--- Gary Smith ---
Regardless, in 1836 when the revelation was given, Alvin still had not
been baptized, but was considered by God good enough to be in a vision of
the Celestial Kingdom. This tells me that the man was accepted as a
'true' Christian.

--- Mark Gregson ---
Joseph Smith had the vision in 1836 in the Kirtland temple.  In the
vision he saw his father, mother and Alvin in the celestial kingdom.
However, his father and mother were still alive when Joseph Smith had the
vision.  Therefore, the vision was of the future, after Alvin's temple
work would have been completed.  No one enters the Celestial Kingdom
without baptism if they die after reaching the age of accountability.
In my view, Mark is right. And Gary is still determined to avoid that fact that hell, whatever that means, is going to be a crowded place since "few" will find the narrow way that leads to life.

John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"...by proving contraries, truth is made manifest" --Joseph
Smith, History of the Church, Volume 6, p.248
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All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR

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