On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Tres Seaver <tsea...@palladion.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/10/2013 06:10 PM, Matthew Wilkes wrote: > >> Tres Seaver wrote: >>> What is needed is not scripts, but eyeballs: we need people who >>> know the various packages and*care* about getting them migrated to >>> github to step up. Softwward which doesn't have a champion willing >>> to do the work should stay behind on SVN. >> >> The community as a whole cares about having them all migrated to >> github. I'm sure this will happen the next time there's a sprint, just >> like lots of them got migrated (and subsequently deleted) at the zope4 >> sprint in San Francisco a few years back. > > The communite as-a-whole demonstrably does *not* care about many of the > projects on svn.zope.org. E.g.: > > https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/070977.html > >> We need man-hours, sure, but not champions. Being blocked on working >> on the code because you're the first one to care about a package and >> subsequently have to learn how to do the migration is a crazy way of >> doing things. > > The foundation agreed to support moving projects to github, but that > isn't a blank check. For instance, if there is substantial interest in > having the projects pulled in by the current Plone buildout moved, make a > list of them, and recruit the folks to step up and help with the > migration for them. The effort requires includes doing the conversion, > checking the results *by hand*, landing the repository, and fixing > anything that breaks once you do (including stuff that breaks in projects > you otherwise don't care about). > > Any project that can't find somebody willing to do that work (that is > what I meant by a "champion") is better off staying on SVN: we don't do > ourselves favors by carrying all the unmaintained baggage of fifteen > years worth of development forward, just for "purity" / completeness / > whatever.
+1 BTW (speaking of cruft), as someone who used/abused svn.zope.org as a generic open-source hosting service (when I should have used something like code.google.com, or bitbucket, or whatever), I wonder if there should be a process for petitioning to remove projects from the ZF repositories. (Maybe this only applies to me :) Jim -- Jim Fulton http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimfulton Jerky is better than bacon! http://zo.pe/Kqm _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )