Guy, I think there is a hope in us that when we hear "end of suffering" -- we think somehow we will get to experience life, only none of it will hurt. This is impossible.
Its of course context/audience-specific, but "cessation of suffering" is more a matter of not suffering from within suffering, IMHO. (which leads to the question, "who is there to do the suffering?"). When asked how the monks endured the heat of summer and the cold of winter, he responded "In summer we sweat, in winter we shiver. What more do you want to know?" Trying to imagine what its like to shiver, and not suffer, then use that as a model for behavior, is like trying to get to the beach my imagining what you think the ocean sounds like... Rod Scholl -----Original Message----- From: ventouxboy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Zen] Breaking attachment ---Thanks for the advice Genryu. Maybe I'll have to alter the basics to a bowl, a spoon, a robe, and a condom.lol. Seriously though, aren't relationships a form of attachment? And consequently a begining of suffering? In my job i see a lot of relationships based on all the wrong reasons(money, looks, abusive behavior, etc), so maybe it's just me. But between that and wood, Hell, i'm a 2x4.; )Guy In [email protected], "Rev Genryu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guy ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/hjtSRD/3MnJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
