Re: [CTRL] Madeline Colleen:Secretary of Hate
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- This is a pretty good psychological profile of Madeline Albright...the reluctant Zionist. What do you think of this one Nicky? Colleen Dear Colleen: Everything that you babble is sheer lunacy. Take your Jew-hating ass back to the Sons Of Losers list you came from. Love Pennie __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Dalai Lama's message for 2000
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- William, It sounds like a replica of Maitreya's advice to us through Benjamin Creme. Take care of the environment, take religion out of education... But this conforms he is being influenced by himyep mass genocode as advocated by their Et masters.. Nicky Dali 6. Lastly, one of the greatest challenges today is the population explosion. Unless we are able to tackle this issue effectively we will be confronted with the problem of the natural resources being inadequate for all the human beings on this earth. We need to seriously look into these matters that concern us all if we are to look forward to the future with some hope. http://www.diakrisis.org/un_occultism.htm THE CHALLENGE OF THE 21ST CENTURY Maitreyas Mission by Benjamin Creme. How is the damage already perpetrated against the earth going to be healed? (August/September 1994) When the Lord Maitreya works openly, this will set in motion a dynamism which is presently lacking in the approach to these problems. The nations have known for half a century about world hunger - the non-governrnental agencies bring this question before humanity over and over again and little or nothing is done about it. At the same time, scientists show the nations the damage we are doing to the planet, the ecological damage resulting from the over-use and misuse of resources; the poisoning of the land, the rivers, the oceans and the air we breathe. The number one priority immediately following the Appearance (presumably with Project Blue beam and HAARP help -Nicky) and acceptance by humanity will be the saving of the starving millions of the world; Maitreya will advocate a crash progrannne of aid. After that, the number one priority will be the saving of the planet - the changing of our political and economic structures which will enable a sustainable economy to be created for example, the world's primeval forests, on which we depend our very oxygen let alone the medicinal plants which are by the pharmaceutical industries today, will be main-ned. Every man, woman and child on the planet, I would say above four years of age, has to be engaged in this. Maitreya will recommend - and there are groups now all over the world responding to this idea - a sustainable economy: we will have to live more simply so that all of us can live, and so that our children's children, on into the filture, can live on Planet Earth. The can sustain approximately 3,5 billion people with comfort. moment we have 5,5 billion and will have an estimated 10 in a very few years. With the transformation of the ecostructure, when people will have the ability to live decent, dignified lives - the kind of life we take for granted -find that the incidence of large families will diminish, even World, where it is mainly an insurance for old age. Abortion What is the attitude of Hierarchy to abortion, especially in the light of the militant anti-abortion group which has recently come Over to the UK from America? (July/August 1993) Heirarchy is made up of very intelligent, very wise people. They are Masters because They have mastered life and They have control over all aspects of life open to us on this planet. Being intelligent and wise, They do not take narrow views on so They would not take the fanatical anti-abortion stance of the fundamentalist Christians in America, of whom the group who have come to England seem to be representatives of. These groups are becoming more vociferous in the United States as President Clinton has promised to ease the laws relating abortion. The Masters of the Hierarchy know that there are pros cons on most issues; not only that but They know the meaning and purpose of life. They know that the purpose the creation of a foetus is to serve as the vehicle for an incoming soul. They also know that at this time there are more created than are necessary for incoming souls. Therefore, are a large number of souls of a not very advanced into incarnation because of the plethora of foetuses through the misuse of the sex function. The Hierarchy are not "for" abortion - to Them any killing life at any time is to be regretted but very' often They abortion as the lesser of two evils. It is also evil to bring incarnation a Being who is unwanted and unloved, and there.. many foetuses who grow up unwanted, unloved and uncared Many are born with only one parent, in situations where would be far better not incarnating ahead of their time, by the magnetic force of the created foetus. In some cases, fore, the Masters would advise against abortion; at other They would recornrnend that it go ahead. In that case it should possible, take place before the fourth week of pregnancy. the fourth and fifth week the soul actually begins to grip its vehicle, so any abortion that takes place should preferably be before the fourth to-flfth week. What happens to the soul of a foetus that is terminated then? (July/August
[CTRL] Fw: [MC] New book on HAARP, ewar, mind control
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- -Original Message- From: Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, 20 January 2000 21:13 Subject: [MC] New book on HAARP, ewar, mind control Nick Begish, author, Angels Don't Play This HAARP, has written a new book, Earth Rising, with HAARP updates and covering electronic warfare, mind control, nonlethal weapons and other issues: http://www.earthpulse.com Nick discussed the book on the Art Bell show Tuesday night, Jan. 18. Program summary: http://www.artbell.com/topics.html Audio archive: http://www.artbell.com/audio.html __ Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List info: www.topica.com/lists/mc. _ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Maitreya's emergence - Mass deception series No 1
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- By the way NASA Blue Beam and HAARP oops I mean Maitreya will be overshadowing the world for only 35 mins, when the Illuminati finally get their act together, on the Day of Declaration. So hopefully we won't get too much brain damage during our 'religious' experience and hopefully it will be good weather for the Blue Beam holograms. Nicky http://www.diakrisis.org/un_occultism.htm Taken from the book Maitreya's Mission by Benjamin Creme. Alice Bailey founded the Lucifer Trust which she changed to the Lucis Trust - what did she mean by LUCIFER? (April 1995) Lucifer is the name of a great Angel, not an upstart in heaven who revolted against God and was put down into the nether regions as the Devil. That is a complete misinterpretation. Lucifer means light, and comes from the Latin lux, lucis, name of the Angel who ensouls the human kingdom: every person, therefore, is a fragment of Lucifer. According to the esoteric teaching, the human souls individualized 18 and half million years ago. Lucifer, the Oversoul, diversified itself; and each fragment became individualized. These individualized human souls descended from the soul plane into incarnation. The 'fall' of Adam and Eve is the symbolic representation of this event; it has with the Devil or with Lucifer as an evil entity, but with the divine nature of humanity itself as souls. The environment is so polluted now; we have the greenhouse effect and other major problems. How can we come to terms with this situation? (July/August 1993) The Masters of our Spiritual Hierarchy, Who are coming into the with Maitreya, have the technology to neutralize the green-effect, the pollution of the atmosphere, even the effects of radiation. We have to wind down the fission process of creating energy. ·'. What I am not advocating, or even suggesting, is returning to the old days humanity living in pastoral conditiuons and so on. We will still have a prosperous, well-balanced,modern lifestyle with all the technology which we are capable of. We shall be given the blueprints of technology which at moment we cannot even begin to imagine. It would boggle the mind of the most advanced scientist. ( I guess its that old chip in the hand -Nicky) But we are not going to be waiting for Maitreya and the Masters to give us the technology to make these changes. We cannot just and say: "They are going to give us the technology to up the planet, so we do not have to do anything." (Aug 1993) When we accept the principle of sharing, and when that process is out in the world, we will be given the gift of new technologies. I do not mean that we will be given an instrument how to use it. We will be given the secrets of how to create this technology. Then our advanced scientists will develop it. To Serve Anew The following article is an edited vervion of the talk by Creme given at the July 1994 Transmission Meditation conferences in San Francisco, USA, and in September in the Netherlands. IThe talk was based on the above article by Benjamin Creme's Master, 'To Serve Anew' Kali Yuga "Firstly, men will awaken to a new situation, one unfamiliar and strange: nothing similar will have experience of anyone alive." I do not know whether you have thought of it, but this is manifestly true, When Maitreya speaks as the World Teacher for the new age, enlightening humanity with certain idea students of the esoteric tradition, we take for granted which we have familiarized ourselves in the process known His presence, most people are going to have an extrordinary revelation. The world as a whole does not know the Hierarchy exists. They have heard that the Christ exists living up in heaven in some remote place in the sky until the end of the world to return on a cloud. That, is the general expectation of orthodox Christians. The other religions have their equally unlikely scenarios for the coming of the Teacher into our midst. Muslims are awaiting Mahdi who, likewise, can only come on Judgement the end of the world; and into Damascus, the world", at noon, when He will appear suddenly an come. Give Me bread. Give Me clothes." Hindus interpretation, awaiting Kalki Avatar or the return at the end of Kali Yuga. I heard the other day that Sai Baba had announced recently that Kali Yuga had ended, was coming now to an end. He had said that several years ago, and we published it in Share International, but we are always ahead of events! My Master affirmed, as did Swami Premananda, that Kali Yuga was indeed ending and we published that at the same time. However, there has been a rumour, as always, coming from Puttaparti, that Sai Baba has said that Kali Yuga has now ended, and that this week, from
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Madeline Colleen:Secretary of Hate
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- pennie hammons, For your information, Colleen was on this list YEARS before you. You are the one who has come from somewhere else. I believe Kris is still the listowner even though you seem to think you are now in charge. Again, this is personal, off-topic and not nearly as cute as you think it is. Please take personal messages off list. A review of the rules will advise you to always be civil. This falls very short of that. You are wasting a lot of people's time in these lame attempts to get attention. And not for the first time and not on the first list, is it? Amelia - Original Message - From: "pennie hammons" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Madeline Colleen:Secretary of Hate -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- This is a pretty good psychological profile of Madeline Albright...the reluctant Zionist. What do you think of this one Nicky? Colleen Dear Colleen: Everything that you babble is sheer lunacy. Take your Jew-hating ass back to the Sons Of Losers list you came from. Love Pennie __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] News?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- - Original Message - From: "NewsHawk Inc." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 12:18 PM Subject: URGENT!/FBI-Indian standoff; Pine Ridge Rez! 1.16.00 URGENT!/FBI-Indian standoff; Pine Ridge Rez! Forward this message as far and widely as possible -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Feds are putting major heat on a group of Indians at the Pine Ridge reservation who were attempting to demonstrate against corruption and malfeasance within the heavily fed-infiltrated "official" tribal council there. The FBI is said to have been on the scene "INSTANTLY". In light of the TOTAL media blackout enforced by feds in regard to this situation, there are serious concerns on the part of Native Americans and others of some kind of severe, Waco-style tactics being employed at Pine Ridge. It's crucial to help ensure that eventuality can never come to pass; and to do that, we must get the word out regarding what's going on at Pine Ridge right now. So PLEASE, help. NewsHawk® Inc. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Original Message Subject: News Flash! FBI/Indian standoff at Pine Ridge Rez! Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:26:15 -0800 From: "Jane Beckman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's one that's in-process! I just received a call from one of my Native American friends, and things have gone critical on the Pine Ridge Reservation. At 2 pm today (Sunday, 1/16), protestors occupied the tribal offices on the Pine Ridge reservation, protesting abuses and embezzlement by the Tribal Council, including $7 million in embezzled funds. Suddenly, the FBI is there like a duck on a june bug. They are attempting to get word out as fast and as widely as possible, as there has been a media lockdown, and there is a standoff between the Feds and the Indian protestors that could get very ugly. There are fears of Waco-type actions, especially with the media lockdown. They want this one put out far and wide, to hopefully get some attention before something turns very ugly. The phone number for the tribal offices building where these folks are standing off the Feds is (605)867-5821. I've been told they can keep folks apprised of what is going on... at least until the phones get cut. I haven't called simply because I hear some of the local activists are calling, folks who might be able to do more than I can in California. Something is up, because the FBI isn't usually at scenes of conflicts so instantly. Could it have something to do with records they are attempting to have opened, relative to corruption on the reservation? What's really going on, here? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homo Teacher Charged with Having Sex with a Minor
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- First of all...he wasnt a teacher. (This is happening 15 miles from me.) It was much worse he was a dorm advisor...dorm dad, and this happened at a church school... The San Marcos Baptist Academy in Texas. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homo Teacher Charged with Having Sex with a Minor
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The story is about homosexual rape No it's not. It's about an act of prostitution that was interupted by the police. Agreed. But according to some jurisdictions, sexual activity with a minor is deemed statutory rape. Don't know if it applies in this case or not... And it would be just as heinous had the minor been female... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Re: [SonsofLiberty] Group Calls Lee Banner Burning a Hate Crime (washingtonpost (http://washingtonp
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colleen Jones) Well this keeps up and many will get what they want..they would rather celebrate day Martin Luther King was shot... Prior to Kings massive organized marches wih union participation and UAW is where it really all began, using this Union in particular.Walter Reuther and Roy Reuther were primary instigators in this civil rights fights stuff with Pentagon controlling situationon the drawing board, "absorb colored race".the melting pot, the scum put in the pot and boiled - the flesh pot... Leonard Woodcock was first labor leader into CFR followed by this Jerry Wurfthen murder of Kennedy, who was not to have been elected..I like Ike and I like Eich .two diriving forces.so the Feds hire Jean Dixon, a political propagandist to mark the Kennedy family for murder over and over planting seeds of destruction and murder, for JFK and RFK and George Wallace and Ronald Reagan WERE NOT AND NEVER WOULD BE IN THE COUNCIL OF FOREIGN RELATIONS OR NWO Communist American Style Conspiracy. AFSCME (American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees) used blacks to gain control into government . King then sent down to appointed death, playing Moses keyed to the bible code..King climbed the mountain and met sudden deathknocked off like a Moses..from his I Have a Dream speech to the end "Ive Seen the Promised Land", King had very few original words.but no way John F. Kennedy was in on that conspiracy - these people called him a Fascist.the Nightingale and the Rose. That Dream of Dreams Shall be Slain.and check out some of these dates re the Civil Rights Tribe of Gad, the Over Comers and Black is Beauiful crapand see real conspiracy which is once again materializing with this NAACP Zionist controlled element as chief instigators. The stage is being set for another murderfor this regular routine of murder of President of the United States.the Asrologers Mark of Doom, for they are on to this scenarioonly it just came out that Jean Dixon worked for Feds while marking Kennedys for murderor, did J. Edgar Hoover keep his promise that the bible code would be investigated and perhaps did he personally infiltrate Jean Dixon/s Children to Children.for I was told that the FBI would not involve me in this stuff...yet J. Edgar Hoover was murdered because of words spoken by Walter Cronkite.the night J. Edgar Hoover was to die, I tried to warn them. When he died on Communist Law Day, May 1the night before Walter Cronkite had released that J. Edgar Hoover had given LBJ sex files for nightie night reading..he did so by Executive Order, no doubt.for LBJ was trying to get goods on all his opponens.Hoover died lying on floor by his bed =- had just had physical was was A Okay.later, LGB died beside his bed, same way and I thought who the hell cares...cui bono. I met LBJ and Humphrey...these men had both strange eyeslooked right through you, saw nothing.Humphrey's eyes were dead, cloudedlike powdered, no lighthis face smiled he laughedbut his yes did not. What kind of training are these people getting now...they smirk and smile and murder at the same timeas though, well what you going to do about it. You have Gore turning loose NAACP on white public and White Christians and Southerners..the cycle begins..anyone who is elected to the office of President who is not part of the CFR/NWO/Zionist Master Plan will be murderedlike JFK ... and this too is why JFK Jr. and Princess Diana were murdered.and it comes out now that Dodi Fayed was descendent of Saudi Arabian Royl Family So this time they murdered off before they became threat..did not wait until JFK Jr and Princess Diana became serious threat to their conspiracy for NWO..can you imagine the tremour sent through ugly Zionists like Kissinger, Clinton, Gore, Albright, Cohen, Rubenthese ugly people - compared to young JFK Jr.who was repelled by Blair and Clinton, and backed away..you could see the jealousy and hatred in the eyes of these killers as they looked at their quarry whom they knew would soon be dead...notice Hiliary at the big day and the NASA rocket did not go off? They want to stand in limelight of JFK and JFK Jr., but this light is repelled and vanquished by their mere presence. To say I hate Clinton, Gore, Albright, Cohen, Dees, Wesley Clarkto say I hate them is not enough..they are beyond hating - for their deeds are so evil it will take a greater power than we have on earth to destroy these people.but I believe evil begets evil..their day soon comes. I was a Kennedy Girl and met JFK; a man you could look up to.he turned his back on Walter Cronkite as JFK Jr. turned his back on Clinton and Blair...Cronkite never forgot that moment when he ran up to JFK night of Inaugural Ball, and JFK
[CTRL] Fwd: [Holy_War] JDL - Jewish Defence League - Jewis Militia Training in NY
The Russian Jewish Mafia now in Columbus area; they also murdered remember, Bill Cosby's son and got caught..they replace Meyer Lansky's old henchmen who went on a killing spree in Columbusinvolved were Jewish Doctors and a Jewish Hit Man, the Hit Man dressed as County Sheriff called upon and murdered a third Doctor, a black doctor by name of Walter Bond.the one doctor was an Assistant County Coroner n weekends when a lot of dead bodies were taken to the coroners office..and I am not forgetting that these people threatened me some years back, and Sybil Leek told me the one was CIAhad been in prison cell with Hoffa for one yeargun charges, and also they were into drugs and caused shooting of Larry Flyntsomeday Flynt will figure that one out. So what do you expect when our FBI Freeh is having dinner with KGB; we have Zionists in control of our White House and a President who sold out his country years ago to the NWO bunch.and remember this, not all Zionists are Jewsthey come in many colors and shades of red. They are here while Zionists try to disarm white America and Moslems and Militia.Morris Dees and ADL work with FBI marking and putting Christians, Moslems and Militia on Hit lists.it is all there in the open, yet they permit Jewish Mafia to Move into Columbus again... We had long body bag counts until that bunch here was caught.they only wanted to castrate the black doctor, and make it look like Right Wing KKK type thing; but fumbled and the hit man just blew them away..nice people we have in our government now... So they move back in..see how they dropped the murder of Bill Cosby's son? No mention of this Russian Mafia hitand was this drug related also" Get a load of the floosie beside Cosby's car.think this woman was a lady? Until we clean out the FBI and BATF and get rid of this element, watch body bags grow and grow..and they put a price on Osama bin Laden's head for something this bunch did Madeline Albright.mass murderer of Balkans..Clinton the disgraced president blackmailed by the Mossad? And little Monica on TV, making big bucks at the expense of this country? Sweet little girl.this "girl" is nothing more than a prostitute used to get at the President..let us say she nailed him while the Mossad tapped his phone lines, and between Larry Flynt, Carville, and Clinton vs. Congressit is checkmatewho will they murder next? Colleen Who will be slaughtered next? Indians, Amish, but I say as Mordecai so wished upon Hamon, so let it come unto Mordecai. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exclusive to THE SPOTLIGHT, July 27, 1998, Page 10 JDL MILITIA IN NEW YORK STATE CATSKILL MOUNTAINS If you happen to be vacationing in the Catskill Mountains or upper New York state or the mountains of neighboring Connecticut this summer and hear the rattle of heavy gunfire nearby, it is not the U.S. military in training or some "right wing" militia group on maneuvers. Most likely you will be hearing a training session of members of the terrorist Jewish Defense League (JDL) or its spinoff, the Jewish Defense organization (JDO). And, those shooters might not be able to speak English very well. You could, in fact, be confronted by a youthful member of the JDL or JDO who is more than likely recent immigrants from Russia, living in the United States as a supposed refugee. It is more than likely he will be from the Brighton Beach section of New York City, an underworld haven for Jewish Russian refugees comprising what has become known as the "Russian Mafia." The FBI says the outlaw organization stretches all the way to Moscow and is involved in virtually every sort of crime from smuggling (even nuclear materials) to contract murders. TRAIN IN MOUNTAINS In upstate New York, the JDL and no have been training for several years in the Catskill Mountains of Sullivan County, a short drive northwest of New York City not far from the Pennsylvania border. Of course the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which has been screeching for years about the dangers to America presented by U.S. militia groups, doesn't have much to say about the JDL and no "troopers," who have been terrorizing residents of the Sullivan County area, particularly around the small resort village of Livingston Manor. Nor will you find the JDL or the JDO listed as terrorist organizations in U.S. government reports on worldwide and domestic terrorist activity. In fact, Irving Shapiro, vice chairman of the ADL's national volunteer commission, doesn't consider them dangerous at all--certainly not like U.S. civilian militias. 'They believe they have a mission and a purpose to protect Jews," Shapiro recently told the Middletown, New York, Sunday Record, which ran a front-page feature story about the young trainees, titled "For Jewish Militants, Catskills are a Training Ground." Nothing has been heard at all from Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the New York Democrat
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- It doesn't matter what it is, we won't be here to see it. But I disagree, it is physical thing. [Rev 13:16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark IN their right hand, or IN their foreheads: So, you're saying that's not physical? Rev 16:2] And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell *a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.* So you're saying these people that take this "not physical mark" will somehow get a sore from something that's not physical? It's obvious it's physical, and it's going to cause health problems according to Rev 16:2. Why do you believe what you believe about the mark? What scriptures do you have for support of this theory? Jamie You are absolutely right, Eagle1. The "mark" is not a physical thing. People are so worried about being forced to get a smartcard or chip implant...ridiculous! Even if this chip were to be used as an identification, it only menas that technology has improved. If we aren't going to burn for having a social security number, this is no different. I just wonder how many people would end up as refugees or dead by insisting on not getting a chip, if it were ever required. Identification or credit is not a crime against God. What did Jesus say about the coin with Caesar's image on it? Or what did Paul say about obeying the earthly rulers, for God put them in power? Put your trust in God, or you might be "marked" by the One who really counts. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [N.A.] False Opposition and Lack of Progress
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Jim Condit Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [N.A.] False Opposition and Lack of Progress Date: Sunday, January 16, 2000 10:08 PM www.networkamerica.org "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin Jan 16, 2000 NA e-wire Todays NA e-wire concerns the concept of False Opposition. The concept of False Opposition explains why certain organizations have followed a defeatist course over the last quarter century. We believe its the major reason why the vote counting process has been able to be taken out of the hands of the American people without so much as a peep from the organizations that Americans thought they were depending on to protect our freedoms. And also the reason why concerned Americans have not been told about how to use the precinct system to take back the government. Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following quotation, The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves. Now, there are two ways to lead your own opposition. One is to create the group in the first place and that is possible if you have enough money. In this way you can even have someone leading your phony operation who believes in the cause. This leader however, will get the message one way or another that if he goes beyond certain bounds, his funding will be cut off or he will be fired. The second way to create false opposition is to takeover an existing organization, which started out sincere, by making it so dependent on your funding, that its leaders also learn to stay within certain bounds. Real life Example: Howard Phillips, leader of the Conservative Caucus and Presidential candidate for the Constitution Party this year, reported in 1996 that the National Right to Life Committee accepted $450,000 from the Republican National Committee. During the 1996 Presidential Campaign, NRTL worked for and eventually endorsed the clearly pro-abortion Bob Dole (including deliberately falsifying its so-called Scorecard -- in conjunction with Christian Coalition by excluding all of Doles many pro-abortion votes). This meant that NRTL had to work against another 1996 GOP candidate who had a real shot at the Presidency, the clearly and seriously pro-life Pat Buchanan. As I understand it, the National Right to Life Committee has accepted a similar amount this year, and are softening up their supporters through their national newspaper to support the clearly pro-abortion George W. Bush (pro-abortion in the sense that he is committed to continuing the status quo with a little pro-life rhetoric along the way on marginal issues; he refuses to commit to appoint pro-life judges, and he refuses to commit to appoint a pro-life vice presidential candidate, making him the very epitome of "pro-abortion" by pre-1996 NRTL standards). Quoting Phillips again in one of the recent headlines in his Issues and Strategy Bulletins: National Right to Life (some of the time) Committee warns against voting Pro-life. This is one example of a group that has become false opposition to the political forces running this country. Many of these conservative groups are dependent on funding from the likes of Richard Mellon Scaiffe of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Mellon Scaiffe, as you may recall, is the funder of anti-Clinton investigations but also of coercive and deceptively imposed birth control implants and drugs in the Philippines and Vietnam. Now, lest we get too long in this e-wire, let me simply assert a few examples of groups which have shown the signs of being false opposition divided into two camps: Group 1: Set up as False Opposition: Heritage Foundation; Weekly Standard; and anything to do with Bill Kristol or John Podoretz; Empower America. Group 2: Have been compromised in some way so that they now are effectively false opposition: National Right to Life; Christian Coalition; National Rifle Association. This explains why these and other establishment and professional conservative organizations do not seem to have the brains to see that when it comes to changing the law through electing enough good candidates, all is futile if the vote count is riggable by parties unknown (but easily guessed at) behind the software program instructing the election night computers what to do. Organizations such as the League of Women Voters, Common Cause, the NAACP, the Rainbow Coalition, and the Anti-Defamation League of Bnai Brth are organizations perceived to be mainstream or left by the general public, and which pose as being interested in justice. However, such groups have never and we believe would never bring up the inherent vote fraud dangers in the current
Re: [CTRL] Madeline Colleen:Secretary of Hate
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 1/20/00 12:17:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Colleen: Everything that you babble is sheer lunacy. Take your Jew-hating ass back to the Sons Of Losers list you came from. Love Pennie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Information Age Funnies
From "This Modern World" (cartoon) (c) by Tom Tomorrow, Jan 19, 2000 Panel 1: Hyped-up grinning yuppies Biff and Wanda over a cup of coffee at Starbucks: Wanda: "Have you heard, Biff? America Online and Time Warner are merging!" Biff: "You mean the world's largest provider of Internet access is joining forces with the world's largest media conglomerate? Why, that's TERRIFIC!" Panel 2: Wanda: "Just imagine the benefits for consumers such as ourselves! AOL will be able to link to Time magazine cover stories hyping Warner Brothers movies--" Biff: "--and Larry King can interview everybody involved!" Panel 3: Wanda: "The world is one step closer to a SINGLE SOURCE of news, information, and entertainment!" Biff: "I always found all those different company names terribly confusing!" Panel 4: Wanda: "Oh, Biff -- wouldn't it be wonderful if AOL/Time Warner merged with MICROSOFT?" Biff: "You're a crazy dreamer, Wanda -- but that's why I love you!"
