Perhaps I 
am not a very skillful person in terms of stirring things up, but I 
want everyone here to think, feel, use their intuition, contact 
their Chi, whatever it takes.

I think you've done fairly well. Actually, I would just like to 
express my heartfelt gratitude to you for creating and moderating 
this list. I've really learnt much here. (And thank you too Anjin 
for co-moderating).
But perhaps, we should go for quality instead of quantity. Should 
having an active list be an end in itself? The Middle East is also a 
hotbed of activities, but is it necessarily good?

> Every time the list gets near 300 people, I get an urge to shake 
> the tree, and inevitably about 50 members leave. They are the 
deadwood. I am glad to see them go. They are the people who never 
contribute anything meaningful. 
> We who stay often grow stronger, smarter, calmer, healthier, 
wiser. We are The Best of The Best.

A master (I think OSHO) once said that to have the idea, "I am more 
superior than you", is simply inhuman. So let's not get carried away.

> At some point, I hope this list will have around 250 members who 
> are leading their own Zen Groups and who are a strongly knit group 
> of friends. Perhaps that is impossible, but I think it is already 
happening at some levels. This list will eventually connect real Zen 
Centers together, and we will all grow and give a positive good.

Great aspiration. Very altruistic too. Merits inconceiveable.

wai



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