--- In [email protected], "Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "dkotschessa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > This is why I think it's important for people to get out of their > > houses and go meet communities of practitioners, whether at a > > monastery or just a local meditation group. It's easy to play > > the "I'm more enlightened/less attached than you are" game here, > > because we can wear whatever mask suits us at the time. But all > >bets are off in the meat world. We all have our attachments like > it >or not. > > > > And, BTW, even awakened people are subject to kinds of attachment > that > > keep them from deepening their realization. > > Alleluiah brother or sister. (Sorry, I don't know your gender.) I > agree about the real-time (meat world) teacher and sangha, and that > even "enlightened" folk still have their attachments. For example, > Chogyam Trugpa drank and smoked himself to an early death. > > By the way, are you the one that harped that practicing without > teacher and/or sangha is wasteful masturbation? On that topic, and > it's relation to this one, just "masturbating" here is not enough > either, but like its sexual counterpart it can play an important > role combined with meat practice. Any number of sexual therapists > have folks practice sex with a partner by masturbating. And/or > masturbating in front of a partner to show them how you like it. It > doesn't replace sex with a partner, it's an adjunct to it. Like this > forum should be an adjunct to our meat teacher and community. AND > keep masturbating (practicing zazen) with yourself.
Nope, that wasn't me. I'd hardly be the one to advise against that.. I don't think practicing alone (either one) is wasteful. But I do think that at some point, some form of sangha is required to keep you from getting too "self-involved." (Double meaning on that word) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Current Book Discussion: Appreciate Your Life by Taizan Maezumi Roshi Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