[CTRL] Fwd: Robber Barons Steal the Information Age
Aldous Huxley wrote: "A really efficient totalitarian state
would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political
bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves
who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.
To make them love it is the task assigned, in present-day
totalitarian states, to ministries of propaganda, newspaper
editors and schoolteachers. But their methods are still crude and
unscientific."
But that was written in 1946, half a century ago ...
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LEARNING TO LOVE BIG BROTHER
by Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman
San Francisco Bay Guardian, Jan. 19, 2000
A new century calls for new thinking: More mergers, please!
BRING 'EM ON.
A few years --even a few weeks-- ago, we might have opposed
the AOL-Time Warner merger.
But now we're ready to leave 20th-century thinking behind.
We recognize that this merger has "synergies that make some
observers drool," as the Wall Street Journal explained. AOL will
highlight "InStyle" magazine? Moviefone will pitch Warner Bros.
movies? Time Warner will include AOL disks in promotional
mailings? That's progress, baby!
In the past we might have echoed the concerns of those who
worried that the merger might interfere with open access to
high-speed Internet connections. AOL has been a leading proponent
of open access -- meaning those who control high-speed Internet
access through cable systems or other means don't have the power
to discriminate against Internet service providers that they do
not control or favor. In buying Time Warner, AOL suddenly
acquires one of the largest cable systems in the country, and
gains a material interest in opposing open access.
But that's OK. We're satisfied by AOL's verbal commitment
that it will voluntarily permit open access in the cable systems
it will control (though Time Warner currently has contractual
obligations through 2001 to favor Roadrunner Internet service).
A few months ago we might have agreed with media critics
like George Gerbner, who say that Goliaths like AOL-Time Warner
undermine media diversity because they are so big that they'll
have a vested interest in almost any issue.
Now, we say, "C'mon George." AOL Chief Steve Case says he
understands and is eager to learn more about the importance of
journalistic integrity.
Not along ago we might have sympathized with the views of
Robert McChesney, author of "Rich Media, Poor Democracy": "This
is the last nail in the coffin for anyone who believed that the
Internet is the last stronghold of media competition."
Now we tell Bob to get over it. The Internet's still a free
medium -- hey, AOL-Time Warner isn't stopping us from sending
this column. And you want media democracy? Broadband CNN news
content will be distributed on AOL Plus!
Just a short time ago we might have noted the consensus that
the AOL-Time Warner merger will spur a slew of new media and
Internet consolidations ("It's what the future is," a chief
executive who runs theme parks and a movie studio told the
Washington Post. "It sure feels like you need to be bigger --
bigger yet"), and urged that antitrust authorities block the
merger to prevent this trigger effect.
Now we say, "More mergers? That means more synergy!"
(As the late Walter Adams --one of the leading critics of
corporate giantism-- said, no merger was ever announced without a
ritual incantation of the synergistic gains to be realized.)
More mergers are exactly what we need.
Microsoft needs a media company to compete. It is already
partnered with NBC, so we figure it should buy NBC. General
Electric currently owns NBC; Microsoft might as well buy GE too.
And as long as it's on a buying spree, it seems highly
inefficient to have two major multinationals based in Seattle.
Microsoft should purchase Boeing. And once you have planes, you
might as well get cars. We recommend they then buy G.M., Ford and
Daimler-Chrysler, Toyota and the rest.
Meanwhile, it is obvious that with the oil companies facing
a serious political challenge on the global warming issue, they
need their own voice. We recommend they purchase Disney-ABC. Of
course, that would be after Exxon-Mobil finishes buying B.P.-Arco
and the other oil companies. With oil naturally come chemicals
(DuPont, Dow, etc.), and with chemicals come pharmaceuticals.
They should all gravitate to the Exxon-Mobil-Disney pole.
Don't worry about competition; the oil companies still face
competition from other energy sources, like the food companies.
Speaking of which, with the chicken, beef, and pork
processors all rapidly consolidating, the grain traders merging,
the seed business quickly moving toward monopoly, supermarkets
combining, and food processors growing larger, it is time to
speed the process of creating a single food company. Let's call
it Philip Morris
[CTRL] *NEW*anti-state, anti-war, pro-market site*NEW*
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- http://www.lewrockwell.com/ A new service of WorldNetDaily. Bard Militia defined: Please examine for a moment the following on the issue of militia control. And please note, it does NOT include self-appointed (or self-annointed) paranoid wack jobs. Nor are the powers of Congress limited to times of invasion, etc. For example, Congress sets the discipline of the militia and provides for the organizing, arming, and disciplining at all times. Moreover, the "governing" means just that: The states govern based on the methods laid down by Congress until Congress takes direct control or "governing". U.S. Constitution Article 1 Section 8 Paragraph 16 "To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;" 10 USC 311 Militia: composition and classes (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. (b) The classes of the militia are - (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia. 18 USC 2389 Recruiting for service against United States Whoever recruits soldiers or sailors within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, to engage in armed hostility against the same; or Whoever opens within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, a recruiting station for the enlistment of such soldiers or sailors to serve in any manner in armed hostility against the United States - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. 18 USC 2390 Enlistment to serve against United States Whoever enlists or is engaged within the United States or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, with intent to serve in armed hostility against the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. Sturges v. Crowninsheld, 17 U.S. 122 (1819) "The powers given to congress by the constitution, may be divided into three classes: 1st. Those which are national in their nature, and which are vested in congress, as the sovereign power of the nation or Union. 2d. Those powers which are given to congress, and from the exercise of which the states are expressly excluded. 3d. Those which are given to congress, and from the exercise of which the states are not excluded... Under the first class may be enumerated-the power to borrow money on the credit of the United States; to regulate commerce with foreign nations and among the several states; to provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States; to constitute tribunals inferior to the supreme court of the United States; to define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offences against the law of nations; to declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and to make rules concerning captures on land and water; to raise and support armies; to provide and maintain a navy; to provide for organizing, arming and disciplining the militia, c." Houston v. Moore, 18 U.S. 1 (1820) "Congress has power to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining them; and this power being unlimited, except in the two particulars of officering and training them, according to the discipline to be prescribed by Congress, it may be exercised to any extent that may be deemed necessary by Congress. But as State militia, the power of the State governments to legislate on the same subjects, having existed prior to the formation of the constitution, and not having been prohibited by that instrument, it remains with the States, subordinate nevertheless to the paramount law of the general government, operating upon the same subject." Gibbons v. Ogden, 22 U.S. 1 (1824) "This shows that Congress considered the power to punish these offences as concurrent, and that it could be exercised by the States on the ground of their own inherent authority, as it is held that Congress cannot delegate any part of the criminal jurisdiction of the United States to the State tribunals. Again: the power to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, is a concurrent power, according to the same principles." Thurlow v. Com Of Mass., 46 U.S. 504 (1847) "It may be well,
[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] New book on HAARP
Wes Group: Pertinent to our discussion, of the technology now focused on the population of Los Angeles, was Nick's statement last night (on Art Bell's radio show repeat at 9:00PM KKGO-600AM) that the DoD and the DoJ are "running field" tests in several large cities in the U.S. One of them being L.A. I have one correction for Nick. This ain't no test. This is the real thing. And, the reason for the announcements I heard must have come about because of the change in U.S. Code requiring statements to the public telling them they are being used for field tests. Therefore, any posters who had questions regarding this issue? I invite you to listen to the archived show, or go buy Nick's new book. KK -Original Message- From: Wes Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MC] New book on HAARP, ewar, mind control Nick Begish, author, Angels Don't Play This HAARP, has written a new book, Earth Rising, with HAARP updates and covering electronic warfare, mind control, nonlethal weapons and other issues: http://www.earthpulse.com Nick discussed the book on the Art Bell show Tuesday night, Jan. 18. Program summary: http://www.artbell.com/topics.html Audio archive: http://www.artbell.com/audio.html __ Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List info: www.topica.com/lists/mc. _ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13
Re: [CTRL] Madeline Colleen:Secretary of Hate
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Pennie, please your unwarranted attacks are uncalled for. Continued personal attacks will result in a nopost attribute for your current email account. There really is no excuse for these personal attacks. Lets us create understanding, not dissension. Om K In a message dated 1/20/00 8:20:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/20/00 12:17:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Colleen: Everything that you babble is sheer lunacy. Take your Jew-hating ass back to the Sons Of Losers list you came from. Love Pennie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Spooks, Goons, Malingerers Harass NewsHawk
1.20.00 Spooks, Goons, Malingerers Harass NewsHawk Several days ago, beginning Sun., Jan. 16, we began forwarding messages received from KNOWN, TRUSTED sources regarding what appeared to be a potentially bad situation brewing at the Pine Ridge Indian reservation in South Dakota. These messages came from several DIFFERENT sources. After we attempted verification of the information within our limited capabilities with no success, we reprinted the reports in our bulletins exactly as we received them, out of deep concern regarding hostile actions being taken against Native Americans by the federal government; for example, as happened not many years ago at THIS VERY SAME LOCATION! Little mention of the events at Pine Ridge was being made in the national news media, furthering suspicions that something underhanded might be going; as as several of the messages we got indicated. Apparently the situation at the Pine Ridge reservation is now resolving peacefully and productively, for which we are extremely grateful. We have no regrets about forwarding material sent to us which appeared quite urgent. Interestingly however, and reminiscent of the tactics leveled against NewsHawk during the bad old days of our articles exposing conspiracy and cover-up regarding the Columbine High School massacre, the JFK Jr./Bessette murders, and the L.A. Jewish Center AND Ft. Worth church shooting incidents, the information NewsHawk put out regarding the Pine Ridge situation provoked a repeat performance of the same kind of harassment. In fact this latest bout indicates more clearly than ever that there's extensive, collaborative orchestration of the activities being taken against NewsHawk. Spook city. We must have done something right. But oh, by the way, all you spooks and goons out there trying so hard to mess us up and shut us down -- It didn't work. NewsHawk is still in the air, dudes. Get a life. I have one. NewsHawk® Inc. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
[CTRL] OEN 1/20/99
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Affairs of State Hillary: I did not have sex with Vince Foster (It doesn't count if I didn't have an orgasm.) BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- The questions are getting more personal every day for Hillary Rodham Clinton: Has she been unfaithful? Used drugs? ``No'' and ``no,'' she said Wednesday, a day after being asked in a TV interview if she really planned to leave her husband. It was ``no'' to that, too. Mrs. Clinton, submitting to more radio and TV interviews as she nears a formal announcement that she is running for the Senate from New York, made it clear she didn't appreciate the more personal lines of questioning. ``You're going to hate me,'' said WGR-FM morning host Tom Bauerle in Buffalo in introducing his question: ``Have you ever been sexually unfaithful to (President Clinton) and specifically ... with you and (the late Deputy White House Counsel) Vince Foster?'' ``I do hate you for that,'' Mrs. Clinton said, according to a tape of the interview provided by the station. ``I think those questions are out of bounds.'' Bauerle asked again. ``Of course it's 'no,''' Mrs. Clinton said. ``At some point we all have to say these questions, these speculations, really divert attention (from) what we can do to work together.'' Bauerle's next question: ``Have you ever used pot or cocaine?'' ``Tom, what did you have breakfast for this morning?'' Mrs. Clinton responded. ``No,'' she said. ``We ought to be talking about bringing good jobs to western New York and health care and child care.'' ``I don't know that it's fair or unfair,'' Mrs. Clinton said later of the questions. ``It is on some peoples' minds, but most of what people talk to me about is the state of their families and their jobs and their schools and that's what I'm going to be talking about.'' Mrs. Clinton said on Tuesday the nation's most famous ``commuter marriage'' will stay intact -- any rumors to the contrary. ``I have been with my husband for more than half my life. We've been together -- this will be our 25th year of marriage -- and we have so much between us and so many shared experiences and a lot of love in our family, and I certainly intend to spend the rest of my life with him,'' Mrs. Clinton told Buffalo's WKBW-TV in an interview. Wednesday on that station, she also defended the choices she has made in her marriage. ``I know people are interested, but this is something that -- I'm going to have to live my own way and make my own decisions about,'' she said. Mrs. Clinton told reporters that she would formally announce her candidacy in Westchester County on Feb. 6. She recently moved into a $1.7 million house she and the president purchased in the county just north of New York City. Mrs. Clinton said that after her announcement she would tour the state. Separately on Wednesday, Mrs. Clinton campaign committee said it had collected $8 million for the race in six months, while advisers for her likely opponent, New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, said he had raised $12 million last year. The race is expected to be one of the costliest in history. Giuliani's camp has said the goal is to raise between $15 million and $20 million for the entire campaign, while Mrs. Clinton's advisers have pledged to raise more than $25 million. Meanwhile, she and New York City's police commissioner, Howard Safir, are having a disagreement about her motorcades. Safir said Wednesday that Mrs. Clinton does not want her motorcade accompanied by marked city police cars. Mrs. Clinton usually travels in a van accompanied by several other cars carrying her campaign staff, Secret Service agents and sometimes reporters. Typically, a city police car is at the front and rear of the motorcade. ``If you want to be expedited through the city, going through red lights, closing off streets, it has to be done with marked cars so the public understands it's a police operation,'' Safir said. ``You can't do that with unmarked cars. And that's our problem with the Secret Service and Mrs. Clinton's motorcade.'' Mrs. Clinton's entourage does not routinely go through red lights or commandeer lanes of traffic to speed her travel -- not even when she's running late. In one instance she got out of her car and walked to a destination in midtown because she was stuck in traffic. Giuliani said he wants marked police cars to remain in his entourage. ``I want the NYPD,'' he said. ``I like the NYPD. I like people seeing the NYPD is with me. I'm very proud of the New York Police Department.'' Mrs. Clinton's spokesman, Howard Wolfson, would not comment other than to say: ``I don't think we will ever talk about her security arrangements.'' The Associated Press, January 19, 2000 Federal Reserve We Tried to Be Open, But That Was Too Confusing So we've changed from "bias" to "risks". Now is
[CTRL] JFK, Jr., Monica Lewinsky, and Columbus
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:59"JFK, Jr., Monica Lewinsky, and Columbus/A - Subject: JFK, Jr., Monica Lewinsky, and Columbus From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (Kansan1225) Date: Thu, 20 January 2000 07:04 AM EST Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The January 2000 issue of my monthly newsletter "Contemporary Indications of a Conspiracy" includes the following stories: JFK, Jr., Monica Lewinsky, and Columbus More on the "13"-Lines of New Atlantis (a.k.a. the USA) Adolf Schicklgruber and his father and more The November 1999 issue covered the following: The Antichrist and George W. Bush The secrets of Payne Stewart Flight of Horrors, Flight of Horus (EgyptAir 990) and more December 1999 issue: The CLuM meaning of the name "John McCain" The Masonic occupation of Germany More of what the Harodim wrought in 1998 and more Single issues are available for $3.95, a one-year (12 issues) subscription is $29.95. The monthly newsletter "Contemporary Indications of a Conspiracy" is first mailed out between the 15th and 20th days of the month of issue. It can be ordered by writing to: Kansan1225 Dept. J P.O. Box 840395 Houston, TX 77284 For more information on the secret nature of Luciferian Masonry and satanic Zionism, please visit the Web site "Dark Millennium" at: A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/wy/1000/index.html"http://www.angelfi re.com/wy/1000/index.html/A = There are no conspiracies. It's just ignorance: A HREF="http://welcome.to/thenews"http://welcome.to/thenews/ A Only God has the Power and the Glory to create a genuine mystery Sent via Deja.com A HREF="http://www.deja.com/"http://www.deja.com//A Before you buy - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 1.6 Billion For the Colombian Drug War - or to Protect OXY's Pipeline?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:589949"1.6 Billion For the Colombian Drug War - or to Protect OXY's Pipeline?/A - Subject: 1.6 Billion For the Colombian Drug War - or to Protect OXY's Pipeline? From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (E Right) Date: Thu, 20 January 2000 12:28 AM EST Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.6 Billion For the Colombian War to Protect OXY's Pipeline? ER Remember Clinton's anti-terrorism hype? Colombia's Cano Limon pipeline is bombed once a week by the commies. Of all the terrorism in the world, I would imagine the this area accounts for half worldwide. It was bombed on 1/1/2000 - Y2Kday! You never heard that from the major media did you? re: Colombia's Cano Limon pipeline bombed again BOGOTA, (Reuters 1/15/00) - Colombia's Cano Limon-Covenas crude export pipeline has been bombed by Marxist rebels, forcing a halt to pumping less than a day after damage from a previous blast was repaired, state-run oil company Ecopetrol said on Saturday... ER Did you know that the previous blast was over the Y2K new year? The pipeline was blasted a record 79 times last year. ER That's more than ONCE A WEEK! It was bombed 77 times the year before that! Is the US military going to Columbia to be the Occidental Pipeline Police? Hey, they were volunteered to be guardians of the Brazilian Rain Forest! A HREF="http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/000115/h.html"http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/000115 /h.html/A = Related QuotesOXY 22 -5/16 delayed 20 mins - disclaimer Saturday January 15, 11:55 am Eastern Time Colombia's Cano Limon pipeline bombed again BOGOTA, Jan 15 (Reuters) - Colombia's Cano Limon-Covenas crude export pipeline has been bombed by Marxist rebels, forcing a halt to pumping less than a day after damage from a previous blast was repaired, state-run oil company Ecopetrol said on Saturday. The pipeline was hit late Friday near the town of Arauca close to the Cano Limon field operated by Occidental Petroleum Corp (NYSE:OXY - news) in northeast Arauca province. It is the second time this year that the 230,000 barrel per day pipeline has been bombed by guerrillas opposed to what they see as the excessive involvement by foreign multinationals in Colombia's oil industry. The pipeline was blasted a record 79 times last year. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- well Dale, I guess if you trust the gov. to not abuse the power this would give them.more-power to YOU! however, since we know absolute power corrupts absolutely, why give the gov.even more power over us? and it seems to me, you are comparing apples to oranges... Dale Stonehouse wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- So may I infer from this that anything that can be used for any purpose other than good should be caused to cease to exist if possible? If so, then: If guns can be used for other than good, let's cause them to cease to exist. If abortion can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If government can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If science can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If religion can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If splitting the atom can be used for other than good, let's cause atoms to cease to exist. The sentiment itself may have merit, but the logic fails - every time. Whose reality are we talking about here? On Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:40 PM, memmerrise [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I found this after very little Research, and found it interesting as to how prevailant this technology may become. Hmmm I wonder if there is a single person out there that could actually believe that this will only be used for good. If so they need to join Reality. Memmerrise Current trends in transponder systems Major successes using RFID technologies in use today are: Electronic Article Surveillance (EAS) Market penetration of this technology is already reportedly reaching 6 000 million units per year and growing strongly. However there is still lack of standardisation between the different manufacturers, which causes confusion with the end users. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Jamie, I absolutely resemble your remark.. and agree w/ ya, wholeheartedly. kimmy "Stopforth, Jamie" wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Don't be so sure that we won't be here. The rapture theory is just that: A theory. I encourage you to reread for yourself what is said in the Bible about this and see that there is no pre-trib rapture mentioned anywhere. Sorry, but if it's the word of God, it's not a theory. It's truth. As for pre-trib or post trib, I've discussed this issue 100 times over and have yet to find anything that would make me believe it to be post trib. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ed Wilson case: From The Wilderness News Bulletin 00-01
