crosse wrote:
> I'll throw my opinion into the mix, and I guess the best way is just to do a 
> cut-&-paste session of previous comments.
> 
> 
> bithajcsar wrote:
> > Zenoss, even after numerous updates has serious bugs. In our software 
> > development company we call such bugs "show-stoppers".
> 
> I cannot disagree with this statement.  There are a couple of bugs in the 
> software that I would consider to be rather big deals.  I rant about them on 
> occasion on these forums.  Heck, I even learned Python just to try and solve 
> some of my personal annoyances.  Unfortunately I'm in sort of the same boat 
> and don't have a lot of time to devote to debugging software.  So then why am 
> I still using Zenoss, and why did we just buy a support contract?  Because I 
> see the potential for the product.  So far there hasn't been a "show-stopper" 
> bug that I haven't been able to work around.  Do they annoy me?  You betcha.  
> But is it the end of the world?  Not really.  If I didn't believe in the 
> product and the direction it is headed, I would have abandoned it six months 
> ago.
> 
> 
> daviz00 wrote:
> > The difference here is that Zenoss is still entering maturity.  [...]  You 
> > couldnt tell it was young? Even with all the numerous signs of a maturing 
> > project? Low version numbers, overly "enterprise" website, only a few 
> > people in the forums for support including the founder of the company... 
> > How about the fact that they are so friendly here?
> 
> Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. ;-)  But it's growing, and it's maturing.  
> Maybe not as fast as I (or others) would like, but I think we all see the 
> potential and are able to use the product in a day-to-day environment without 
> (much) hassle or headache.  It'll only get better. :-)
> 
> 
> daviz00 wrote:
> > Any programmer will find themselves in heaven with the kind of API Zendmd 
> > provides. 
> 
> Holy cow, I love their API.  Can't do something with the GUI?  Want to get it 
> done faster?  Oh look, there's a method for that...it's plain amazing.  I'm 
> building a nice little library of zendmd scripts to do all sorts of boring 
> admin tasks.  This was a side-topic, I know, but it also shows that while the 
> product is still young, they have built some really cool things into it from 
> the start.  And again, I only see it getting better.
> 
> 
> snarkout wrote:
> > I have run into more stumbling blocks using Zenoss than just about any 
> > other FOSS NMS I have used - this is most likely due to the overall 
> > configurability/complexity of Zenoss, [...].  The tradeoff is that Zenoss 
> > does appear to be doing a better job and seems to be heading in a better 
> > direction than these other projects - at least IMO/IME.
> 
> I can't agree more.  If I weren't bald already I think most of my hair would 
> be gone due to Zenoss.  ;-)  But I've come to much the same conclusion, that 
> most of my annoyances with the product are directly due to how flexible 
> Zenoss is designed to be, and I have to figure out to to make it work for our 
> environment.  I love the fact that Zenoss isn't dictating how I monitor my 
> environment, but that I tell Zenoss how to monitor my environment.
> 
> 
> snarkout wrote:
> > I abhor people who think that "free" is the most important part of FOSS, 
> > and find comments like "why would I ever *pay* for software?" distasteful.
> 
> Preach on, brother...
> 
> At the end of the day, Zenoss frustrates me more than most other software 
> suites (and I'm a Windows Administrator!).  With that being said though, I'm 
> just as apt to skip down the hall and relay some awesome new thing I did with 
> Zenoss to anyone who will listen.  (Ok, the skipping may be a bit of an 
> exaggeration. ;-))  The point is, I'm definitely willing to see where the 
> product is headed in the future.  And I only see good things coming...
> 
> 
> ---
> seth wright ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> windows engineer
> 540.568.2912 (office)
> james madison university


Well spoken....

If you are interested in sharing Zendmd scripts I run http://ilovenix.com  and 
I've been posting up some of my scripts with decent "human style" 
documentation. I'd be happy to let you document/post on the site if you're 
interested. I'm trying to centralize some of the resources for a successful 
Zenoss Install and I'm still lacking in content.

I dont know about you guys but I personally enjoy the whole freshness of the 
project.  Things are not discovered/wrote yet and its very cool to be on the 
fore front of new things. I'm lucky enough to get paid to sit around all day at 
work and find/create new ways to monitor our systems/network. You can be sure 
I'll extend Zenoss in all kinds of ways. It feels good to get random emails 
from the other side of the world saying "thanks you saved me hours". Makes the 
effort feel worth something.




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