I carefully listened to Musk's speech as provided in the reference and attempted to reconcile Marcus's comments with it. Here are my observations:
a) Marcus states, "I realized I kind of agree with Musk about the benefits of more isolation." However, I interpret Musk's stance differently. He appears to be cautioning against excessive global unity rather than advocating for more isolation. In Musk's own words, "I think we should be a little bit concerned about becoming too much of a single world government." To me, this doesn't imply a call for greater isolation, but merely warns about a single world government. Am I being overly simplistic in my understanding? b) Marcus suggests, "I believe his advocacy may be aimed at fostering chaos." While I may strongly disagree with many of Musk's actions and statements, I don't share the belief that he desires chaos. I recognize that sometimes one must connect the dots and draw conclusions without concrete evidence, so I don't fault Marcus for his perspective. However, it's crucial to emphasize that I have not come across any evidence supporting the idea that Musk intends to create chaos. On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 18:23, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: > I realized I kind of agree with Musk about the benefits of more > isolation. > > https://twitter.com/i/status/1625732016896458755 > > However, national boundaries are not the right cutoff. Any community or > cult is the potential nucleation of a mind virus. > I expect his advocacy above is about creating chaos so that people such as > himself are the only ones that have the resources to influence governments. > A particularly virulent mind virus (like white supremacy, or 09A) could > cross national boundaries and not be impeded by law enforcement. > > What does the world look like if P% of the population has broad resistance > to mind viruses and (100-P)% does not? > If P is <= 10, maybe better to fan the flames of crazy and let the chips > fall where they may. Perhaps that is how Musk sees it. > > Marcus > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen > Sent: Sunday, October 1, 2023 6:37 AM > To: FriAM <friam@redfish.com> > Subject: [FRIAM] cults > > It's been awhile since I've run across a new-to-me cult. But 09A certainly > qualifies as a meaty one: > > > https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/28/new-york-satanic-cult-764-fbi > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles > https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1057610X.2023.2195065 > > I can't reconcile the apparent contradiction between fascism and > individuality. I guess the closest some analysts come is to suggest that > they're only aligning with the fascists, for now, to bring about the end of > the current aeon and the colonization of the galaxy. > > I guess it reminds me of the "no enemies to the [right|left]" rhetoric: > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/30/conservative-christopher-rufo-florida-twitter-debate > > But otherwise, O9A's ... "beliefs and structure" seem incoherent enough to > write them off as just too stupid to care about. However one author nailed > it in saying that there are plenty of both impressionable and antisocial > people using the internet, susceptible to the "sinister" allure, to cause > real damage. > > -- > glen > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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