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- "Now, as seven of the biggest names in the American legal/court system stand at the threshold of perjury charges, we see the death of a retired CIA Executive on January 12th, the retirement from the Federal Bench of former CIA General Counsel Stanley Sporkin on Jan 15th and the near fatal air crash involving retired Director of CIA, Adm. Stan Turner on the 16th." Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 2:26 PM To: From The Wilderness Cc: CIA Drugs; Direct Action Network Subject: From The Wilderness News Bulletin 00-01 BREAKING DEVELOPMENTS IN THE EDWIN WILSON case have key officials throughout the government and the intelligence community on the edge of their seats. In a response to motions by Wilson's attorney, made public two days ago, the U.S. Department of Justice acknowledged that key CIA testimony connected with his 1983 conviction for weapons smuggling was perjured. That conviction, involving 40,000 pounds of C-4 plastic explosives, sent in 1977 to Libya's Moammar Qadaffy, lies at the heart of what many have come to call "The Shadow Government". It occurred at a time when the legendary Theodore Shackley was running CIA covert operations and a newly appointed Stansfield Turner was reportedly trying to reign in an out-of-control agency. Now, as seven of the biggest names in the American legal/court system stand at the threshold of perjury charges, we see the death of a retired CIA Executive on January 12th, the retirement from the Federal Bench of former CIA General Counsel Stanley Sporkin on Jan 15th and the near fatal air crash involving Stan Turner on the 16th. For the January issue of "From The Wilderness" we have already obtained statements from Appeals Court Justice Steven Trott, Special Assistant Attorney General Mark Richard, author Peter Maas and - the legendary Ted Shackley himself. By press time we will have completed interviews with attorney Larry Barcella (Wilson's lead prosecutor) and Ed Wilson himself. Find out who it was that categorized Stansfield Turner's Costa Rica crash as, "a regular airline crash. One of those 'off-beat' airline kind of things." We are so far ahead of the mainstream they can't even see our dust. Tell a friend and subscribe now. The January issue mails, to subscribers only, on January 28th. After reviewing more than a thousand pages of documents and official records it is safe to say that if anyone pulls just one of the worms in this can, the CIA is in deep trouble. So perhaps is George H.W. Bush. For more information on how to subscribe, please visit the web site. Mike Ruppert Publisher/Editor www.copvcia.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd:Conspiracy Theory
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd:Conspiracy Theory Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 5:27 PM -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 1/15/00 2:29:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the best of times, conspiracism is a pointless diversion of focus and waste of energy. Conspiracism promotes scapegoating as a way of thinking; and since scapegoating in the US is rooted in racism, antisemitism, ethnocentrism, and xenophobia, conspiracism promotes bigotry. In periods of social or economic crisis, populist conspiracism facilitates the spread of fascist and para-fascist social movements because they too rely on demagogic scapegoating and conspiracist theories as an organizing tool. Radical-sounding conspiracist critiques of the status quo are the wedge that fascism uses to penetrate and recruit from the left. Progressive conspiracism is an oxymoron. Rejecting the conspiracist analytical model is a vital step in challenging both right-wing populism and fascism. I have truncated your post above. I can agree with much of what you have said in the piece but must point out that it is only right as far as it goes. That you can equate conspiracy theory with an attack against certain groups operating behind the scenes is certainly true, but you also can't deny that conspiracy theory itself has evolved now to questioning the system and the power structures themselves, and not just these "mad men behind it all". I agree that there is a backlash possible, in that people will tend to extremes of belief in the face of counteracting a force which they see as invisible and strong, and that lends itself to populism and right wingism as well as fascist ideas, which can be seen by some "conspiracy theorists" on the right and neo-fascist groups, as well as racist white supremacist groups. I would assert that conspiracy theory cannot wholly be classified as has been done in this piece. I would assert that in its best form it now challenges the very structure, as self propagating, in the sense that there may be individual conspiracies that result in some marginal changes from time to time, as some would categorize conspiracy theory in general, but that the system fosters an overarching conspiracy of disparate forces working within a system towards ends that are "seperate but equal", and each acting in their own best interests and oblivious of the others existence. The very nature of the power system that is in place allows such to develop, and one cannot forget the fact that gradual change over time by small degrees that are hardly noticable also accomplish much over time. Thus Supreme Court action which nullifies traditionally held personal protections and privacy laws, while maybe not having an immediate effect now, nonetheless have an effect over time by allowing the future application of law to take advantage of the change. Thus even little insignificant conspiracies have an effect when taken as a whole. It is erroneous to dismiss this idea simply because it is different forces at work in each case because it is the end result which is important. There is no "one group" of elites that are behind everything, just as it is not the Jews, or the Reptilian Overlords, or any other scapegoat which is causing history to be molded according to a conspiracy theory of history assertion, it is instead disparate groups, operating within a system to change it to make it easier for them to carry out the actions which help them to achieve their ends, and in many cases this helps other of these groups as well, as laws are changed and freedoms lost, paradigms changed, etc. The system as it is changed by each of the disparate groups ends up being as if it is a "collective conspiracy" even though these groups and individuals operate independantly with no actual plan, and not in "cahoots" with the other individuals or groups also "doing their own thing". The end result is the same. It is this area of research that should serve as a starting point to understanding the dynamics of the system and the role that conspiracy theory and research have. ** *** "Welcome to the desert of the real." Morpheus, "The Matrix". "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity, and it is not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but someday the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up
[CTRL] Fwd: Waco Suits for Waco Suckers (http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/
Interesting material..Carol Valentines material and question remainswhy Delta, NATO, FBI, BATF, and who knows who allwhy...what does water have to do with this..some think something wonderful in water, but I think fluoride and Manhattan project and toxic waste involvedlike the put the Indians now in places where live bombs had to be removed, or now swine farms when there is fatal disease going around Anyway FYI.think someone is trying to sabotage the Waco Case in favor of government.. By their fruits will you know them? Colleen Title: Waco Suits for Waco Suckers Waco Suits for Waco Suckers or They Couldn't Even Get the Names Right! by Carol A. Valentine Judge Charlie McCarthy presiding ... Hey, Wow! They're finally doing something about Waco! That video showed how the government shot the Davidians as they were trying to escape the fire, and tough Davidian lawyers are suing the government because of what they did! The judge is the same judge who was real mean to the Davidians back in 1994 and sent them to prison for 40 years, but don't worry, he is nice now--he had a change of heart! Now he's going after the government, not the Davidians! The FBI has admitted it lied about stuff. Janet Reno and Louis Freeh are real ANGRY! There are Congressional investigations, too, complete with turf battles! The nation is coming together! Folks are feeling sorry about what happened, and are helping the Davidians rebuild their church! They've even had a ground breaking ceremony, with the American flag fluttering in the breeze! It was very nice! Truth! Justice! The American Way! Yes, indeed, it's all just around the corner! * * * Do you believe all this? THEN YOU ARE A SUCKER. The lawsuits and attendant media hoopla are part of a tawdry, choreographed vaudeville show designed to cover up the Waco Holocaust yet again. The bad actors include Kirk Lyons, Ramsey Clark, Gordon Novel, Brigadier General Benton Partin, Michael Caddell, Michael McNulty, and Judge Walter Smith. Before we get into details, allow us to pose a question. Imagine you are a surviving Branch Davidian or a family member of one of those killed. Suppose you had voluminous, incontestable, publicly available evidence that members of your family and your friends were murdered with malice aforethought and their bodies desecrated in an attempt to cover up the crime. Would you file a lawsuit claiming that your women folk and children (a) died by accident, (b) committed suicide, (c) were murdered by other Davidians? Would you claim your dead friends and relatives set Mt. Carmel on fire? Would you ask that Americans who had no part in the planning or performance of the murders pay millions of dollars to you while the murderers went free? Would you take part in the falsification of history and consider your loved ones were in any way avenged? Now you understand the Davidian civil suits. They re-assert the government's most pernicious black propaganda against Davidians living and dead, make exotic claims against the US that are completely unsupported or supported by weak and contested evidence, and ignore the most powerful and convincing evidence against the US. Table of Contents1. Judge Charlie McCarthy Presiding ... 2. The Importance of Truth in Justice 3. Kirk Lyons 3a. Startle Summers ... No Body to Speak Of ... 3b. It IS Aisha Summers. (Please Don't Read the Autopsy Report.) 3c. Forget Lyons' Death Squad. Aisha Suicided 3e. Davidians Started the Fire 4. Ramsey Clark 4a. Ramsey Clark Has Been Misunderstood 4b. Gordon Novel and the Body-Obliterating Bomb 4c. The Fireball and the Hole 4d. General Partin Goes Down in Flames 4e. Mrs. O'Leary's Cow Started the Fire 4f. Would You Trust a Spook to Investigate Waco? 4g. Koresh Assassination: Too Bad Ramsey Missed It 4h. Do the Beasts of the Field Have Names? 5. Judge Walter Smith, Perjury Facilitator 5a. None Dare Call it Collusion 6. Michael Caddell and The Network 6a. The Ex-Mrs. Clive Doyle the Doyle Grandchildren (?) 6b. The Ghostly Horde and the FLIR Tape 6c. Where Are FLIR Images of Fleeing Davidians? 6d. No Bodies in Back of Mt. Carmel Center 6e. McNulty and Friends 6f. Davidians Murdered Each Other 6g. Another Vanishing Body 6h. Koresh Molested Children 6i. The Incompetents vs. The Weirdos 6j. Blame it on Davidian Religion 6k. What's in a Name? 6l. Janet Reno Is a Nice Person, Really! 6m. Davidians Started the
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- On Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:40 PM, KDS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: well Dale, I guess if you trust the gov. to not abuse the power this would give them. I don't trust or distrust the government any more than I believe or disbelieve any particular religion. This would be engaging in dualistic, black-or-white thinking, which is the trap "they" are counting on us to keep ourselves in. Nearly all of reality is in the grey area which is ignored by the masses. Wishing for technology to go away does not make it so. "I wish the Earth was still flat." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: J.J. Johnson: The Confederate Flag: Should We get Rid of It?
A few words from J.J. Johnson with regard to the Confederate Flag... And whoever stole my Bonnie Blue, the next time you are in for a jolt. Colleen The Confederate Flag: Should We get Rid of It? By J.J. Johnson SierraTimes.com Editor-n-Chief http://www.SierraTimes.com Okay, so whats wrong with me? In celebration of slain Civil Rights Leader Martin Luther Kings day (week?) if I watch enough news, I should be out there with my black brethren yelling, screaming and looking to burn every free waving set of Stars and Bars I run across. So whats wrong? Shouldn't I be offended as well? In a way, yes. I am. And heres why: I had ancestors who fought on both sides of that war which was anything but civil. Surprised? Yes, in Northern Mississippi in fact. Cousin against cousin. One man trying to protect what was his, and one who escaped slavery only to be drafted into taking his cousins land away. This little fact, along with all the arguments about Southern Heritage, Southern Pride and Remembering the Gentlemen who in died war gets lost in all the noise about why its so insensitive. And I am just fed up with it. More than that, Im fed up with the yellow-bellied, white guys who dont have the guts to fight back on the issue. I know, no one wants to get labeled the R word. To politicians, its a label thats worse than being called a liar, an adulterer or a draft dodger. And heaven knows, you white guys in the public sector better not even bring it up at work or in public. Theres a civil rights lawsuit with your name on it. Yet, I know how many of you especially you folks south of the Mason-Dixon line must feel right now. Wanna fight back? Hold my coat for a minute Where were these protests against OUR Confederate battle flag for the last 135 years? Why are these black people allowing themselves to be manipulated by the media and their left-wing, so-called "black leadership?" Whenever I hear a black person talk about this flag issue, I ask them the same questions. Do you know how long that flag has been flying over those state capitals? Haven't you seen them there before? The answer from most blacks I talk to out west is, who cares? Not good enough for the National Association for the Advancement of Career Politicians (NAACP). Not good enough for these modern-day Plantation Pimps who cant find any other juvenile criminals to fight for so now they retaliate by dissing a great hunk of American culture. This is ONLY being done to pander to black voters this political season. You see, back in 1992, folks just decided to burn down Los Angeles while liberal politicians mailed gasoline to the rioters. This time, lets burn down a heritage instead. I hope some black person is reading this right now and fuming. You should be. If you think the Confederate flag is insulting to you, you are being used, or as we say it in the hood, you bein played for a fool. By who? Not by those evil conservatives, but by the liberal white man. The ones wholl take your votes, then tell you youre not good enough to make it on your own. But there is no sense giving you the same argument many of the Southern Ladies and Gentleman are trying to give now. You don't want to hear them, anyway. Lets talk about insensitivity, shall we? If you don't mind, some of us with southern roots are going to find every Vietnamese American citizen in this country, bus them to Washington, D.C. and protest to have the Vietnam Memorial removed from the park. Why stop there? On the way to Washington, we might as well grab every citizen with German or Japanese ancestors. With enough noise, we can get rid of that World War II Memorial, too. After all, These people all had relatives who were killed by the men and women America honors at those Memorials. You liberal, nothing-else-better-to-do black folks wouldn't mind, would you? Yes. Let that sink in real good. Thats what youre doing to these good people of the South. You are DESECRATING THEIR MEMORIAL Check that Our Memorial. What ever happened to Diversity? Tolerance? Must be a one sided thing. Don't give me that Symbol of Slavery bull. If that were the case, turn in all those 1, 20, 50, and 100 dollar bills. The faces on these bills were men who were leaders when many blacks were slaves. But lets get down and dirty, shall we? The worst riot in American history was not in Los Angeles. It was in New York, back in 1863. You see, there were a bunch of people who, like during Vietnam, didnt want be conscripted (read: drafted) to serve in an unjust war. Talk to your President about that. Over 1200 people died in just two days. Most when President Lincoln sent federal troops in to put down the rebellion. Oh, by the way, 83 blacks were lynched in those two days right there in The Big Apple. So, which flag do you really want taken down? But since were all told to boycott, will those
[CTRL] Total Lunar Eclipse Tonight - 01/20
Don't miss the *TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE TONIGHT* January 20th http://www.pa.msu.edu/abrams/SkyWatchersDiary/Diary.html Thursday, January 20 A few minutes before the Sun sets in WSW, try to spot the Full Moon rising in the opposite direction, ENE. From East Lansing, MI both Sun and Moon are one degree above opposite horizons 10 minutes before sunset. The opposition of Sun and Moon becomes more precise later this evening, during the total lunar eclipse, which occurs as Moon passes through the umbra, or dark central core of Earth's shadow. All stages of umbral eclipse are visible from all of N. America except the western Aleutian Islands. For viewers in eastern U.S., the event begins late in the evening and continues well past midnight, as follows: Moon enters umbra 10:01 p.m. EST, total eclipse from 11:04 p.m. until 12:23 a.m. EST, Moon leaves umbra 1:26 a.m. EST. From the West Coast, the local time of the eclipse is three hours earlier: Moon enters umbra 7:01 p.m. PST, total eclipse from 8:04 p.m. until 9:23 p.m. PST, Moon leaves umbra 10:26 p.m. PST. In Hawaii, the Moon, just entering total eclipse at 6:04 p.m., rises invisibly around sunset and becomes visible as the sky darkens. Totality ends at 7:23 p.m. Hawaii time as the Moon begins to emerge from the umbra, and the Moon completely leaves the umbra at 8:26 p.m. HST. What colors will you see on the Moon during totality? The Earth's shadow projected on the Moon during lunar eclipse is usually a deep reddish-orange color, from sunlight which passes close to Earth and is bent, by our atmosphere, into the shadow and onto the Moon. The appearance of the Moon varies considerably from one eclipse to another. At deepest eclipse, at 11:43 p.m. EST (8:43 p.m. PST), Moon's northern limb is deep within umbra and narrowly misses the center of Earth's shadow. So that part of the Moon's disk is likely to appear very dark. Stars around the Moon at mid-eclipse: Note the two bright stars Pollux and Castor, the Gemini twins, 4-1/2 degrees apart, above the Moon. A line from Castor to Pollux extended about 10 degrees points to the totally eclipsed Moon. In dark-sky locations, the Beehive cluster in Cancer appears as a faint smudge of light 6 degrees or 7 degrees to the Moon's east. Binoculars resolve the smudge into stars and should give fine views of the colorful eclipsed Moon. ++
