I realized I kind of agree with Musk about the benefits of more isolation.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1625732016896458755 However, national boundaries are not the right cutoff. Any community or cult is the potential nucleation of a mind virus. I expect his advocacy above is about creating chaos so that people such as himself are the only ones that have the resources to influence governments. A particularly virulent mind virus (like white supremacy, or 09A) could cross national boundaries and not be impeded by law enforcement. What does the world look like if P% of the population has broad resistance to mind viruses and (100-P)% does not? If P is <= 10, maybe better to fan the flames of crazy and let the chips fall where they may. Perhaps that is how Musk sees it. Marcus -----Original Message----- From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 6:37 AM To: FriAM <friam@redfish.com> Subject: [FRIAM] cults It's been awhile since I've run across a new-to-me cult. But 09A certainly qualifies as a meaty one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/28/new-york-satanic-cult-764-fbi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1057610X.2023.2195065 I can't reconcile the apparent contradiction between fascism and individuality. I guess the closest some analysts come is to suggest that they're only aligning with the fascists, for now, to bring about the end of the current aeon and the colonization of the galaxy. I guess it reminds me of the "no enemies to the [right|left]" rhetoric: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/30/conservative-christopher-rufo-florida-twitter-debate But otherwise, O9A's ... "beliefs and structure" seem incoherent enough to write them off as just too stupid to care about. However one author nailed it in saying that there are plenty of both impressionable and antisocial people using the internet, susceptible to the "sinister" allure, to cause real damage. -- glen -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
