That's a fair comment. As we are mostly talking about "maintenance", I don't wait for any new big features in the short term. As said, the main concern for these guys is about jclouds as an important dependency in their project.
I can't speak on their behalf, but I assume Pulsar and Brooklyng guys (at least) want to maintain jclouds alive as dependency. Personally, I prefer to find other approaches (and it's what we do in Apache Sunny and Apache Karaf). Regards JB On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 6:55 PM Ignasi Barrera <ignasi.barr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's not about me, it's about people volunteering actually stepping up > and starting to take action, and that is not happening. > > You say: 'After some months, we will definitely see if the project is still > alive or not." > It's been 2 months now. In your opinion, how many more months of inaction > should we wait, and what's the reasoning behind that number? > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 6:01 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > > > If you don't want to continue on jclouds (I fully understand this), > > fair enough. But if people still want to maintain it, I don't see any > > issue there. > > > > Is a fork better ? I don't think so. Because, it might happen if we > > retire the project. > > > > As I proposed earlier, if the current PMC members don't want to > > continue on jclouds, but we have potential volunteers to take over, I > > think it's fair to try. Apache is community driven, if we have new > > people in the jclouds community, willing to help, we could be > > "welcoming". > > After some months, we will definitely see if the project is still alive or > > not. > > > > If you absolutely want to retire the project, I'm with you, and then > > pulsar or brooklyn (or another project) will do a fork probably. > > > > Regards > > JB > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 3:38 PM Ignasi Barrera <n...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with Gaul's comments. > > > > > > If people wants to help, worth to see if it actually happens ;) > > > > > > > > > > It's been 2 months since the proposal of retiring the project and to > > date, > > > nothing real happened beyond "I'm in" comments. > > > If at the time of discussing the project retirement, this is all the > > energy > > > that is around to maintain it, I don't think it is a setup for success > > and > > > agree with Gaul that we will better serve users by retiring the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. Geoff, really appreciate your honesty in accounting for your > > bandwidth! > >