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- oh, well, the reality of the situation is black and white..in that if you study history you will see that any government who had full control over its peoples abused that power and their people.and that is the REALITY of the situation... nothing grey there, and that has nothing to do w/ your or anyone's religious beliefs. and I personally do not trust the government and that opinion I hold is based on fact not feeling... ks Dale Stonehouse wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- On Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:40 PM, KDS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: well Dale, I guess if you trust the gov. to not abuse the power this would give them. I don't trust or distrust the government any more than I believe or disbelieve any particular religion. This would be engaging in dualistic, black-or-white thinking, which is the trap "they" are counting on us to keep ourselves in. Nearly all of reality is in the grey area which is ignored by the masses. Wishing for technology to go away does not make it so. "I wish the Earth was still flat." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000120a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH? * No aliens were teleported to safety during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Mojave Phone Booth: http://www.deuceofclubs.com/moj/mojave.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Pentagon Now Developing Teleportation - Next Scientific Realm. WASHINGTON In what may be the largest quantum computer research program in the world, the Pentagon is developing tools to teleport messages across the battle- field around the globe. Teleportation, simply stated, is the process of making information disappear from one place so it can reappear in another. The concept was made popular with the Star Trek TV series' oft-imitated quote, "Beam me up, Scottie." http://www.sightings.com/ufo6/teleport.htm # Atoms Moved Between Worlds. Physicists nudge atoms back forth between our everyday world a the strange quantum realm, where objects can paradox- ically be in two places at the same time. If physicists can further refine this technology, it could result in incredibly fast quantum computers able to crack even the toughest encryption codes used by conventional computers today. http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/brief4.html?ct=38873dac : Does quantum computing make you feel more or less secure? If your quantum computer breaks, do you call a quantum mechanic? Would you rather teleport data, food, garbage, yourself, your family/neighbors/enemies? Where to?? # Database atomic quantum phase: http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9258352 # Scientists probe quantum world: http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9256021 # NIST Scientists Cross The Bridge Between Atomic And Real Worlds: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/01/000120073305.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Spectacular Fireball Streaks Explodes Over Yukon - Possible impact near Carcross-Tagish Area! Hundreds of Whitehorse residents and witnesses from surrounding communities witnessed a bright series of flashes with many seeing a rapidly moving bright object traveling over the city in a south- bound direction where the object was seen to "blow-up" over the southern horizon. The flashes were as bright as daylight and lit up the entire dark morning sky. The object left a contrail that lingered for 10 to 15 minutes after the event: http://www.ufobc.org/yukon/ykfireballjan2000.html : Have you seen any fireballs lately? Have any fireballs seen you? D'ya have fiery balls? Have you ever sung, "GOODNESS GRACIOUS GREAT BALLS OF FIRE"?? @ Silver Spheres, Gazing Balls, UFO's Me: http://www.itlnet.net/users/jhickman/silver_spheres.htm # New Star Trek TV Series? http://sightings.com/ufo6/call.htm # "Area51" Reference on Phone Service Disruption Report: http://216.68.77.17/img/sprintoutage.jpg _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # BORN AGAIN? YOU'RE PART OF A GROWING TREND. A third of America's 77- million baby boomers call themselves born-again Christians - when poll- sters ask: http://chblue.com/2000/01/19/l/-0003-religion-faith.asp # Lions return - torture, murder of Xians, 'scapegoats of choice' for thugs: http://worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/2120_xex_the_lions_ba.shtml # FCC 'must explain' religious action - Big brother hinders free speech? http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/2119/pl/religious_broadcasting_6.html # Thousands of people had conspired to fool Mark Mason into believing that Afghan thieves have their hands chopped off. Or so he wished. Some bloody justice in Taliban's Kabul: http://www.orato.com/frames/hand.htm : Is your religious movement the dominant heresy in your region? Are you oppressed or oppressive? Does your belief system require you to complain of being oppressed while you actually do some heavy-duty oppressing yourself? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # New guidelines on embryo tests - NIH OKs research to minimize suffering: http://worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/2120_xex_new_us_guide.shtml @ Dr. Mengele assumes fetal position - exposing fed.funded embryo science: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_btl/2120_xcbtl_the_return.shtml @ DOES SCIENCE WITHOUT ETHICS MEAN PROGRESS FOR HUMANITY? http://www.nypost.com/commentary/22463.htm @ Eugenics will soon be a crusade of the Left. Once we can spot inequality in DNA, genetic engineering will come to the rescue of social engineering. Let's get equal: http://www.nationalreview.com/24jan00/murray012400.html : Are you more or less equal than everyone else? Should you be genetically re-engineered for more/same/less superiority/equality/inferiority? Do you oppose embryo/gene research because you're already better/same/worse than the rest of us? Would you rather experiment on people or
Re: [CTRL] Madeline Colleen:Secretary of Hate
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Well, since I don't and don't care to know the history of these squabbles. Please let us keep the dissension civil and realize that many people do not share your interpretive-scriptorial-based-beliefs. What do you do to things that do not deserve your respect? Kill'em? Lock'em up? Who ya gonna call? There are many books about the brainwashing effects of fundamentalism and religion. I have heard nothing from Collen about any holocaust denier beliefs. What her beliefs are I don't know. BUT at least she respects the message of the declaration disclaimer and has been civil. And while her messages may be perceived by some as "strange" at times, I am sure that we all get mis-perceived and those that can hear might hear and those that don't won't. And as always, Caveat Lector. MHO Om K In a message dated 1/20/00 10:28:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was also under the impression that "Nazis need not apply", which was the reason I joined this list. I had many arguments on SOL with Colleen and her hate-group about the Holocaust. They claimed there was even a pool at Aushwitz! I'm sorry, but people who are that brainwashed by hate and denial don't deserve my respect. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] memory validation
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Hi ! Here's an article I wrote a while ago about the validity of memory. I think this helps support the validity of all the allegations of anecdotal accounts of ritual abuse/mind control by government funded or affiliated groups as well as those allegations made against secretive organizations. Sincerely, Neil Brick Memory Validation The information for the following article came from "Memory, Trauma Treatment, and the Law" by Brown, Scheflin and Hammond, W.W. Norton and Co. New York and London, C 1998 (http://www.wwnorton.com) Page 370-381 The base rates for memory commission errors are quite low, at least in professional trauma treatment. The base rates in adult misinformation studies run between zero and 5 percent for adults and between 3 - 5 percent for children. Out of about seven to 10% of the general population that may be highly hypnotizable, four to 6 percent of high hypnotizable subjects may "produce hypnotic psuedomemories for peripheral details (of a memory) in response to suggestions" in a waking state or hypnotized with controlled situational influence. The 4-6 percent may rise in terms of report rates to 80% under some conditions of social influence. Extreme social influence can be compared to brainwashing or social influence to the following criteria, several of which must happen for the possibility of an untrue memory to occur: patient is highly suggestible (in terms of memory), with low to moderate suggestibility a therapeutic situation must contain a number of the following: patient is quite uncertain about the past event, suggestions of peripheral details (not central plot actions of a memory), source credibility (an authority figure), patient bias (previous information), authority figure bias (has set belief about what happened), systematic misleading (rather than free recall), emotional manipulation (blame or rejection for not producing the desired result or praise for the desired result), behavioral response (individual journal or oral narrative to group of trauma or action against perpetrators), milieu control (total information control in and out of therapeutic or other context) and psychophysiological manipulation (breaking down the subject's defenses, assaults self esteem or person's core or causes subject to regress). "Occasional unwitting misleading suggestions (Yapko, 1994a), even the suggestion of a diagnosis of abuse, cannot adequately explain illusory memories of child sexual abuse." (p. 379) Occasional suggestions about abuse are not generally effective, except in highly suggestible people. Some child abuse interrogations might come close to some of the above conditions. Those that have retracted claims due to influence from their accused families, if they have internalized the systematic information of the FMSF, and were coached by FMSF members may also meet many of the above criteria of social influence. Three to six percent of people possess a trait of high memory suggestibility (related or unrelated to hypnotizability). They may make errors for at least peripheral information, but under the certain social conditions listed before they might make errors for central information also. One to two thirds of people could possibly make memory errors in an interrogatory social interaction with many of the social influence conditions listed before. About one third of the population are resistant to memory commission errors except under extreme conditions. My conclusion is that memory contamination is very unlikely, except under extreme conditions. From the data presented, it sounds like it is almost totally impossible for anyone to make a memory error for the central plot of a memory simply by hearing disinformation. A variety of other factors would have to be in place. Even under hypnosis without several social influence factors, it sounds like it is extremely rare (4-6% of 7-10%, less than one percent of people) may be influenced by disinformation. It sounds like most people would almost have to be in a cult or in a cult like situation or under considerable duress to produce an untrue memory. Theories that claim that a "false" memory can be created simply by hearing an erroneous statement or because a person is looking for "filler" to complete the central plot of their memory, are probably wrong. But, if all the information in the media and society available to most survivors is biased toward the incorrect position that memories of abuse are false. And a survivor is manipulated and pressured by their family emotionally and cognitively, it is very possible that a survivor may wrongly believe that their memories are not true. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 1/20/00 10:34:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are going to believe what you want to believe. I am not here to convince you to believe as I do. I merely provided the documentation you asked for. eagle 1 Very interesting. Arguments over interpretative values of scripture as they concern they last days. So telling . . . . Your dualism is also very telling. I am saying you are wrong. I am saying that your dualistic framing is wrong spiritually? I am against you dividing peoples beliefs into God and the Devil.I would much rather prosecute the traitors now and leave a better world to our children. So since I oppose you , who side am I on? By the way, how old is the earth? Your rhetoric is classic. The type one can expect from memewarfare and ignorance. PLEASE can ya'll please take the scriptorial haggling off list. I believe we all know about the innate dichotomies present in the Bible. And they won't be solved by email arguments about the finer points of eschatology. MHO Om K - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000120b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH? * No sounds smelled too vividly smooth during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Randomized News: http://my.buttcheek.com/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Synesthesia - A Magical Melding Of The Senses. NEW YORK - The letter "A" is a pale shade of yellow. Hearing a French horn smells like cinnamon. And eating a hamburger feels like somebody's jabbing your big toe. People with a somewhat magical condition called synesthesia do not experience reality in the same way as most of us; the rigid wall between the five senses is lowered, or demolished completely. By virtue of a uniquely wired brain, they are able to feel smells, hear tastes and see music, among other combinations. http://foxnews.com/health/011700/synesthesia.sml : Do you experience the world in a unique manner? Is your brain wired oddly? Is this caused by evolution, ET implants, divine touch, drugs, mind-control rays, interdimensional warps/rifts, magic, parasites? Are you empowered?? @ Alex Chiu's http://www.alexchiu.com/ Eternal Life device is "the most important invention in human history." And it's yours for a low low price http://www.alexchiu.com/eternallife/alexchiu.htm of $16.50! @ Henry Flynt http://www.butterfly.net/henryflynt/ may not be insane, but his writings could drive YOU insane. Arm yourself with his refutations of language, mathematics, and personhood and win any argument, instantly! And see http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Wackos/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Mystery Iceballs Claim First Victim in Spain. MADRID (Reuters) An elderly Spanish woman has claimed she was hit by a falling iceball, apparently the first victim of a phenomenon that has been puzzling scientists for days. Attacked: http://news.excite.com/news/r/000120/10/science-spain-iceballs @ SAUCER ATTACKED ME, PILOT DECLARES. Within minutes after his hair-raising experience, I talked to a veteran Air Force pilot who excitedly reported that his F-51 fighter plane was attacked repeatedly by a flying saucer. The incident, never before revealed to the public, occurred at 8000 feet over Augusta, Ga., on a warm, sunny, clear day. The pilot's own startling story is in the files in Washington. http://www.caus.org/mu012000.htm : Have you ever been attacked by a flying saucer? Have you ever attacked a flying saucer? Is vengeance mandatory? Are attacks justified? Should media cover the attacks, the reprisals, or does this only promote more violence? # Major Media UFO Breakthrough Continues: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/nation/433097 # Photo and Drawings of "Starfield Camouflage UFO" http://home.fuse.net/ufo/missouri99.html # INVESTIGATION OF SEPTEMBER FLORIDA SIGHTINGS: http://www.caus.org/mu012000b.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Is An Asteroid About To Land On Our Head? So far, major earth impacts have occurred only in the most sparsely populated parts of the globe. This may account for our underestimation of their frequency, sez British astronomer Dr Mark Bailey. Last century's South American impacts, coupled with the Tunguska event, mean largescale extraterrestrial invaders could be up to 10 times more common than previously thought. "The earth may be subject to three or four such events a century," warns Bailey. Despite the relatively small probability of catastrophic earth impact, the issue is important enough to warrant near-earth object monitoring by astronomical observa- tories worldwide. http://www.suntimes.co.za:80/2000/01/16/insight/in10.htm : Do astronomical objects pick on you? Are you tired of taking this abuse? Have you formed a vigilante group? Are you ready to strike back? At what?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Columbine moviemakers busted on gun charges. The amateur filmmakers prod- uced "Duck: The Carbine Massacre," which showed the two auteurs walking on school property with shotguns. A Denver TV station ordered the movie and called cops after seeing the weapons. The station says the suspects have made other violent movies and are members of an underground group that trades blood-and-gore films. http://denverpost.com/news/shot0120.htm # Bailed out: http://www.bergenrecord.com/news/ringwoodj21205.htm : Have you made any documentary films about school violence? Do you re-enact the violence? Do you use many weapons? What govt agencies are involved? Are you training students for more violence? Is this a form of mind-control? Eh? # Man's tired of elephants stomping in his yard: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/metropolitan/432304 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Muslims ransack Indonesian island. Mobs have trashed and
[CTRL] Fw: [Fwd: Fwd: KFC.....Finger Lickin' Good? I think not...... muhahaha ;)]
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- - Original Message - From: "baron,john.r.kuipers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kuipers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 10:25 PM Subject: Fw: [Fwd: Fwd: KFC.Finger Lickin' Good? I think not.. muhahaha ;)] Date: January 13, 2000 6:17 PM Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: KFC.Finger Lickin' Good? I think not.. muhahaha yummy!!! KFC Anyone? makes you wonder ... KFC has been a part of American tradition for many years. Many people, day in and day out, eat at KFC religiously. Do they really know what they are eating? During a recent study of KFC done at the University of New Hampshire, they found some very upsetting facts. First of all, has anybody noticed that just recently, the company has changed their name? Kentucky Fried Chicken has become KFC. Does anybody know why? We thought the real reason was because of the "FRIED" food issue. It's not! The reason why they call it KFC is because they cannot use the word chicken anymore.Why? KFC does not use real chickens. They actually use genetically manipulated organisms. These so called "chickens" are kept alive by tubes inserted into their bodies to pump blood and nutrients throughout their structure. They have no beaks, no feathers, and no feet. Their bone structure is dramatically shrunk to get more meat out of them. This is great for KFC because they do not have to pay so much for their production costs. There is no more plucking of the feathers or the removal of the beaks and feet. The government has told them to change all of their menus so they do not say chicken anywhere. If you look closely you will notice this. Listen to their commercials, I guarantee you will not see or hear the word chicken. I find this matter to be very disturbing. I hope people will start to realize this and let other people know. Please forward this message to as many people as you can. Together we can make KFC start using real chicken again. ** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Balkan Blind Spot
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Balkan Blind Spot
Editors Note: The Associated Press reported on Wednesday that Serbia is at the
point of collapse. One politician opposed to Serbian President Slobodan
Milosevic estimates that up to 70 percent of the population are living on or
below the poverty line. And the country has been struggling with up to a
million refugees from Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo. A big story, you might think,
but why is it not making news? With that in mind, NewsWatch invited Mustafa
Malik, a journalist who has specialized in looking at ethnic and religious
conflict, to comment on the media coverage.
By Mustafa Malik
January 20, 2000
In 1993 Vladimir Matic resigned his diplomatic post in Yugoslavia over
differences with Slobodan Milosevic, then Serbian president, and flew into self-
imposed exile in the United States. Ever since, the Serbian patriot has been
making the rounds in Washington lamenting "the devastation of Yugoslavia" by
Milosevic and other Balkan jingoists.
These days Matic includes the "American media" among those who have let the
Serbs down. The U.S. news media did a great job, he points out, of reporting
the travails of 800,000 or so ethnic Albanians expelled from Kosovo by
Milosevic, now president of Yugoslavia. But where are the media now, he asks,
"when 900,000 Serb and Roma refugees are suffering" in Serbia and Montenegro,
two of the original six republics that remain in Yugoslavia? These refugees
have been expelled by Muslims and Croats from Kosovo, Bosnia-Herzegovina and
Croatia. American reporters, Matic says, care to mention them only when they
criticize Milosevic.
Janusz Bugajski, Balkan specialist at the Center for Strategic and
International Studies in Washington, adds that the Serb refugees' "plight is
terrible because they are also being ignored by the indigenous press." The
government-controlled Serbian media play down the refugee problem as it reminds
people of Milosevics defeat in three wars.
Most refugees in Serbia have to fend for themselves, which is especially hard
in a war-ravaged economy under Western economic sanctions. A Serbian-American
who has returned from a visit to Belgrade says many refugees "cant manage two
full meals [daily], cant afford medicine or winter clothing."
Many Balkan watchers have a hard time rationalizing Americas market-driven
journalism that led to the selective coverage of the Balkan mayhem. In the
stampede to grab the publics limited attention span, reporters feel compelled
to "lead with blood and guts," to quote Paul Friedman, executive producer of
ABCs "World News Tonight With Peter Jennings". And Kosovo offered lots of
Albanian blood and NATO guts.
Yet the Balkan story had a downside: it was still a foreign story. Since the
end of the Cold War, the media have cut back on foreign news coverage
supposedly because Americans, busy with stocks and sports, have no time for old-
world feuds. With politicians help, however, news organizations managed to
package the Kosovo conflict with wrapping that helped grab the publics
attention. Milosevic's crime in Kosovo (and Bosnia) was among the ghastliest in
European history: President Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
branded him a "Hitler" and compared the killing and expulsion of Kosovar
Albanians with the Nazi Holocaust. The symbols helped market the story, and
were repeated in the media liberally and often uncritically.
Some, such as The New York Times Thomas Friedman, went on to liken Milosevic
to Iraqi tyrant Saddam Hussein and Libyan dictator Muammar Ghadafi, thereby
establishing his credibility in the pantheon of contemporary evil. Unluckily
for the Serb refugees, they cant point to a "Hitler" as the cause of their
agony. Being the adversaries of Milosevic's adversaries, they tend to be seen
by the media as partisans of Milosevic, even though they are among the guinea
pigs of his bloody experiment for a "pluralist" state.
In fact, the whole business of judging good and evil in the Balkans is
confusing, partly because the conflicts pitch pluralism against freedom.
Ironically, Milosevic staked out a very "American" position. He wanted to keep
Yugoslavia together in a federal, pluralist democracy, arguing that if hundreds
of ethnic groups can live in the United States, a dozen of them must be able to
do so in Yugoslavia. His military campaign against separatist ethnic groups was
an attempt to "save" the old Yugoslav federation, and at one point he compared
it to the American Civil War.
He should have known that the peoples of the old Yugoslavia, unlike most
Americans, cherish their ethnic cultures more than their pocketbook. And with
the Serbs being the largest ethnic community, ethnic minorities feared that a
majority-ruled democratic Yugoslavia would mean their "legal subjugation."
