I'll preface this with this caveat - I'm an open source user.  I use linux, 
*BSD, etc.  However, I can absolutely understand the OP's frustration - I 
experience it daily using FOSS software, though maybe not to the degree he 
(she?) has.  FOSS is always going to be a tradeoff - it's, well, free, but 
requires a lot more elbow grease in many cases.  This is not an option if you 
need results yesterday, and have a surplus of cash to throw at problems.  It's 
sometimes the only option if you have no cash and anly old P4 boxen lying 
around to use for your needs.  But I digress...

The basic point is sound - I have run into more stumbling blocks using Zenoss 
than just about any other FOSS NMS I have used - this is most likely due to the 
overall configurability/complexity of Zenoss, but at the end of the day, it's 
still been difficult and often frustrating to use/explore.  The documentation 
is very good, but somewhat scant in some areas.  The fora are "friendly" but 
incredibly unresponsive - the number of posts w/o any answers is staggering, 
and many of these are easy questions.  I try to answer these when I'm on the 
fora and see them - many times they are basic linux questions, not questions 
about Zenoss at all, per se.  I simply cannot imagine trying to pickup linux 
and zenoss at the same time - I'd have no hair left.  But again, I digress...  
The tradeoff is that Zenoss does appear to be doing a better job and seems to 
be heading in a better direction than these other projects - at least IMO/IME.

Also, the comment about paying for this software rings a bell but also rubs me 
the wrong way.  I abhor people who think that "free" is the most important part 
of FOSS, and find comments like "why would I ever *pay* for software?" 
distasteful.  IMO these are not people who embrace FOSS, but people who are 
cheapskates and embrace skinflintery.  HOWEVER...  I'm basically test driving 
this software myself, so I see the point the OP has made since I'm been 
muttering it to myself recently as well.  I'd *like* to press my company to buy 
support from Zenoss, but a) there's no way I could get even $50 x number of 
monitored nodes/year for a product that requires *lots* of my own time (is 
there a basic $$$ per trouble ticket option I've missed?), and b) I have to 
agree that so far upgrades have been a mess, etc, etc, so as far as a test 
drive goes, it hasn't exactly made me *want* to risk my reputation where I work 
for it.

In summary - good/great product, FOSS is a big bonus IMO but fantastically 
frustrating on occasion.




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