Matt

You are just goin' to have to take my word for it all ...

Besides, my ideas stand alone apart from any sheepskin rigamarole ...

BTW, please don't throw out any more grand challenges if you are just goin' to 
play the TEASE about addressing the relevant issues.

John LaMuth

http://www.charactervalues.com 
http://www.charactervalues.org 
http://www.charactervalues.net 
http://www.ethicalvalues.com 
http://www.ethicalvalues.info 
http://www.emotionchip.net 
http://www.global-solutions.org 
http://www.world-peace.org 
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/fairhaven/schematics.html 
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/fairhaven/behaviorism.html 
http://www.forebrain.org

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matt Mahoney 
  To: agi@v2.listbox.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:55 AM
  Subject: Re: Information theoretic approaches to AGI (was Re: [agi] The 
Necessity of Embodiment)


  John, are any of your peer-reviewed papers online? I can't seem to find 
them...


  -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]




  ----- Original Message ----
  From: John LaMuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: agi@v2.listbox.com
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 2:35:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Information theoretic approaches to AGI (was Re: [agi] The 
Necessity of Embodiment)


  Matt

  Below is a sampling of my peer reviewed conference presentations on my 
background ethical theory ...

  This should elevate me above the common "crackpot"

  #############################################

  Talks 

    a.. Presentation of a paper at ISSS 2000 (International Society for Systems 
Sciences) Conference in Toronto, Canada on various aspects of the new science 
of Powerplay Politics.
        ·     Toward a Science of Consciousness: TUCSON April 8–12, 2002 Tucson 
Convention Center, Tucson,  

               Arizona-sponsored by the Center for Consciousness 
Studies-University of Arizona (poster presentation).

        ·      John presented a poster at the 8th International Tsukaba 
Bioethics Conference at Tsukaba, 

                Japan on Feb. 15 to 17,  2003. 

        ·      John has presented his paper – “The Communicational Factors 
Underlying the Mental   

                Disorders” at the 2006 Annual Conf. of the Western 
Psychological Association at Palm Springs, CA 

  Honors

    a.. Honors Diploma for Research in Biological Sciences (June 1977) - Univ. 
of Calif. Irvine. 
    b.. John is a member of the APA and the American Philosophical Association.
  LaMuth, J. E. (1977). The Development of the Forebrain as an Elementary 
Function of    

             the Parameters of Input Specificity and Phylogenetic Age.

              J. U-grad Rsch: Bio. Sci. U. C. Irvine. (6): 274-294.

    

  LaMuth, J. E. (2000). A Holistic Model of Ethical Behavior Based Upon a 
Metaperspectival 

              Hierarchy of the Traditional Groupings of Virtue, 

              Values, & Ideals. Proceedings of the 44th Annual World Congress 
for the Int.        

              Society for the Systems Sciences – Toronto.

     

  LaMuth, J. E. (2003). Inductive Inference Affective Language Analyzer 

              Simulating AI. - US Patent # 6,587,846.

  LaMuth, J. E. (2004). Behavioral Foundations for the Behaviourome / Mind 
Mapping 

              Project. Proceedings for the  Eighth International Tsukuba 
Bioethics 

              Roundtable,Tsukuba, Japan.

  LaMuth, J. E. (2005). A Diagnostic Classification of the Emotions: A 
Three-Digit Coding 

              System for Affective Language. Lucerne Valley: Fairhaven.



  LaMuth, J. E. (2007). Inductive Inference Affective Language Analyzer 

              Simulating Transitional AI. - US Patent # 7,236,963.



  ******************************

  Although I currently have no working model, I am collaborating on a working 
prototype.



  I was responding to your challenge for ...an example of a mathematical, 
software, biological, or physical example of RSI, or at least a plausible 
argument that one could be created



  I feel I have proposed a plausible argument, and considering the great stakes 
involved concerning ethical safeguards for AI, an avenue worthy of critique ...



  More on this in the last half of )
  www.angelfire.com/rnb/fairhaven/specs.html 


  John LaMuth

  www.ethicalvalues.com 








    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Matt Mahoney 
    To: agi@v2.listbox.com 
    Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 7:30 AM
    Subject: Re: Information theoretic approaches to AGI (was Re: [agi] The 
Necessity of Embodiment)


    John, I have looked at your patent and various web pages. You list a lot of 
nice sounding ethical terms (honor, love, hope, peace, etc) but give no details 
on how to implement them. You have already admitted that you have no 
experimental results, haven't actually built anything, and have no other 
results such as refereed conference or journal papers describing your system. 
If I am wrong about this, please let me know.


    -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 




    ----- Original Message ----
    From: John LaMuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: agi@v2.listbox.com
    Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:21:30 PM
    Subject: Re: Information theoretic approaches to AGI (was Re: [agi] The 
Necessity of Embodiment)



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Matt Mahoney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: <agi@v2.listbox.com>
    Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:46 PM
    Subject: Re: Information theoretic approaches to AGI (was Re: [agi] The 
Necessity of Embodiment)


    I have challenged this list as well as the singularity and SL4 lists to 
come up with an example of a mathematical, software, biological, or physical 
example of RSI, or at least a plausible argument that one could be created, and 
nobody has. To qualify, an agent has to modify itself or create a more 
intelligent copy of itself according to an intelligence test chosen by the 
original. The following are not examples of RSI:
    > 
    > 1. Evolution of life, including humans.
    > 2. Emergence of language, culture, writing, communication technology, and 
computers.

    > -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    > 
    ###########################################
    *****************************************

    Matt

    Where have you been for the last 2 months ??

    I had been talking then about my 2 US Patents for ethical/friendly AI
    along lines of a recursive simulation targeting language (topic 2) above.

    This language agent employs feedback loops and LTM to increase 
comprehension and accuracy
    (and BTW - resolves the ethical safeguard problems for AI) ...

    No-one yet has proven me wrong ?? Howsabout YOU ???

    More at
    www.angelfire.com/rnb/fairhaven/specs.html


    John LaMuth

    www.ethicalvalues.com 



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