Hence, the Croats,
Re: [CTRL] KFC.....Finger Lickin' Good?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- The KFC story is Urban Legend - see wysiwyg://43/http://www.snopes.com/ Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [3b] American Enterprise - Free and Not So Free
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- an excerpt from: American Enterprise - Free and Not So Free Clarence H. Cramer©1972 Little Brown and Company ISBN 0-316-16000-8 728pps. - First Edition - Out-of-print --[3b]-- Ultimately four colonies were founded originally as a result of activities by joint-stock companies: Virginia, Massachusetts, New York, and Delaware. Three others were born because of animosity against Massachusetts: these were New Hampshire, which broke away for political reasons, and Connecticut and Rhode Island, which were settled by squatters unhappy with the theological, social, and economic climate in the Bible Commonwealth. New Hampshire began with fishing and trading settlements, was gobbled up in 1641 by the grasping Bay Colony. In 1679 Charles II, annoyed by this display of greed, separated New Hampshire from Massachusetts and made it a royal colony. Connecticut got its start in the late 1630's largely through the influence of Thomas Hooker. He was basically a clerical autocrat of the medieval vintage, but authoritarians seldom see eye to eye and he had chafed under the restrictive laws of Massachusetts Bay. He left for the south, however, with the blessing of the Bay Colony, and it seems that the economic desire for better land was more important in the migration than any religious difference which might have developed. Like Plymouth, Connecticut was originally a squatter colony with no legal right to the lands it had usurped and no rights of government granted by the king. The latter, in the person of Charles 11, had no use at all for Massachusetts Bay; he was therefore happy to grant Connecticut a royal charter in 1662. The founding of Rhode Island in the 1630's is much more interesting than that of Connecticut or New Hampshire. The division between Massachusetts and Rhode Island was deep and wide and complex because of very real theological, social, and economic fissures. The emigrants who first went to Rhode Island, unlike those who departed for New Hampshire and Connecticut, had been banished. Roger Williams managed to get some territory south of Massachusetts from the Narragansett Indians, whose friendship he had won and whose language he had taken the trouble to learn. In 1663 he was granted a royal charter that legalized his squatter colony, in part because Charles II had a greater dislike of Massachusetts to the north. Rhode Island turned out to be unusual in several ways: in religion, in its Indian policy, and in an economic theory that was at complete variance from the Protestant ethic. There was complete separation of church and state and freedom of religion for all including freedom for Quakers, Jews, and Catholics. There was no compulsory attendance at church; in Williams's judgment "forced worship stinks in God's nostrils." There were no taxes to support a state religious establishment. The Puritans held firmly to the idea of the unity of church and state, and believed that the state should legislate and enforce morals among its subjects. Roger Williams and Anne Hutchinson, who had led the exodus to Rhode Island, did not believe civil authorities should have any control over conscience. Williams defended Indian claims to their soil, purchased from them instead of taking land by force. As a trader-clergyman he shared the Indian life, slept at their forest firesides, experienced their dangers; among all other Englishmen the Indians came to trust him. The old Narrangansett chief Canonicus, who distrusted whites, came to love Williams as a son; when he was dying he asked that the Englishman come to close his eyes. In his attitude toward property, Williams was as much an economic as a religious egalitarian. In Rhode Island the original distribution of land was in equal shares with Williams keeping but one share for himself; the assignment for use rather than ownership. He was devoid of self-interest , for the Protestant ethic he had no understanding at all. Wealth, success, status, power for Williams these goals were as transient as smoke. The Dutch, who were a leading maritime power in the seventeenth century, established two great trading companies: the Dutch East India Company and the Dutch West India Company. It was the first which sent Henry Hudson to these shores during 1609 in the Half Moon, to search unsuccessfully for a Northwest Passage to India. It was the second which founded New Netherland, now New York, on the North American continent. The Dutch West India Company was chartered by the States General in 1621 for one prime purpose -to make money for its stockholders. It would earn dividends not only through trade but also by making war against Spanish and Portuguese possessions in the New World. So profitable and patriotic did the enterprise appear that by 1623, two years after its founding, subscribers had invested more than seven million guilders in the company. Here was an organization that appeared to be capable of
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- SkeptiNews 000120d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * PLEASE DO NOT INCLUDE THE ENTIRE BULLETIN WHEN YOU REPLY; CUT/PASTE, EH? * Nobody was beheaded to produce this bulletin. We only had to threaten... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Breaking news of the ancient world: http://julen.net/ancient/breaking.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Buffs baffled by UFO. CHICAGO - It is certainly a UFO. It is being called a close encounter of the first kind. But don't expect E.T. to be phoning home just yet. That's because all that sci-fi-like jargon does not neces- sarily mean the enormous triangular object spotted drifting silently thru the crisp night air over southwestern Illinois two weeks ago is from outer space. "To prove something is an alien spacecraft requires a piece of it, requires the aliens to land and say `Here we are,' You can't prove some- thing like this is an alien spacecraft without some extraordinary piece of evidence." Oh bother. http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/ufo19.html $ All the alien artifacts you'll ever need: http://www.alienartifacts.com/ @ Verified UFO Documents: http://www.cufon.org/cufon/cufon-v.htm : What's your favorite alien artifact? Have you collected any/many alien artifacts yet? Are they solid evidence? Did MiB confiscate the artifacts? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Who Needs NASA? Do-it-yrself astropreneurs buck the system to put a schmo into orbit. http://go.wired.com/wired/archive/8.01/schmoes.html/mg20004 # Book Me a Double - With a View of Venus. Leaving Las Vegas Spaceport? Join the 239,000-mile-high club aboard the Bigelow rocket hotel. http://go.wired.com/wired/archive/8.01/rocketman.html/mg20004 : What's your favorite space business? Do you have a space business? Do you have Reptoids as silent partners? Did'ya have to bribe many Grays? How much? # Portable Gizmos: http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=5044 @ At the end of this month SoloTrek http://www.solotrek.com/ will show a product http://www.solotrek.com/mjet/index1.html they claim will enable individual VTOL flight. Either this is a really great web hoax that has the media http://www.bayinsider.com/news/1999/09/10/fox2000_flying.html fooled, or we're really http://www.solotrek.com/mjet/photos.html living in the future. And see http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Gadgets/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Canada: graphic smoke warning. OTTAWA (AP) - With smokers jaded by written warnings, the Canadian govt hopes graphic photos of diseased mouths, lungs brains plastered on cigarette packages will shock them into kicking the habit. New proposed regulations require cigarette makers to cover 50% of each pack with color photos of cigarette-damaged organs or the image of a drooping cigarette to symbolize smoke-caused impotence. Written warnings with the images also would be graphic. One would say: "Warning: tobacco use can make you impotent. Cigarettes may cause sexual impotence due to decreased blood flow to the penis. This can prevent you from having an erection." http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563496406-80b http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_611000/611368.stm : Do you smoke? Does smoke affect alien implants? Are you more likely to be dissuaded from smoking by graphic images, graphic warnings, alien implants, mind-control rays, extended hospitalization? Should I just shoot you dead? # Don't Die, Stay Pretty - The exploding science of superlongevity: http://go.wired.com/wired/archive/8.01/forever.html/mg20004 # Laptops Run on Alcohol. (Wired) Engineers make a tiny battery fueled by methanol that can eliminate recharging for cell phones laptop computers. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,33767,00.html?tw=wn2120 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Beheading teen's parents fined. TOKYO (AP) - The parents of a teen-age boy convicted of beheading a boy, fatally bludgeoning one girl and stabbing another will pay about US$2.85 million in fines and damages to victims' families. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2563497567-e8d : Have you beheaded anyone recently? Did you pay for the privilege? How much would you pay to behead your relatives, neighbors, politicians, cow orkers? # Coveted Crocodile Genitals. NAIROBI (Reuters) Kenyan wildlife wardens had to intervene to stop a group of prostitutes from stealing the genitals from the carcass of a crocodile they killed in Lake Victoria. Yummy: http://news.excite.com/news/r/000120/13/odd-crocodile _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # `Star Trek' could boldly go on forever, to actor's delight: http://www.pioneerplanet.com/seven-days/6/justgo/docs/030570.htm # Snips and Snails and Ribosome Tails - Every kid's dream come true. A dog that never dies - and a best
[CTRL] Freemasonry's Occult, Evil Empire Exposed
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http://www.execpc.com/~amerisub/chapt-04/chapt-04.html#America's most
powerful organization
The Ministry of Biblical Defense presents a Critical Analysis
AMERICA'S SUBVERSION
The Enemy Within
author: Sonny René Stermole
Chapter 4
Roots of an Evil Empire
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Illuminati
Not Just Bricklayers
The goat god
Freemasonry's godfathers
Masonry's "Prime Minister"
Freemasonry's Palladian Rite
The Templar Enigma
Propaganda ?
Masonic Players
The Formidable Machine of Corruption
Legacy of Corruption
Weishaupt's Wish
de-Christianizing the masses
The Masonic Machine
The Outer Form
Crisis Creation
Bill Clinton a man of Masonic Principles ?
Arkansas' "pecuniary evil" ?
Massive Cover-up
Rejecting Masonic Principles
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A word keenly representative of the occult tradition and conspiracy is
"corruption." Perhaps there is no better word conveying the essence of it's
age old practices and teachings. In the occult conspiracy's principle secret
society vehicle, Freemasonry, such is evident by the oaths made in secret,
oaths diametrically opposed to those taken by public officials to uphold
justice. The corruption of the process of justice and the subversion and
corruption of the individual form the basis of corrupting society and points
to a source of inspiration embraced by the expression "empire of evil." Who
are the "Keepers of the Great Plan" and what are their "fundamental
principles"? Who are the Illuminati ? What are their roots?
{Illuminati}
Term first used in fifteenth-century Europe to signify adepts, specifically
those who were quite learned or who possessed "light" from direct
communication with a higher source. It was associated with various occult
sects and secret orders, including the Rosicrucians and the Freemasons.
p. 280 Harper's Encyclopedia of Mystical Paranormal Experience,
Rosemary Ellen Guiley, 1991,
Go to "Top"
What was that "higher source" of "direct communication", for the
Rosicrucians, for Weishaupt's Order of the Illuminati, for the Freemasons of
the Scottish Rite, the Templars ? What are the "roots" of that "invisible
empire" which operates behind the scenes ? What legacy of subversion and
corruption is founded in Freemasonry's organizational roots ? In it's
so-called "spiritual" roots ?
-- Not Just Bricklayers -
Go to "Top"
The "operative" masons of Europe, persons who were literally in the stone
mason trade who formed guilds and lodges, provided not only a pattern of
secrecy for the lodges of "speculative" masons of professionals and
aristocracy in England who formed a new "magical order," but provided a
legacy of subversion and corruption in the very exercise of their trade.
It is generally believed in occult circles that these medieval masons had
inherited esoteric knowledge from their pagan antecedents and this knowledge
was incorporated into the sacred architecture of the cathedrals.
p. 3 The Occult Conspiracy:
Secret Societies --- Their Influence and Power in World History,
Michael Howard, 1989
One person specifically revealing said "incorporation" of "esoteric
knowledge," a former 32 degree Mason and ex-Witch, wrote:
Many of the feasts, saints, and even cathedral sites of the medieval church
were actually pagan feasts, gods, and worship sites. Notre Dame cathedral in
Paris was built on the site of an important Temple to the Horned God of
Witchcraft, Cernunnos.
...
These masons ... were holders of the old religion
p. 180
... paid by the bishops to build cathedrals which they (the masons) would
then encrust with Witchcraft symbols!
p. 181 Masonry: Beyond the Light, William Schnoebelen, 1991
The nature of subversive activity, Schnoebelen has shown, was embodied in
the coded portrayal of magical secrets in Cathedral stone providing a
perpetual record or allegorical reference of their sinister magical crafts.
[Masonry: Beyond the Light, William Schnoebelen, 1991, p. 182]
The depth of subversion could not, however, be seen on the surface, as
archeological investigations have revealed.
Although the masons who built the medieval churches and cathedrals were
nominally Christian, the profusion of pagan symbols and images in these
ancient buildings indicates many of them were still pagans at heart ...
p. 18
While researching a book on witchcraft, the medieval survival of the pagan
old religion, author Michael Harrison came across the work of the late
Professor Gregory Webb of Cambridge University who in 1946 was the secretary
of the Royal Commission on Historical Monuments. ...
In one of the churches surveyed ... Inside the damaged altar Webb and his
team discovered a stone image of a phallus which had been carefully
concealed within the hollowed interior.
... In 90 per cent of all the pre-Reformation churches built before the
outbreak of the bubonic plaque at the end of the fourteenth century, when
church building ceased for a
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] HUD Financial Fraud, Secret Societies Covert Operations: Part Four
From: "Linda Minor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jamie wrote: Mazzini was a 19th century Italian novelist and supporter of the unification of all the small states in Italy into a sovereign nation - and supporter of Garibaldi. The Italians on both sides of the pond revered this man. The sicilians thought they'd get better treatment under a central govt, but they were mistaken. http://www.execpc.com/~amerisub/chapt-04/chapt-04.html author: Sonny René Stermole Chapter 4 Roots of an Evil Empire The "sceptre of the dark empire" was "wrested by Mazzini" from the Carbonari who had assumed the leadership of the "dark empire" by it's Alta Vendita Lodge of blackest Freemasonry following Weishaupt's death or decline. Like Weishaupt, Mazzini viewed Freemasonry as an ideal vehicle or "powerful vehicle" for world revolution. In collusion with an American Confederate General, Albert Pike, Mazzini would reinforce the criminal beginnings of "speculative" Masonry begun in England and forge Mazzini's Masonic Machine. Mazzini, also the father of the Sicilian Mafia, brought Albert Pike whom he had appointed as head of dogma over Freemasonry into the depths of the conspiracy of Illuminist control of Freemasonry. Mazzini had understood that Freemasonry was a powerful lever with which to revolutionize the world, but he saw it divided into numerous rites, often rivals, and even hostile to one another. Aspiring to Italian Unity as a means of breaking the temporal power of the Holy See, he dreamt of a union of masonry throughout the world to destroy the church itself as a spiritual power. .. Mazzini, who was very practical, said that it would be inadvisable to favour one rite only to the exclusion of all the others. In a letter to Albert Pike, dated Jan. 22, 1870, he writes. "We must allow all the federations to continue just as they are, with their systems, their central authorities and their divers modes of correspondence between high grades of the same rite, organized as they are at present, but we must create a supreme rite, which will remain unknown, to which p. 208 we will call those Masons of high degree whom we shall select. With regard to their brothers in masonry, these men must be pledged to the strictest secrecy. Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry which will become the one international centre, the more powerful because its direction will be unknown." p. 209 Albert Pike, in honour of his Templar Baphomet, which was in the keeping of his first and historic Supreme Council, named the order the New and Reformed Palladian Rite or New and Reformed Palladium. p. 215 "To recruit adepts, they planned to use some members of the other rites, but in the beginning they meant to rely principally on those among the initiates of Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rites who were already addicted to occultism. p. 216 Thus it was particularly the initiates of the thirty-third degree Scottish Rites, who, owing to their extensive international ramifications, were privileged to recruit adepts for Palladism. "One will better understand these precautions knowing that Palladism is essentially a Luciferian rite. p. 216 "The Holy See of the Dogma for the whole masonic world was set up at Charleston, the sacred city of the Palladium. Pike, the Sovereign Pontiff of Lucifer, was the president of the Supreme Dogmatic Directory, ... p. 217 One must not lose sight of the fact that Pike occupied simultaneously the positions of Grand Master of the Central Directory of Washington, that of Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of Charleston and that of Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry. p. 221 Occult Theocrasy, Lady Queenborough (Edith Starr Miller), 1933 Albert Pike rose to prominence in Freemasonry learning the "Craft" in Little Rock, Arkansas, whereas the headquarters for the Southern Jurisdiction of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite was located in Charleston, South Carolina since 1801. Later the headquarters was relocated to Washington D.C. and is now the Mother Council of the World. -Original Message- From: Jamie Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 2:23 AM Subject: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] HUD Financial Fraud, Secret Societies Covert Operations: Part Four From: Jamie Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think yu're straining at gnats here- "There was apparently a large group of Italians or Sicilians in the docks who were somehow connected to Mazzini, the Italian organizer of P-2 lodges." Mazzini was a 19th century Italian novelist and supporter of the unification of all the small states in Italy into a sovereign nation - and supporter of Garibaldi. The Italians on both sides of the pond revered this man. The sicilians thought they'd get better treatment under a central govt, but they were mistaken. "My thought here is that these areas were originally settled by Dutch and formed New Netherlands-" New York and New Jersey were settled by the Dutch, but PA
Re: [CTRL] Fw: [Earth First! alert] Urgent! FBI Stand Off at Pine Ridge!]
