Martijn Faassen wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
...
I'm having second thoughts about the Twisted integration for a number
of reasons:
* Twisted people actively dislike eggs. They won't eggify Twisted any
time soon.
Yes, but I think they do use distutils source releases, so I think that
shouldn't be a problem. Do their source releases not work with eggs?
Last time I checked it didn't. I checked again. First I tried this to
pull in a Twisted egg:
[buildout]
parts = devpython
[devpython]
recipe = zc.recipe.egg
interpreter = devpython
eggs = Twisted
That failed with it complaining it didn't have the ZopeInterface
installed.
What it? When did it complain?
Unfortunately zope.interface doesn't install with buildout
yet, so this won't work:
It doesn't? That's annoying. That's easy to fix and shouldn't
affect a long-term decision IMO.
[buildout]
parts = devpython
[devpython]
recipe = zc.recipe.egg
interpreter = devpython
eggs = zope.interface Twisted
even if zope.interface were downloaded and installed I'm not sure
whether Twisted's check would pass or succeed. Would zope.interface be
placed on the path during the buildout process so that Twisted would see
it?
Hm, so it was checked by setup. Dang. Well, we could hack around this
in various ways, but it wouldn't be fun.
In general, it makes me uncomfortable to be relying on there being an
egg when the project appears to have an active antipathy to easy_install
and eggs.
It would be enough to rely on their being s source release that we could
use without too much pain. Of course that remains to be seen. :)
At this stage, I certainly wouldn't use the lack of egg support as a reason
to disqualify Twisted.
* Twisted async approach doesn't really match Zope's threaded approach.
That isn't necessarily a problem. ZServer is based on an async
approach too. The impression I have, however, maybe incorrect, is that
the Twisted community isn't very interested in supporting applications
not written according to the Twisted Way.
I have the same impression. I can't blame them for that really; Zope is
no different, though of course we're not in the server business. :)
Yup.
I think that this makes their interest in WSGI, which allows someone
to use Twisted without using the twisted APIs, marginal at best.
The discussion in the blog entry on that libevent based server gave me a
bit of hope for Twisted's WSGI support, but I don't know whether any
action has been taken.
Great.
Jim
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