On Sun, 2017-02-26 at 15:46 +0100, x...@freenetproject.org wrote:
> On Saturday, February 25, 2017 11:16:07 AM Florent Daigniere wrote:
> > [snip.]
> > 
> > > > I'd really like us to use AWS for as much as possible re:
> > > > hosting.  It has a lot of benefits, one of which is powerful
> > > > multi-user
> > > > support.
> > > 
> > > Well I really don't care where we host as long as it provides what
> > > we
> > > need :)
> > > 
> > > I'd like to evaluate that for AWS, but as said to be able to do so
> > > please tell us which package we'd be using. Thanks!
> > 
> > That's not how it's going to work. I don't need you to make more
> > requirements up on the way (like preserving the wiki's links)...
> 
> Sorry, you misunderstood me:
> I don't see requiring link preservation as a requirement.
> I  merely realized that our *other* requirements, namely mailing lists
> and mail, will likely result in having to choose a hoster which will
> support link preservation as a side effect anyway.
> 
> > Explain and formalise the requirements 
> 
> Mailing lists and mail must keep working.
> 


If you want to be useful, compile a list of *all* the requirements;
that's what we need.

> > and let whoever does the sysadmin
> > (currently yours truely) find the right solution; then you can
> > contribute to the process and point out which of the requirements
> > are
> > not fulfilled by the solution picked.
> > Not the other way around.
> > Alternatively, takeover the sysadmin duties over too.
> 
> As you just requested, I would have just asked you as the sysadmin
> whether the 
> product you chose can provide that, but then I realized that whenever
> I ask 
> you for something you remark that you don't want others to impose work
> upon 
> you. Thus I offered to figure it out myself.
> Now that also seems to be not OK with you, you're asking me to take
> over 
> sysadmin duties - which I had also offered in this thread and you
> didn't say 
> anything about it.
> 
> Please leave *some* way for people to participate in this discussion
> in a 
> fruitful way - either tell us whether the Amazon product you want can
> provide 
> mailing lists and mail forwarding and perhaps htaccess files as a side
> effect; 
> or tell us what the product is so we can figure it out on our own.
> Denying both to answer questions and to give information so I can
> answer them 
> to myself won't help any of us, including you.


Heh; I have never asked you for help. It's great that you're proposing
to help but I have the right to decline your offer. Right now we need
"doing", time for debates/arguments is over.

Florent
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