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Hi all- I sent out a retraction and an apology for forwarding disinformation /or lies which appear to have originated with "NewsHawk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -even to the point of some fabricated bulletin board notices with a series of fake email addresses involved in "straw man" conversation thread. I am sending a copy of this out also, hopefully it will reach most of those who received the "NewsChicken" (new nickname for [EMAIL PROTECTED]) disinformation. I suggest that you keep your judgementalism on hold until you walk a mile in my shoes - as the old saying goes... but I understand and respect your message beyond that first paragraph. best wishes, Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave -Original Message- From: Michael Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 2:13 AM To: John Johnson; David Hartley Subject: FW: Fw: [Earth First! alert] Urgent! FBI Stand Off at Pine Ridge!] Mr. Johnson and Mr. Hartley, I don't know who either of you are except that I know that you're not Sioux. You people, in your frenzy to find something "Indian" to identify with, are putting out this completely inaccurate and incendiary information. There is no confrontation between the FBI and Oglala Tribal President Harold Salway and the protestors. Dale Looks Twice and Eileen Janis, the spokespersons of the protestors, have repeatedly asked that this kind of hyperbole below not be started up. The FBI, Justice Department, and Civil Rights Division representatives are on the scene at the request of the protestors; they've been in meetings for three days straight, getting all the information on the corrupt members, particularly the Treasurer, Wesley 'Chuck' Jacobs. They'll be in Oglala Tribal Court, seeing my friend Judge Steven Emory, tomorrow at 10 am to secure a court order removing Jacobs. As far as the rest of your hyperbole goes: If you consider getting from Rapid City to Pine Ridge (70 miles) in 16 hours as fast as "a duck on a june bug," you must know some starving ducks. The Feds were notified and showed up for meetings on Monday morning. The Oglala Tribal Police are on the side of the protestors; about 60 of them were about to be fired because of the ripoff by SOME members of the OST Council...so whose side do you think they were on? There was never any danger of a "Waco-type" situation. This has been completely calm; members of my own tribe's government, Rosebud Sioux Tribe, are there assisting because we're going to have to take a similar action in the near future. And last, it appears clear that neither of you understand anything about tribal sovereignty. While we're glad that there are non-Sioux who are sympathetic to our problems, the reality is that they are OUR problems. Interfering to help and interfering to hurt both have the same effect for us. We CAN take care of ourselves...how do you think we have managed to be here despite five centuries of genocide? Please, cease and desist in reporting this highly inaccurate information. One more thing - a call has gone out for AIM members and Sioux people to come to support the protestors. It means what it says - Indian members of the American Indian Movement and members of the Oglala, Itazipco, Hunkpapa, O:ohenupa, Mnikhowanzu, Sicangu, and Sihasapa bands of Lakota, the Isanyati, Sisseton, Wahpeton, Wahpekute, and Mdewakanton bands of Dakota, and the Yankton, Yanktonai, and Assiniboine bands of Nakota. This is internal Sioux business; please respect it as such. Sincerely, Mike Two Horses Rosebud/Crow Creek Sioux - Original Message - From: John Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 6:30 PM Subject: [Earth First! alert] Urgent! FBI Stand Off at Pine Ridge!] From: John Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave 1.16.00 URGENT!/FBI-Indian standoff; Pine Ridge Rez! Forward this message as far and widely as possible Feds are putting major heat on a group of Indians at the Pine Ridge reservation who were attempting to demonstrate against corruption and malfeasance within the heavily fed-infiltrated "official" tribal council there. The FBI is said to have been on the scene "INSTANTLY". In light of the TOTAL media blackout enforced by feds in regard to this situation, there are serious concerns on the part of Native Americans and others of some kind of severe, Waco-style tactics being employed at Pine Ridge.It's crucial to help ensure that eventuality can never come to pass; and to do that, we must get the word out regarding what's going on at Pine Ridge right now. So PLEASE, help. The Original Message Here's one that's in-process! I just received a call from one of my Native American friends, and things have gone critical on the Pine Ridge Reservation. At 2 pm today (Sunday, 1/16),
[CTRL] Fwd: [EWAR] Radar weirdness over Pine Ridge
Kent's data is cutting edge research: One research issue is whether the weather data over Pine Ridge is the by product of electrmagnetic pulse EMP weapons used secretly by the government. Of course, it could be a coincidental meteorological anomaly..Alfred Radar weirdness (two days now) right smack-dab over Pine Ridge ORBIT http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html Expanded, FLASH RADAR: http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/flashradar/FLASH2011.htm and: http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/flashradar/FLASH2013.html Kent Radar weirdness (two days now) right smack-dab over Pine Ridge ORBIT http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html Expanded, FLASH RADAR: http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/flashradar/FLASH2011.htm and: http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/flashradar/FLASH2013.html Kent Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List info: www.topica.com/lists/ewar _ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13
[CTRL] [bringitdown] Dealing with Gun Registration
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Fitzhugh MacCrae [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [bringitdown] Dealing with Gun Registration Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 8:51 PM This is how our Canadian cousins deal with gun registration - not that I would suggest that anybody do any of these obviously obstructionist things . . yeah, right. . . . FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE --- GUERILLA TACTICS YOU SHOULD NEVER DO! --- December 4th, 1998 It appears some bright sparks have taken to writing "NEVER" across the firearms registration forms and sending them to Reform MP Garry Breitkruez at his Ottawa office (Room 252, Wellington Building, House of Commons, Ottawa, ON., K1Aá 0A6).á They didn't even need a stamp!á Garry has them in a great big box in the middle of his office and is going to give them to Justice Minister Anne McLellan as a Christmas gift. Ho Ho Ho Another practical joke being played by these very humourous folks is to take a whole stack of registration forms and register guns to their neighbors and other folks picked randomly out of a phone book.á Sometimes these silly people even forget to include the money.á They think it's really funny to have all those people at the CFC phoning fictitious gun owners up to collect ten dollars on a gun that doesn't exist.á They think it's really funny to have the costs of C-68 escalate through the roof! Sometimes they even send the money.á One of these jesters (I think his name was Simon) told me that he registered ten individual guns to ten non gun owners. AND HE INCLUDED THE MONEY.á This zany guy said half the people that received registration cards would complain to the RCMP and they would spend A LOT OF MONEY trying to remove them from their great big "BRANIAC" computer.á But the really funny part was that half the people would simply throw the registration away like junk mail (since they didn't own a gun) and leave half the guns (and owners) in the system.áá The knee slapper here is that these people and guns don't even exist. Now don't misunderstand.á CILA would NEVER recommend these delinquents do such a thing.á These baaad Canadians are trying to damage the Canadian Government's registration system.á Even though measures like these will GRIND THE SYSTEM TO ITS KNEES in short order CILA thinks you should go "baa, baa" and blindly obey the rules. Even though the Government of Canada has declared war on you, you should still obey. ps:á Let me add a few more funny jokes you should never do. Do NOT send in a registration card for the spouse/child of one of the Members of Parliament that started this bill. Do NOT send in registration cards for various people in various parts of the country for a fictitious gun with the SAME serial number. Do NOT send in registration cards for media types that promoted this bill listing various illegal items. And ABOVE ALL DO NOT GIVE UP! Buy Viagra On-Line: http://a-albionic.com/ads/srch.html Shop for Cars On-Line: http://a-albionic.com/ads/srch.html Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary
[CTRL] FW: [CIA-DRUGS] Al Gore and Drugs (II)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave -Original Message- From: David Goldman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Al Gore and Drugs (II) From: David Goldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] INTERVIEW with John C. Warnecke Exclusive to The Week Online By Adam J. Smith John C. Warnecke worked as a reporter for the Nashville Tennessean and was a close personal friend of the Gores. Warnecke is the son of John Carl Warnecke, architect for the John F. Kennedy gravesite. The Week Online spoke with Mr. Warnecke by phone this week. The Week Online: Mr. Warnecke, Vice President Gore has said that he used marijuana 'on several occasions' and 'not since he was twenty-four.' But you say that you have first-hand knowledge that his use was more extensive than he has previously admitted? John C. Warnecke: Yes, I do. I have first hand knowledge that he has not told the truth about his drug use. Al Gore and I smoked regularly, as buddies. Marijuana, hash. I was his regular supplier. I didn't deal dope, I just gave it to him. We smoked more than once, more than a few times, we smoked a lot. We smoked in his car, in his house, we smoked in his parents' house, in my house we smoked on weekends. We smoked a lot. Al Gore and I were smoking marijuana together right up to the time that he ran for Congress in 1976. Right up through the week he declared for that race, in fact. WOL: And after that? JCW: After that he began to distance himself from me. I was bad for his political career. WOL: During the course of the 1988 campaign, you told the New York Times and the Nashville Tennessean that you had smoked marijuana with Al Gore JCW: A few times. And I told them that he didn't like it. WOL: Why didn't you tell the truth at that time? JCW: I was put under a lot of pressure to lie. WOL: Who was pressuring you? JCW: The answer to that question is in the excerpt that Newsweek decided not to run. It's in the Turque book. Right now, I'm going to leave it at that. WOL: So what made you decide to come forward now? JCW: It's because I've been under a lot of stress. My conscience has been killing me ever since then. I actually came forward months ago when Bill (Turque) interviewed me for the book. I had been told that this story would come out, that the public would know this by now. But then the book date was pushed back, and Newsweek pulled the story. The only thing that I can assume is that Newsweek is covering this up, protecting the Gore campaign by refusing to run this before the primaries. I decided that I had to go ahead and tell it. I really feel that the public has a right to know this at this time, and I was having trouble living with myself being part of the hypocrisy and the lies. WOL: Hypocrisy? JCW: Yes. The drug laws in this country are ruining the lives of hundreds of thousands of young people, mostly poor young people, people who don't come from privileged backgrounds and wealthy families. It just doesn't make sense that we have a war on drugs. It doesn't work, and the politicians refuse to talk about it. That suffering and that hypocrisy has weighed very heavily on my conscience. I have a saying that I use, and that is: "who raised you?" In other words, were you raised with a conscience? Mine has made my life very difficult ever since I became part of the hypocrisy. I couldn't live with the lie anymore. Not and stay sober. WOL: How long have you been sober? JCW: Twenty-one years. WOL: Congratulations. So, after twenty-one years of sobriety, do you consider Al Gore a criminal for his drug use? JCW: I don't consider drug use a criminal act. Is drug use a poor choice? Yes. Is it risky behavior? Yes. Does it make any sense --
[CTRL] Dr. Deborah Lipstadt response to Irving lawsuit
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[CTRL] About Northern NJ MC Victims
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- ABOUT MC/WARES VICTIMS - By Judith ABR c [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2000 Introduction This article is prompted by a scenario I witnessed occur from 1991 - 1993 in northern New Jersey. The names used here are real. The people are real. The situations I describe here I witnessed first-hand. None of these victims however have identified themselves as victims of "mind control" organizations, cults or crime syndicates, thus what is described here is what this author witnessed concerning these people's lives and conclusions she has drawn from these situations. All of these people, this author now believes, were brutalized by crime syndicates using the most heinous of weaponry implants and electronic frequency weapons and all lived on this one particular floor of this exclusive apartment building. This is one account, among probably many many thousands in the United States, which probably occurred during this time period and remains unaccounted for in the annals of history. Judith ABR _ In September of 1990 I moved from a studio apartment in lower Manhattan to a small, quaint, hip and wealthy New Jersey city not far away. My salary had doubled that year, I was a published author and administrator working 9 to5 in a well known national arts institution. I wanted a much nicer personal apartment space than the one room apartment I had in Little Italy and I found one. This was a super top floor duplex with a small real fireplace and a nice second floor balcony overlooking a distant view of Manhattan's skyline. I was only 30 minutes from Wall Street via subway and it was pricey. The apartment building was one of the nicest in the area too and expensive because it had a 24 hour doorman. But, as I moved in I also noticed a lot of apartments being vacated, the place had a large turn-around rate and it was very big something like 400 apartments in the huge entire block building. What began to occur next was a lot of superficial details. But later they added up. And I later began to realize that this building was haunted by a crime syndicate which was really doing some bad damage to residents there. And among others I too was being used by syndicates. It wasn't until I left the apartment building that I realized how much. MARY When I first moved into the apartment I met a Jewish single girl named Mary L. She was having problems always agitated, she complained of all this white powder accumulating for unknown reasons in her apartment daily. Mary was having personal problems, so was her small Jewish brother living in a totally blackened studio apartment in Manhattan. Mary moved to another town, moved into a run-down apartment and tried to adopt three kids. Mary was a bright journalist with a budding career writing for well know publications but living on her own. Mary had constant problems after leaving this apartment building and wound up giving up the kids I believe. She bought for a time a house but I believe it never quite worked out. I don't know what happened to her. JEREMY The residents around me used in these vicious games included a late 30-something English guy named Jeremy married to a very beautiful Phillipino woman a few years his younger. Jeremy was a highly successful woman's clothing designer affiliated with a very well known national mail order catalog. Jeremy traveled to Europe twice a year for fashion/design shows and made a salary nearly in the six figures. At the time this was very high and he was at the height of his career as one of only two designers with the firm. Jeremy came from San Francisco and had somehow run into some problem there. He said he had an intestinal condition which would not clear up, they wound up calling it Crones' disease and he had had an operation or two prior to coming to NJ for it. In late 1992, suddenly Jeremy became worse and had to have another operation for this. He was embittered, he was angry, his body too was sort of electric/magnetic. He didn't seem to like women, but he was dating a Black girl and this was ending his marriage. His wife, meantime, was dating a Black guy, a well known jazz piano player with a known jazz group which traveled frequently to Europe. I remember Jeremy taking great interest and pleasure in my antique fine condition 60s Volvo it was a pretty car and one which he admired. Jeremy warned me to be careful of doctors and "not get into surgery" "especially you," he said. This was just as he was going into surgery. The surgery didn't go well only 38 years old the guy was deteriorating and more electric. My take now is that he was further getting implanted and being used in wares games syndicate stories. The crime elements weren't stopping. They may have chased him into NJ from
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] HUD Financial Fraud, Secret Societies Covert Operations: Part Five
ttFrom:/tt tt quot;Catherine Austin Fittsquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/tt brbr !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN" HTML HEAD META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR /HEAD BODY DIVSPAN class=310212206-21012000FONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2As part five I am sending a memo I wrote to Mike Ruppert last summer to provide a framework on how I thought our two worlds would mesh and what some of the issues that would determine the future might be./FONT/SPAN/DIV DIVSPAN class=310212206-21012000FONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2/FONT/SPANnbsp;/DIV DIVSPAN class=310212206-21012000FONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2==/FONT/SPAN/DIV DIVSPAN class=310212206-21012000FONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2/FONT/SPANnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face="Arial Black" size=7 PMemo/P DIR DIR/FONTFONT face="Arial Black" size=1 PTo:/FONTFONT face=Arial size=2 Mike Ruppert/P/FONTFONT face="Arial Black" size=1 PFrom:/FONTFONT face=Arial size=2 Catherine Fitts/P/FONTFONT face="Arial Black" size=1 PCC:/FONTFONT face=Arial size=2 Solari Team on Gideon; DBR/FONTFONT face=Arial size=2/P/FONTFONT face="Arial Black" size=1 PRe:/FONTFONT face=Arial size=2 A Simple Whole World Setting for Convergence of Community Development and Drug Related Covert Operations/P/DIR/DIR/FONTFONT face="Arial Black" size=3 PPurpose of Memorandum/P/FONTFONT face=Arial size=2 P align=justifyI have been musing on what picture I could paint that would help us look at our mutual worlds whole. What picture would help us take these different pieces of the jigsaw puzzle and lay them down in a way that we could integrate what we know in a simple and compelling way./P/FONTFONT face="Arial Black" size=3 PItrsquo;s Just Us Chickens/P/FONTFONT face=Arial size=2 P align=justifyOne way to think about this is to look at this in terms of people and market share. There are approximately 300 million people in America. You can count them up in different ways. Voters, taxpayers, citizens, consumers, savers and investors. You can break them down in different ways: male, female, old, young, black, white. One way to describe them is to group them by place. There are approximately 60,000 neighborhoods of approximately 5,000 people. We tend to put them into meta-groups of urban, suburban and rural and East, North, Middle, South and West. /P P align=justifyWe have two quot;votingquot; systems for their optimization of resources. One voting system is called democracy. That is what allocates about half the money and the legal rules that influence 100% of the money. This money is organized into organizations who provide products and services for communities or overall services for all communities like national security. The other is called free markets. This money is organized into organizations that make and distribute products and services to both communities and broader intra-and inter-community markets. That is why to understand money you need a model of how different kinds of organizations work, different kinds of communities and then how government process or private markets interconnect the trading in and between them./P P align=justifyBoth systems depend on open shared disclosure, competitive process and protection from risk afforded by the constitution to function. That is why when rapid economic change is upon a society, the folks hoping to hold on to one or both pots of money a little bit longer to amortize their sunk costs and maintain their power, try to stop open disclosure and competitive process./P P align=justifyOne of the things that is interesting about reading conspiracy theory is that much of what folks think is conspiracy is really many people acting in concert to make or protect their money. The organizing principle is often government or organized crime money, and itrsquo;s interaction with the private markets. When the money is legal private market money, it is very easy for folks to see and understand the swarm as like minded or like-incentivized people acting in concert on a dispersed basis./P P align=justifyThe way to see something simple is to just look at one little neighborhood and then multiple that times 60,000. I am reminded of one of my partners who grew up in the Caribbean when asked why he had such a great understanding of the American economy said to me quot;Because, unlike most Americans, I understand that the United States is just a very big island. What goes around comes around, it just takes longer than on a real island.quot; /P P align=justifyNaturally, when I look at a neighborhood, I look at the money. Money is an organizing principle that reflects all the consumer quot;votesquot; and democratic quot;votesquot;, albeit in a rigged and unilluminated system. /P/FONTFONT face="Arial Black" size=3 PLooking
Re: [CTRL] Where's The Outrage?? Religious Freedom DENIED!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Well, I agree with the first few examples, although the example of the Holocaust might be questioned on the grounds that while it was indeed carried out by a Christian society and drew on anti-Semitism rooted in Christian beliefs, the architects were somewhat contemptuous of such beliefs and as far as I know, did not commit their vile act it in the name of God but to realise the pseudo-scientific goal of maintaining racial hygiene. The architects were Nazis. Nazism is a religion in its own right. Quite true. However, the men who actually did the killing were mainly Lutherans, Catholics and Eastern Orthodox. The Germans wore a uniform which featured a belt buckle which said "God is with us." They killed thirteen million people in the camps alone, but the real Holocaust is what they did to Russia. They killed between twenty and fifty million Russians (depending on whose version you believe). REAL Christians, i.e., the followers of the teachings of Jesus himself, would have refused the Nazi's orders. The brings forth the fundamental problem of Christianity anyway in which many God-fearing folk seem to ignore one of the Ten Commandments JC's view that you just shouldn't kill or hurt people. My real gripe, however, is with your contention that current activity in Iraq is a good example of Christians taking innocent blood. You only chose that because it suits your ideological mindset. I would contend that it is somewhat removed the example of the Crusades as the decision to bomb Iraq was made by a nominally Christian politician, and not by a cleric. It isn't religiously inspired. Neither were the Crusades. They were a land grab, plain and simple. No. Don't fall into the trap of Marxist theory which holds that all human activity should be understood in terms of economic gain. There was real faith at work in the Crusades, for every knight there were hundreds of paupers motivated by belief. Don't forget the Children's Crusade, one particularly tragic product of that faith. And besides faith and greed, there was also less controversial motives of self-interest such as escaping famine, overpopulation etc. Religion was just an excuse. Religion is not the excuse in Iraq Nevertheless, religious men, men who call themselves Christians, have murdered half a million Muslims so far in their siege of Iraq. Almost all have been women and children. It doesn't matter why they did it. What matters is that they do not refuse to do it. Jesus would refuse. Why do those who claim to worship him not refuse? Is this not hypocricy? Ultimately it is hypocrisy. But let's split hairs here to get to the bottom of the issue which was originally raised when Satanists were accused of child sacrifice. Christianity as practised over the ages has failed to conform with JC's preaching in three ways: at the instruction of the Church the innocent have been killed as in the Crusades, Inquisition, Conquistadors; the Church has supported the killing of the innocent, or at least killing par se, by the state, as in Church support for the governments of both sides in WW1 2 and any other conflict you can care to mention over the past couple of hundred years involving Christian states; and finally, in defiance of Christian teachings about the wrongness of killing, many individual Christians have willingly participated in atrocities, from butchering idigenes in the colonies through the Holocaust to bombing civilians in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, backing cruel dictatorships around the world. Not child sacrifice, but something far more insidious and worrying methinks. BD A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gennifer Flowers sues Hillary
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 20, 2000 Contact: Joe Giganti (202) 646-5172 GENNIFER FLOWERS SUES "FIRST LADY" HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON INITIAL COMPLAINT SUED JAMES CARVILLE AND GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS (Washington, D.C.) Today, Gennifer Flowers amended her complaint previously filed in the United States District Court for the District of Nevada, alleging libel and slander against James Carville and George Stephanopoulos. Because of newly discovered information that Hillary Rodham Clinton was the mastermind, who implemented and carried out a scheme to destroy, or in Hillary Rodham Clinton's words "crucify," Gennifer Flowers, Hillary Rodham Clinton was added to the complaint. Plaintiff anticipates that this lawsuit, which is not complicated, will proceed to trial quickly, and be held before a jury of Ms. Flowers' peers in Las Vegas. Mr. Carville, who has called Ms. Flowers, and nearly every other woman regrettably associated with the President, "trailer trash," will have to explain to jurors, many of whom are likely to live in trailers, exactly what he meant. In Judicial Watch's class-action Filegate lawsuit, Plaintiffs learned that Carville ran an information gathering operation on perceived adversaries to the Clintons and their Administration, called the Education Information Project, out of a chic townhouse which he owns and occupies with Mary Matalin on Capitol Hill. Recently, it was learned that Mrs. Clinton threatened to author Gail Sheehy that she would "crucify" Gennifer Flowers by digging up "dirt" with which to smear her. Author Christopher Anderson also has recently revealed that Mrs. Clinton "sicced" private investigators on Ms. Flowers. The suit, in addition to its defamation counts, alleges violation of privacy rights against Mrs. Clinton. A copy of the Amended Complaint will be posted on Judicial Watch's website at www.JudicialWatch.org. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] socialist agenda 4 the family behind U.S. social policy
far and wide. (the supporters of the rapist are gonna 'love' this Post!) FREE MARKET Commentary by Lew Rockwell Reprinted from The FREE MARKET Published by the Ludwig von Mises Institute http://www.vonmises.org/ June 1998 Mises on the Family G.K. Chesterton [http://www.chesterton.org/] called the family an anarchistic institution. He meant that it requires no act of the state to bring it about. Its existence flows from fixed realities in the nature of man, with its form refined by the development of sexual norms and the advance of civilization. This observation is consistent with a brilliant discussion of the family in Ludwig von Mises's masterwork Socialism, first published in 1922. Why did Mises address family and marriage in an economics book refuting socialism? He understood-unlike many economists today-that the opponents of the free society have a broad agenda that usually begins with an attack on this most crucial bourgeois institution. "Proposals to transform the relations between the sexes have long gone hand in hand with plans for the socialization of the means of production," Mises observes. "Marriage is to disappear along with private property Socialism promises not only welfare wealth for all but universal happiness in love as well." Mises noted that August Bebel's Woman Under Socialism, a paean to free love published in 1892, was the most widely read left-wing tract of its time. This linkage of socialism and promiscuity had a tactical purpose. If you don't buy the never-never land of magically appearing prosperity, then you can focus on the hope for liberation from sexual responsibility and maturity. The socialists proposed a world in which there would be no social impediments to unlimited personal pleasure, with the family and monogamy being the first impediments to go. Would this plan work? No chance, said Mises: the socialist program for free love is as impossible as its economic one. They are both contrary to the restraints inherent in the real world. The family, like the structure of the market economy, is a product not of policy but of voluntary association, made necessary by biological and social realities. Capitalism reinforced marriage and family because it insisted on consent in all social relations. The family and capitalism thus share a common institutional and ethical foundation. By attempting to abolish them, the socialists would replace a society based on contract with one based on violence. The result would be total societal collapse. When the democratic socialists Sidney and Beatrice Webb traveled to the Soviet Union, a decade after Mises's book, they reported a different reality. They found women, liberated from the yoke of family and marriage, living happy and fulfilled lives. It was as much a fantasy actually a bloody lie-as their claim that Soviet society was becoming the most prosperous in history. No sane intellectual embraces full-blown social economics anymore, but a watered-down version of the socialist agenda for the family is the driving force behind much of U.S. social policy. This agenda goes hand in hand with the hobbling of the market economy in other areas. It is no accident that the rise of free love in the U.S. accompanied the rise of the fully developed welfare state. The goals of liberation from work (and saving and investment) and liberation from our sexual natures stem from a similar ideological impulse: to overcome fixed realities in nature. The family has suffered as a result, just as Mises predicted it would. While the advocates of the family and the proponents of capitalism should be united in a single political agenda of smashing the interventionist state, they typically are not. Family advocates, even conservative ones, often decry finance capitalism as an alienating force, and advocate ill-advised policies like tariffs, union monopolies, and wage floors for married people. At the same time, free enterprisers show little interest in the genuine concerns of family advocates. And neither seems interested in the radical attack on both freedom and family life that government policies like child labor laws, public schooling, Social Security, high taxes, and socialized medicine represent. In Mises's view, this breech is unnecessary.
