On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:43:21 -0400 Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Paul Winkler] > >>>I guess I don't understand the goal. Are we trying to make it > >>>so that zpt authors don't have to know any python? > > [Chris Withers] > >>For me, that would be ideal... > > [Paul Winkler] > >>>I really think that's a mistake. > > Guys, that line of thinking is a distraction. ZPT authors ought to > learn Python. The issue is deeper than that. I'll explain below. > > [Paul Winkler] > > Assuming that TALES python expressions are > > banned/discouraged/whatever, [...] > > Python expressions won't be banned. I will never consider them > discouraged for all cases, either. There will always be a need for > constructs like: > > <div tal:condition="python: a == b">...</div> > <div tal:condition="python: (a and b) or c">...</div> > > However, the following is quite bad: > > <tal:x define="ss nocall:modules/Products/PythonScripts/standard"> > <a tal:attributes="href python: ss.url_quote(some_url)" /> > </tal:x> Frankly, would not even have occurred to me - I would probably create a tiny Script (Python) en passant, and called it directly, as: <a tal:attributes="href python: here.url_quote(some_url)" />. I did not realize that this is deprecated in Zope3. > > This is un-Pythonic in numerous ways. snip > <a tal:attributes="href here/format:url_quote" /> > > To me, that's a vast improvment, and it's only one example. > But, what does all of this have to do with index:, key:, int:, etc.? index: and key: are particularly interesting, in that they use different syntax for something that python conflates syntactically. That is, an integer indexed reference looks exactly like a string indexed reference, both have form structure[key]. Jim Penny _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )