--- In [email protected], "Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Several posts indicate that there are relatively better or worse > attachments. I'd agree, given my statements on the progressive nature > of the practice of zazen. (AND the progressive nature of practice is > interdependent, or codependently arising, with the ultimate nature of > always already.) And I'd also agree that even the attachment to non- > attached awareness must ultimately go in the latter, more advanced > stages. The latter Chogyam Trungpa calls spiritual materialism, and > for full and complete realization it's out the door too. But let's > face it, how many of us are fully and completely realized? I know I > ain't, despite the incessant repetitions of "you are completely and > fully realized in this moment." And guess what? Most of our teachers > aren't either! Yes, heresy. Now Dogen, that's another story...
This is why I think it's important for people to get out of their houses and go meet communities of practitioners, whether at a monastery or just a local meditation group. It's easy to play the "I'm more enlightened/less attached than you are" game here, because we can wear whatever mask suits us at the time. But all bets are off in the meat world. We all have our attachments like it or not. And, BTW, even awakened people are subject to kinds of attachment that keep them from deepening their realization. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Current Book Discussion: Appreciate Your Life by Taizan Maezumi Roshi Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