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Jamie, I've posted the study I've done on this mark of the beast several times... http://www.lambsheart.com/fourwinds/mark.html You can go there for a more indepth study of the subject... First, let me ask you... WHAT is *in* your forehead??? Let's hope it's your frontal brain lobe. That particular part of the brain has been scientifically proven to be that part which governs your thoughts [involving the mind] and actions [the works of your hands] . THIS is where you are marked... *IN* your mind, in your spirit (which is the intellect of the soul), which causes the hands to perform for what you believe or what you are governed by. If you don't want to go to the study site, and want a brief reason why I believe what I believe... It's because of what the Bible bears witness to certain facts... The mark of Cain was not physical. Scripture? Genesis 4:10-15 The Hebrew word for mark as used in this Genesis account regarding Cain, is Strong's Concordance (Hebrew) #226 - owth (oth), which means - a signal, as a flag beacon or monument, omen, progeny (offspring), evidence, miracle, ensign, token. God gave Cain a pledge or promise that he should not be slain. This being spiritual in nature. It is not saying that He literally placed a tattoo, color, or anything that can be seen by man, upon Cain. If God had marked Cain with a physical marking, He would have placed him into a position where all would know who saw him *would* kill him, which would be contrary to God's negative purpose of keeping Cain and his offspring alive until the end of this earth age (to the last generation). God gave Cain His protection from being killed so that His negative purpose could be finally accomplished in these, the last days. When studying God's Word it is necessary to research all possibilities of the subject at hand, in order to find the true meaning, and that which God intended for us to know. Study is ordered so as to show oneself approved as we are taught in 2 Timothy 2:15. Most importantly, once you have researched a subject for yourself, and you, yourself have actually done the footwork, there is no margin of error left in interpretation. For certainly no part of the scripture is of any private interpretation, as we are taught by Peter (2 Peter 1:20-21). Always look it up and study a thing for yourself, even if someone shows you the way to a study. You can settle any issue by being certain of your own research! Let it not be said that you are one that 'wrestles' with the scripture as we are taught in 2 Peter 3:16-18. The marks that we are concerned with here in this study, is the "mark of God", and the "mark of the beast". The word "mark" in the Greek is Strong's Concordance #5480 charagma (khar-ag-ma) as used in Revelation 9:4 and 13:18 which means 'brand' or 'a badge of servitude'. We are speaking here of the servitude of Christ or the servitude of the antichrist (one who comes in the stead of Christ). These marks are literally *in* the forehead, and/or *in* the right hand. The mark [seal] of God is recognizable and *discerned* by what you do with the knowledge of God's Word and it's purpose through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Here we are dealing with the workings of God through what the prophets taught, and what Jesus taught. The mark of the beast system, is dealing with the teachings and workings of man [6], who teaches traditions and doctrinal requirements which are not in God's Word, but are very important in this sense of this mark of servitude. We are also dealing in the same respect with the teachings of satan or satan's works which is also a part of the servitude spoken of. This mark of servitude is very important. What you believe in your mind, also known as the 'heart', which is located *in your forehead* where the brain contains the governing part of your mind; and what you do with your (right) hand, which is the the works you produce because of your beliefs in your mind, determines precisely which mark you actually bear. This 'mark of servitude' is truly a spiritual mark. Anyone who would tell you such nonsense that it is a card, bar code, tattoo, or computer chip implant or anything else for that matter, is dealing in speculation of what the mark truly is. Why would you believe in speculation? God was very exact and true in explaining this mark, and has gone out of His way to make sure we understand it in truth. Just remember that the mark of the beast is not something you can see outwardly. Emphatically, it is *not* a tattoo, a card, barcode, or a computer chip of any kind. As stated, those ideas came from people who "speculate" on what the mark of the beast is. If you find yourself believing that the mark of the beast is any of those nonsensical things, check out what God has said about it in His Word. This will be the only way you can know the truth within yourself and settle this issue to know which mark you possess.
[CTRL] Re: Waco: A New Revelation - A review
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Whoa, Gavin, stirred up quite abit of disnformationlist. It is getting thick. A running "battle over 100+ postings. Trying to turn it into a left-right debate. Transcend the BS. Onwards to the Utmost of Futures. Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:589481"Re: Waco: A New Revelation - Nope. Same Old Gun Buddy Paranoia!/A - Subject: Re: Waco: A New Revelation - Nope. Same Old Gun Buddy Paranoia! From: "SilverBullet" A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"NunYaDamnBi [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Mon, 17 January 2000 11:52 PM EST Message-id: LkSg4.2287$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Volt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:37:55 -0500, "Silverbullet" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the public post. This is the shame of our gov't leaders who brought us to this end. May they all burn in Hell for what they did to those poor innocent people. Burn? Like your baby raping hero Jesus of Waco? No. Like your baby killing heros Bill Clinton and Janet Reno. So much for militia nonsense. So much for volt's bullshit. Here are the facts: A HREF="http://clusterfucked.home.mindspook.com/waco.html"http://clusterfu cked.home.mindspook.com/waco.html/A Kinda short on facts at that site. If it's facts you want, forget the clusterfuck site. Try these; A HREF="http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/picturethis.html"http://www.wizardso faz.com/waco/picturethis.html/A A HREF="http://www.saf.org/journal/6_waco.html"http://www.saf.org/journal/6_ waco.html/A A HREF="http://www.ian.goddard.net/wacorom2.htm"http://www.ian.goddard.net/w acorom2.htm/A A HREF="http://www.jubilee-newspaper.com/waco3.html"http://www.jubilee-newsp aper.com/waco3.html/A A HREF="http://www.mnsinc.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/"http://www.mnsinc.com/Sk yWriter/WacoMuseum//A - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cat, bag, escape: Scotland Yard, the FBI, and sporgery attacks
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:589329"Cat, bag, escape: Scotland Yard, the FBI, and sporgery attacks/A - Subject: Cat, bag, escape: Scotland Yard, the FBI, and sporgery attacks From: "Xenu Fredric Xenu L. Xenu Rice Xenu" A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Mon, 17 January 2000 11:40 AM EST Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's probably not been much of a secret but the technology isn't that difficult when the relevant parties co-operate. The sporgers who still read this forum and fume in impotent anger, please take note: -=- In extracta -=- A HREF="http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/01/16/stinwenws01028.html ?999"http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/01/16/stinwenws01028.html ?999/A Scotland Yard's computer crime unit is now scrutinising e-mail traffic between several known hackers in England and Scotland. Last month officers from the unit flew to Hopeman, a Scottish fishing village, and seized equipment from the home of James Grant, who works for a local computer company. He has been interviewed by detectives and Visa security experts. -=- End extracta -=- Some of the Internet Service Providers that were attacked by the sporgers from 19/Nov/98 to 12/Oct/99 checked the e-mail sent and received by and to their attackers and said information was archived and forwarded to significant authorities. I wasn't made privy to the information contained within the suspect sporger's e-mail and I don't know whether any of the Rabbit Hunters managed to get details, but apparently a few of the sporgers were dumb enough to coordinate their DOS attacks through e-mail and in doing so, named the organization they were working for. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CIA arms dealer framed by Justice Department ?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:589767"CIA arms dealer framed by Justice Department ?/A - Subject: CIA arms dealer framed by Justice Department ? From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (E Right) Date: Wed, 19 January 2000 11:05 AM EST Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CIA arms dealer framed by Justice Department "I'm not surprised that a federal prosecutor introduces false evidence, and anyone who is surprised just has no understanding of what the criminal justice system is like," David Adler, Wilson lawyer and a former CIA officer, said Tuesday. "What is surprising is how well the Justice Department and the CIA documented their efforts to conceal the lie." - AP ARTICLE: HOUSTON (AP 1/18/00) - The Justice Department acknowledged in a court filing made public Tuesday that the lead prosecutor in the 1983 arms-dealing case against former CIA officer Edwin P. Wilson introduced testimony about Wilson's post-agency activities he knew was not correct, despite warnings from CIA lawyers about its accuracy. The revelation comes in the government's response to Wilson's Sept. 8 appeal of that conviction, which was for shipping 20 tons of C-4 plastic explosives from Houston's Intercontinental Airport to Libya. Wilson's defense was that the CIA had authorized him to ingratiate himself with the Libyan government for intelligence-gathering purposes. The testimony in question concerns an affidavit in court records from CIA executive director Charles Briggs, then the No. 3 agency official, which swore "Wilson was not asked or requested, directly or indirectly, to perform or provide any services, directly or indirectly, for CIA," after his 1971 retirement. That affidavit was re-read to jurors at their request; an hour later, they returned a guilty verdict. However, Wilson's appeal included dozens of once-classified documents showing CIA lawyers argued with prosecutors against using the affidavit as then written. According to the documents, Wilson had some 80 contacts with the CIA from his retirement through 1978 and provided a variety of services at the government's request, including arranging gun sales to a Saudi Arabian ... Then the CIA's top lawyer, Sporkin called Greenberg, the lead Wilson prosecutor, and told him "it was a bad idea to use the declaration. Mr. Greenberg responded that the use of the declaration was vital to his case and he intended to use it," according to a March 15, 1983, memo in the government's filing. Another memo from Wilson's appeal shows that Sporkin argued that "at minimum, the word 'indirectly' should be removed." After the conversation on Feb. 3, Greenberg introduced the testimony in the courtroom. The Justice Department argues that Wilson failed to offer any evidence of CIA authorization specific to the charge against him, and is therefore is not entitled to a new trial. ER Why, because THEY withheld evidence? Is this a FRAME? "I'm not surprised that a federal prosecutor introduces false evidence, and anyone who is surprised just has no understanding of what the criminal justice system is like," David Adler, Wilson lawyer and a former CIA officer, said Tuesday. "What is surprising is how well the Justice Department and the CIA documented their efforts to conceal the lie." -- By C. BRYSON HULL READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE AT: A HREF="http://www.express-news.net/auth/ennews/ap/texas/d0684.html"http://w ww.express-news.net/auth/ennews/ap/texas/d0684.html/A re: Government acknowledges Wilson was working for CIA -- Privacy - News - Electronic Freedom Organizations A HREF="http://www.wired.com/"http://www.wired.com//A technology / privacy news A HREF="http://www.epic.org/"http://www.epic.org//A Subscribe to their Alert newsletter! A HREF="http://www.gilc.org/"http://w ww.gilc.org//A Global Internet Liberty Campaign A HREF="http://www.eff.org/"http://www.eff.org//A Electronic Freedom Foundation A HREF="http://www.aclu.org/privacy"http://www.aclu.org/privacy/ A American Civil Liberties Union A HREF="http://www.fff.org/"http://www.fff.org//A Future of Freedon Foundation (Libertarian) A HREF="http://www.Federalist.com"http://www.Federalist.com/A - political + constitutional govt. A HREF="http://www.lp.org/"http://www.lp.org//A Libertarian Party - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- actually the Greek meaning for the word ' in ' in Revelation referring to the ' mark' at least in my concordance.means to incise- to put into.which is physical, a putting into as it were,..and w/out it no man shall buy, sale, or trade..lests he receives itso, for other people to recognize that one wouldn't not be able to these things, it would have to be physical..indeed, that's why i personally think it has to be a small computer chip...but, regardless it comes down to more gov. control, which i would strongly object toand so should everyone else who has half a brain.think about the repercussions... just my lille ol opinion ks Eagle 1 wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Jamie, I've posted the study I've done on this mark of the beast several times... http://www.lambsheart.com/fourwinds/mark.html You can go there for a more indepth study of the subject... First, let me ask you... WHAT is *in* your forehead??? Let's hope it's your frontal brain lobe. That particular part of the brain has been scientifically proven to be that part which governs your thoughts [involving the mind] and actions [the works of your hands] . THIS is where you are marked... *IN* your mind, in your spirit (which is the intellect of the soul), which causes the hands to perform for what you believe or what you are governed by. If you don't want to go to the study site, and want a brief reason why I believe what I believe... It's because of what the Bible bears witness to certain facts... The mark of Cain was not physical. Scripture? Genesis 4:10-15 The Hebrew word for mark as used in this Genesis account regarding Cain, is Strong's Concordance (Hebrew) #226 - owth (oth), which means - a signal, as a flag beacon or monument, omen, progeny (offspring), evidence, miracle, ensign, token. God gave Cain a pledge or promise that he should not be slain. This being spiritual in nature. It is not saying that He literally placed a tattoo, color, or anything that can be seen by man, upon Cain. If God had marked Cain with a physical marking, He would have placed him into a position where all would know who saw him *would* kill him, which would be contrary to God's negative purpose of keeping Cain and his offspring alive until the end of this earth age (to the last generation). God gave Cain His protection from being killed so that His negative purpose could be finally accomplished in these, the last days. When studying God's Word it is necessary to research all possibilities of the subject at hand, in order to find the true meaning, and that which God intended for us to know. Study is ordered so as to show oneself approved as we are taught in 2 Timothy 2:15. Most importantly, once you have researched a subject for yourself, and you, yourself have actually done the footwork, there is no margin of error left in interpretation. For certainly no part of the scripture is of any private interpretation, as we are taught by Peter (2 Peter 1:20-21). Always look it up and study a thing for yourself, even if someone shows you the way to a study. You can settle any issue by being certain of your own research! Let it not be said that you are one that 'wrestles' with the scripture as we are taught in 2 Peter 3:16-18. The marks that we are concerned with here in this study, is the "mark of God", and the "mark of the beast". The word "mark" in the Greek is Strong's Concordance #5480 charagma (khar-ag-ma) as used in Revelation 9:4 and 13:18 which means 'brand' or 'a badge of servitude'. We are speaking here of the servitude of Christ or the servitude of the antichrist (one who comes in the stead of Christ). These marks are literally *in* the forehead, and/or *in* the right hand. The mark [seal] of God is recognizable and *discerned* by what you do with the knowledge of God's Word and it's purpose through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Here we are dealing with the workings of God through what the prophets taught, and what Jesus taught. The mark of the beast system, is dealing with the teachings and workings of man [6], who teaches traditions and doctrinal requirements which are not in God's Word, but are very important in this sense of this mark of servitude. We are also dealing in the same respect with the teachings of satan or satan's works which is also a part of the servitude spoken of. This mark of servitude is very important. What you believe in your mind, also known as the 'heart', which is located *in your forehead* where the brain contains the governing part of your mind; and what you do with your (right) hand, which is the the works you produce because of your beliefs in your mind, determines precisely which mark you actually bear. This 'mark of servitude' is truly a spiritual mark. Anyone who would
[CTRL] LPFM passed!!!!!!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- The word so far is: It looks like LPFM will have two classes: 1 - 10 watts 50 to 100 watts Antenna: maximum of 30 meters HAAT. Operation: minimum of 36 hours a week. Programming: NCFM. Political broadcasting will be under similar rules as current licensees must observe. Ownership: This would seem to restrict ownership to local community groups, schools/universities, local governments, and churches (Local churches only? Not known as yet). There will be "one LPFM to a market" at first, with additional stations possible in "a year or two". (This will make a lot of the local "activists" real "happy"). Winning applicants will be chosen on a "point system" with longer existing organizations getting additional points. Misc: There will be "some" required participation in EAS. No "Public Inspection File". Short "Windows" may open as soon as May. Those who operated the "pirate" stations and refused to stop when "busted" will not be allowed to get the new licenses. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- It doesn't matter what it is, we won't be here to see it. But I disagree, it is physical thing. Don't be so sure that we won't be here. The rapture theory is just that: A theory. I encourage you to reread for yourself what is said in the Bible about this and see that there is no pre-trib rapture mentioned anywhere. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [6] Understanding Special Operations - Appendix B
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: http://www.prouty.org/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.prouty.org/"The Col. L. Fletcher Prouty Reference Site/A - Appendix B Copies of NSAMs 263 and 273, and Some Primary Supporting Documents Contained herein are copies of National Security Action Memorandum Number 263 (10/11/63), Number 273 (11/26/63), and some of their primary supporting documents. These representations are taken from Foreign Relations of the United States, Volume IV, Vietnam August-December 1963 (Dept. of State Publication 9857), published in 1991 by the U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402. Fletcher describes his participation as one of General Krulak's principal writers for the text that became NSAM 263 beginning on page 70, JFK Prepares To Get Out Of Vietnam: The Taylor/McNamara Trip Report of October 1963 and NSAM 263. As explained in the first paragraph of the Preface of FRUS, vol IV: The publication Foreign Relations of the United States constitutes the official record of the foreign policy of the United States. The volumes in the series include, subject to necessary security considerations, all documents needed to give a comprehensive record of the major foreign policy decisions of the United States together with appropriate materials concerning the facts that contributed to the formulation of policies. In early 1992, after learning about the existence of this new publication from Fletcher, I obtained a copy and studied portions of it. We were discussing the prevalence of journalists and university professors who themselves are not acquainted with such historically precise information. Fletcher summed up the situation in this way: I was doing a TV show to Australia, live, night before last. And there was a man from Los Angeles talking about the subject [JFK and Vietnam], and, my word he hadn't even read this book. At the end of the show the man from Australia -- the host of the show -- asked me, "What do think is going to be the value of opening the files with respect to the Kennedy murder?" I replied, "I can't see it being worth a darn. Here we are listening to people who haven't even cracked the books that are opened, and if they have, they don't understand what's in them. I don't see that this will make a damn bit of difference. If people aren't going to read books that are available, why talk about reading books that aren't available?" This is the key to this subject. If people don't read material like this -- where one can see that 263 is completely spelled out. All of the meetings that were held -- there were over 50 meetings held before NSAM 263 was published. And here are these uninformed people that are professors in college, important writers in big magazines, and they haven't even read this primary source material. Signed by President Johnson four days after President Kennedy's murder, NSAM 273 was extraordinarily significant given the fact that for the first time the stated goal of the U.S. was altered to be that of helping the South Vietnamese government win the war: It remains the central object of the United States in South Vietnam to assist the people and Government of that country to win their contest against the externally directed and supported Communist conspiracy. This sort of wording was something President Kennedy had steadfastly vetoed when it had been proposed by some of his military advisors a number of times in the past. Thus NSAM 273 explicitly delineated the beginning of the reversal of JFK's policy that had begun to take explicit shape with the signing of NSAM 263. This despite the fact that one of LBJ's most common phrases after the assassination and during his 1964 campaign was "let us continue." This breach was further obfuscated by such statements as "It remain s the central object of the United States in South Vietnam . . . " Such declarations indicated the discontinuity with events that were unfolding and being directed by President Kennedy prior to November 22, 1963. For anyone interested in learning about the historical background and context for such affairs of state, these FRUS volumes are indispensable. The following is an outline of the documents included in this Appendix. Each is listed by the number they appear as in the Foreign Relations of the United States, Volume IV, Vietnam August-December 1963: 194. National Security Action Memorandum No. 263 This recorded JFK's approval of withdrawing 1,000 U.S. military personnel by the end of 1963, as well as other recommendations from the Taylor/McNamara Memo (doc. 167) which included withdrawal of "the bulk of U.S. personnel by . . . the end of 1965." 167. Memorandum From the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Taylor) and the Secretary of Defense (McNamara) to the President NSAM 263 approves Section IB(1-3) of this Memorandum created as a result of the Taylor/McNamara trip to South Vietnam in late September-beginning of
[CTRL] [7] Understanding Special Operations - Appendix C,D, E
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: http://www.prouty.org/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.prouty.org/"The Col. L. Fletcher Prouty Reference Site/A - Appendix C NSC 5412, "National Security Council Directive on Covert Operations" A segment of NSC 5412 follows below. Known as the Special Group 5412/2, this subcommittee of the National Security Council was the descendant of the Special Group 10/2 which, as described in "The Forty Committee" by L. Fletcher Prouty[1], produced a document, NSCID 10/2, that "came close to giving the CIA what it wanted" in terms of being able to conduct clandestine operations. NSC 5412, "National Security Council Directive on Covert Operations," effectively neutralized such oversight functions as were intended to be carried out under the authority of the Operations Coordinating Board (OCB) which was a part of NSC by law. OCB was intended to be a group of senior individuals, who would follow the decisions made by the National Security Council and make sure that the bureaucracy carried them out. The following is taken from pages 308-310 of The U.S. Government and the Vietnam War, Executive and Legislative Roles and Relationships, Part I, 1945-1961, prepared for the Committee on Foreign Relations, U.S. Senate, by the Congressional Research Service, Library of Congress, printed by the U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, 1984. Also important to note here is the wording that defined "covert operations." Although there had been some covert U.S. operations in Indochina during Truman's administration, which had been continued by Eisenhower, the approval of NSC 5412 on March 15, 1954, marked the official recognition and sanctioning of a much larger program of anti-Communist activities in Indochina and throughout the world.[81] NSC 5412, "National Security Council Directive on Covert Operations," which continued to be the U.S. Government's basic directive on covert activities until the Nixon administration's NSC 40 in 1970, began with this statement of purpose: The National Security Council, taking cognizance of the vicious covert activities of the USSR and Communist China and the governments, parties and groups dominated by them . . . to discredit and defeat the aims and activities of the United States and other powers of the free world, determined, as set forth in NSC directives 10/2 and 10/5 [of the Truman administration], that, in the interests of world peace and U.S. national security, the overt foreign activities of the U.S. Government should be supplemented by covert operations. . . . The NSC has determined that such covert operations shall to the greatest extent practicable, in the light of U.S. and Soviet capabilities and taking into account the risk of war, be designed to a. Create and exploit troublesome problems for International Communism, impair relations between the USSR and Communist China and between them and their satellites, complicate control within the USSR, Communist China and their satellites, and retard the growth of the military and economic potential of the Soviet bloc. b. Discredit the prestige and ideology of International Communism, and reduce the strength of its parties and other elements. c. Counter any threat of a party or individuals directly or indirectly responsive to Communist control to achieve dominant Power in a free world country. d. Reduce International Communist control over any areas of the world. e. Strengthen the orientation toward the United States of the peoples and nations of the free world, accentuate, wherever possible, the identity of interest between such peoples and nations and the United States as well as favoring, where appropriate, those groups genuinely advocating or believing in the advancement of such mutual interests, and increase the capacity and will of such peoples and nations to resist International Communism. f. In accordance with established policies and to the extent practicable in areas dominated or threatened by International Communism, develop underground resistance and facilitate covert and guerrilla operations and ensure availability of those forces in the event of war, including wherever practicable provisions of a base upon which the military may expand these forces in time of war within active theaters of operations as well as provision for stay-behind assets and escape and evasion facilities. NSC 5412 defined "covert operations" as " . . . all activities conducted pursuant to this directive which are so planned and executed that any U.S. Government responsibility for them is not evident to unauthorized persons and that if uncovered the U.S. Government can plausibly disclaim any responsibility for them. Specifically, such operations shall include any covert activities related to: propaganda, political action; economic warfare; preventive direct action, including sabotage, anti-sabotage, demolition; escape and evasion and evacuation measures; subversion
[CTRL] [8] Understanding Special Operations - Appendix F
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- from: http://www.prouty.org/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.prouty.org/"The Col. L. Fletcher Prouty Reference Site/A - More at site, Including index. Om K - Appendix F Prouty Letter Regarding JFK Assassination Conspiracy and Cover Story 4201 Peachtree Place, Alexandria, VA 22304 Aug 13, 1994 Dave Ratcliffe 567 35th Avenue Santa Cruz, CA 95062 Dear Dave, One of the pleasantest surprises I have ever received was in the mail yesterday. It was the VCR you made while you visited.[1] Although some might say it was a bit "one-sided" from the point of view of who did the preaching, and that it was more than a bit "long winded", I have steeled myself to put up with the burden of criticism in favor of my gratitude toward you for the work, the effort, the concept and the product. Thank you! I am sending essentially the same letter to Tom and to Patrick. I understand and appreciate their roles in this too, and I want to encourage all of you now to do what you can to promote this work. Lest I appear to be a bit too aggressive on my own behalf, I wish to state that I believe that all of us have produced something for these times that is rare, unusual, and significant. Now it is up to us all to prepare it for a market in the way that it deserves and that the market will accept...perhaps...demand. I have been getting many requests these days for similar work. Only day before yesterday I made a 2 hour TV taped interview for some fellows who are connected with Compuserve and who want to use it for that and for me to get into that network forum. At about the same time an author sent me several pages of questions and a blank cassette and asked me to answer the questions and tape it. As a result, I wrote up much of the following and then read it. I thought that I might use it to send to you, Tom and Patrick simply as an up-date. Before I go into that, I have been -- in response to Patrick's request a while ago -- going through my files and putting all my articles in folders and copying them. When I get this done I plan to make a master list of it all and see what the next step is with you fellows with regard to the Archives in Santa Barbara. I am interested in that. Along with the articles I have found that I have most of the original publications. They can serve as a sort of Master List from which copies can be made. On top of that, it might be well to bring some of them up to date, and I could do that on cassette or video tape. We have many options ahead of us. Now to the questions I received and the letter. Forgive the fact that it is addressed to other work. Despite that, I believe it may serve a purpose for all of us. (The writer involved is with a small, local publication. I do not expect it to be seen by many people.) I told him that I had his questions concerning the assassination of President Kennedy, and related matters. I shall provide taped material; but it is essential that I clarify things that are rather confusing in this work about the definition of a "Conspiracy" and the definition of the "Cover Story." This next section is interesting, because I was doing it for a stranger and then Patrick's package came in with that interesting work by my old friend Peter Dale Scott, "CASE CLOSED? or OSWALD FRAMED?" The review of Gerald Posner's book. It has burned me up since I first saw that book to see the way Posner crafted lies into his work. A good example is what he said about me. These paid hacks/lawyers who have been writing those books have been doing some very heavy disinformation and slanderous work. They need to be exposed. First of all, let's examine these ideas. Hundreds of unwitting authors have written books about this subject, many of them denying absolutely that there was/is a conspiracy. Unfortunately they do not appear to understand the word. What they are really doing, intentionally or not, is to support the "JFK Assassination Cover Story." This has become a major commercial enterprise, and a really dirty game. They are out to draw blood from anyone who does not agree with the party line of the Coup d'etat perpetrators. Whether they are witting or unwitting of the objective of their work, they are attempting to perpetuate the cover story. They will do anything, say anything in their witless attempt to protect the idea that only one person, and no more, was involved in the crime. A conspiracy is a plan, usually an evil or unlawful plan. It involves two or more people. The denial of the fact of a conspiracy, i.e. the cover story, is like a bubble. Once any part of it is proved to be false, it bursts and the cover story is exposed. Like a balloon, it is not necessary to burst a cover story with ten or fifteen pins. It collapses with only one bit of circumstantial evidence that is undeniable. As I have done in my writing for about 30 years, I go to the most important single point of the cover story and destroy it. I go
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How many times in the OT is the term "right hand" used in reference to strength, power or even Jesus Himself? Revelation must be interpreted by using the rest of the Bible. Without knowing the whole Bible, none of it will ever make sense. As far as the sores are concerned, look at Rev 14:910. From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:29 -0600 -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Madeline Colleen:Secretary of Hate
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I was also under the impression that "Nazis need not apply", which was the reason I joined this list. I had many arguments on SOL with Colleen and her hate-group about the Holocaust. They claimed there was even a pool at Aushwitz! I'm sorry, but people who are that brainwashed by hate and denial don't deserve my respect. From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Madeline Colleen:Secretary of Hate Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:42:26 EST -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Pennie, please your unwarranted attacks are uncalled for. Continued personal attacks will result in a nopost attribute for your current email account. There really is no excuse for these personal attacks. Lets us create understanding, not dissension. Om K In a message dated 1/20/00 8:20:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/20/00 12:17:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Colleen: Everything that you babble is sheer lunacy. Take your Jew-hating ass back to the Sons Of Losers list you came from. Love Pennie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Jamie, The clue is given... "RIGHT" hand. That is where you must dig into your history and you will find that the Hebrews and others at the time believed that spiritual POWER was always given IN to the 'right' hand to do the work of God. First of all, it's NOT merely a state of mind, as you put it... and really, I don't care if you disagree... but at least admit that your brain is *in your forehead* and within the casing of your cranium. IF it's not... then that is where the problem of understanding this comes from. :-) AGAIN... I don't know how or why you are dragging something out of chronological order, such as the vials to the time of the mark of the beast. The vials (wrath of God) as you've quoted from Revelation 16 do not occur until AFTER the (6) SIXTH SEAL, the (6) SIXTH PLAGUE (vial) and the (6) SIXTH TRUMPET . The reason God pours out his wrath is because of his anger with the spurious messiah who comes claiming to be Christ, but who is none other than Lucifer, Satan that old Dragon, the devil (See Revelation 12:7-9) and who has perverted the true image of Christ (the image of Jealousy which Ezekiel saw and is that which provoked God to wrath in Ezekiel 8 and has all to do with the Babylonian Mysticism that was carried by the apostate Jews to the Temple in Jerusalem, and that Judeo mysticism of belief is called the "Kabbalah"). THUS, you have the image of the beast. It is called the "BEAST" because it is a profane perversion of the true image of Christ. So, if you want to believe that the mark is a physical mark... then, please, do so. I am not here to convince you of what it is or isn't. You asked for documentation. I provided it. And provided you a place off this list for further study at http://www.lambsheart.com/fourwinds/mark.html You are asking me for documentation, yet, you don't seem to be providing anything sound or documentable. You just keep repeating Revelation 16:2, which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the mark of the beast... except that God's wrath will be poured out upon those who accept that mark of that religious perversion, known as Mystery Babylon (and her harlot daughters), which is false religions and false doctrines. You can research that study by going to http://www.lambsheart.com/fourwinds/whore.html It is NOT a physical mark. If it were, Cain, too, and his progeny would have been marked the same, for it means almost the exact same word in Aramaic (Greek). NONE of them are physically marked, but are definitely recognizable. There is a study available on this subject matter at the site also. You are going to believe what you want to believe. I am not here to convince you to believe as I do. I merely provided the documentation you asked for. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Duke Report Online: David Duke launches new European American civil rights group. (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:46:47 -0600 From: David Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Duke Report Online: David Duke launches new European American civil rights group. | If you do not wish to receive further mail from the Duke Report, | | please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | with UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body (not the subject). Or go to | | http://lists.davidduke.com:81/guest/RemoteListSummary/DukeCampaign | [The group's new website is under construction at www.duke.org/nofear] News Advisory: David Duke launches new European American civil rights group. New Orleans, Louisiana, January 20, 2000 ... National White civil rights activist and Louisiana Republican official, David Duke, will announce the formation of a civil rights group for European Americans, at the National Press Club, January 21, 9:30 AM in the Zenger Room. The new group, titled the National Organization for European American Rights, will focus on European American concerns from affirmative action to the massive non-European immigration which will result in a European American minority by the middle of this century. "Just as African Americans have the NAACP and Mexican Americans have La Raza, European Americans now have the National Organization for European American Rights, to actively defend their rights and heritage in the United States," said Duke. Top on the groups list is the repealing of state hate crime laws, which Duke says unconstitutionally target European Americans for selective prosecution and attempts to set up minorities as a special class of citizens, with special rights. Duke says the new organization will have members in all 50 states and already is forming chapters in most major cities, including Washington, DC. The new organization will be holding it's first conference in Philadelphia, PA, Saturday, January 22. Press Conference Information National Press Club, Washington DC Zenger room January 21, 9:30am For more information, please contact Don Williams at 504-626-7714 or visit www.davidduke.com. David Duke is a Former State Representative for Louisiana and is currently the elected chairman for the St. Tammany Parish Republican Party in Louisiana. He is a nationally known civil rights leader working against discrimination and for the rights and heritage of White Americans. David Duke is the author of the nationally acclaimed autobiography entitled "My Awakening: A path to racial understanding." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I found this after very little Research, and found it interesting as to how prevailant this technology may become. Hmmm I wonder if there is a single person out there that could actually believe that this will only be used for good. If so they need to join Reality. Memmerrise Current trends in transponder systems Major successes using RFID technologies in use today are: Electronic Article Surveillance (EAS) Market penetration of this technology is already reportedly reaching 6 000 million units per year and growing strongly. However there is still lack of standardisation between the different manufacturers, which causes confusion with the end users. Shipping Container and railcar tracking One of the early success of transponder technology and fast becoming a global system. Based around electric coupled transponders that are attached to each container and railcar, being read at speed by readers alongside the rail track. One manufacturer claims to have already labelled 4 million rolling stock items using this technology. Animal tracking Originally a series of magnetic implantable transponders were developed for tracking slaughter animals. Unfortunately success in this application has been poor mainly due to lack of acceptance by the relevant authorities. The labelling of pets so that they can be identified and returned to the owners has become a major consumer of RFID systems. Some municipalites require all pet dogs withing their jurisdiction to be identifyable via an embedded transponder that is injected under the skin. Small RFID transponders, 8mm long and less than 1 mm in diameter, have been developed that are suitable for injecting under the skin of the pet. The data within the transponder can be read using a scanner a couple of inches from the animal. Implantable and external transponders are being successfully applied in the research of the habits of wildlife, both fish and animals. Prior to 1997, cows had usually been labelled by ear tags that combined a visual reference with an RFID transponder. A new series of RFID tags have recently been developed called Ruminary tags, tags that are encased in a tough plastic case which can be fed to the cow with its food, and will reside in the stomach of the cow for the life of the animal. These tags are resistant to attack by the acids in the stomach and operate using magnetic coupling techniques with readers outside the animal. Vehicle access and control Electric field coupled transponders have been used for many years to allow vehicle access to garages in buildings. Generally these transponders are relatively expensive but as they are reuseable, and are attached to expensive cars, their use is cost effective. Personnel access Personnel access has long been facilitated by RF transponder technologies. This solution has not been widely accepted, mainly due to the limited reading range, relatively expensive technology, and the success of the magswipe cards as a viable alternative. Production control Most probably led by the automobile industry, many factories use transponders to identify and trace their goods during the manufacture process. These transponders are generally sophisticated, including read write features, and are reused once the manufacturing process has been completed. Ski passes For many years magnetic based transponder technology has been used in ski passes, allowing its identity to be read through ski clothing at access points to ski lifts, etc Sports Timing Particularly for long distance racing and for marathon racing, the use of transpoinders for timing is becoming more common place. Currently the preferred technology is to use a small 125kHz transponder attached to the shoe of the athlete which is read by the athlete tramping on one or more sensor mats across the timing line. The technology records the presence of the athlete but is not suitable for accurate timing as it can only sense the time when the athletes foot touches one of a number of mats. 900 Mhz technology has been recently used in South Africa and this might be very promising in such applications, as besides having 4 to 6 meter reading ranges allowing overhead antennas to sense the athletes, timing accuracies better than 2 tenths of a second seem possible Document authentication A system of providing a radio frequency "signature" for documents is becoming commercially available. The system comprises printed radio frequency antennas attached to precut crystal resonators. The interrogating frequency of the reader sweeps through the reading frequency band, causing the crystal resonators to resonate when excited at the correct frequency. By choosing frequencies to indicate specific data, documents can be given a radio signature that can be used for verification of documents. Novel applications include the enabling or preventing of photocopying of certain documents depending on their signature. The matrix
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How can you track the buying and selling of every person on the planet, if the mark is not a physical thing Revelation needs to be interpreted by using the book of Daniel...they go togetheryes, I know there are a few others also and the 'right hand ' term is used regarding Jesus, because he is seated at the right hand of God now, it also says that all who takes the markwill fall down and worship the beastso, you are taking something, receiving something...so that you may be able to buy, sell or trade.that is pysicalas i said, the Greek word meaning to 'incise, to put into' a physical putting intolook it up in the Greek Concordance if you don't believe me.. anyhoo, regardless we should strongly object to anyone who would have us put a computer chip anywhere in our bodies...it will subject us to full governmental slavery.and you know it ks pennie hammons wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How many times in the OT is the term "right hand" used in reference to strength, power or even Jesus Himself? Revelation must be interpreted by using the rest of the Bible. Without knowing the whole Bible, none of it will ever make sense. As far as the sores are concerned, look at Rev 14:910. From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:29 -0600 -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major
Re: [CTRL] US Ethnocide Against White Culture
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, C Davis wrote: I find this thread replusive... In what way? FWP --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHO said anyone is tracking anything? My Bible says nothing about tracking anything or anyone... it talks about a MARK... to buy or sell. ANYTHING ELSE is imposed by false doctrine. The Bible says nothing about a chip, a tattoo, a card or electromagnetic anything... those are traditions of men who deal in speculation, and is a bunch of hooey. As a matter of fact, you are way off track, and as a famous man once said... you need to read it again... and as Jesus said, "IT IS WRITTEN". eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "KDS" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How can you track the buying and selling of every person on the planet, if the mark is not a physical thing Revelation needs to be interpreted by using the book of Daniel...they go togetheryes, I know there are a few others also and the 'right hand ' term is used regarding Jesus, because he is seated at the right hand of God now, it also says that all who takes the markwill fall down and worship the beastso, you are taking something, receiving something...so that you may be able to buy, sell or trade.that is pysicalas i said, the Greek word meaning to 'incise, to put into' a physical putting intolook it up in the Greek Concordance if you don't believe me.. anyhoo, regardless we should strongly object to anyone who would have us put a computer chip anywhere in our bodies...it will subject us to full governmental slavery.and you know it ks pennie hammons wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How many times in the OT is the term "right hand" used in reference to strength, power or even Jesus Himself? Revelation must be interpreted by using the rest of the Bible. Without knowing the whole Bible, none of it will ever make sense. As far as the sores are concerned, look at Rev 14:910. From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:29 -0600 -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- So may I infer from this that anything that can be used for any purpose other than good should be caused to cease to exist if possible? If so, then: If guns can be used for other than good, let's cause them to cease to exist. If abortion can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If government can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If science can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If religion can be used for other than good, let's cause it to cease to exist. If splitting the atom can be used for other than good, let's cause atoms to cease to exist. The sentiment itself may have merit, but the logic fails - every time. Whose reality are we talking about here? On Thursday, January 20, 2000 12:40 PM, memmerrise [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I found this after very little Research, and found it interesting as to how prevailant this technology may become. Hmmm I wonder if there is a single person out there that could actually believe that this will only be used for good. If so they need to join Reality. Memmerrise Current trends in transponder systems Major successes using RFID technologies in use today are: Electronic Article Surveillance (EAS) Market penetration of this technology is already reportedly reaching 6 000 million units per year and growing strongly. However there is still lack of standardisation between the different manufacturers, which causes confusion with the end users. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Don't be so sure that we won't be here. The rapture theory is just that: A theory. I encourage you to reread for yourself what is said in the Bible about this and see that there is no pre-trib rapture mentioned anywhere. Sorry, but if it's the word of God, it's not a theory. It's truth. As for pre-trib or post trib, I've discussed this issue 100 times over and have yet to find anything that would make me believe it to be post trib. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Jamie A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- I used the word tracking, to keep track, but the Bible is clear that no man may buy, sell, or trade, unless he receiveth the mark...therefore, common sense would dictate that , that in itself will keep a record of anyone's transactions.. as far as the spirit of delusion sent , so that they might believe the lie..hello, that is the lie that the anti-christ is the messiah...and many will believe just that..the lie , has nothing to do w/ the rapture, and if you really believe that a born-again Christian who happens to believe in a rapture will not be saved then you have indeed missed the whole message of Christ. and let's try speaking the 'truth in love' you seem very judgemental of other christians beliefs..remember, the messure you give, will be the measure you get judge not, lest you be judged more harshly.and all that... no, the Bible doesn't specify a chip, ect..but, we know that computer chips are indeed extremely small, they can hold thousands of pieces of information, and can be inserted under the skin...it is not a great leap to discern that, that could be used, and probably will be... curious, if any of you saw the Oprah Winfrey show in the early 90's, it was a show on the year 2000, the guest said by then we should be in a cashless society, where buying and selling would be kept track of by a chip in the hand..?? and it's been mentioned countless times since then, as well you know, if you pay attention to that sort of thing and Eagle, don't assume that you are the only one on the list who studies the Bible...and just because I disagree w/ a LOT of what you think, doesn't mean I'm unintelligent or believe in a bunch of hooey...I can back myself up w/ countless scripture also..and that being said..I bid you, good day! ks Eagle 1 wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHO said anyone is tracking anything? My Bible says nothing about tracking anything or anyone... it talks about a MARK... to buy or sell. ANYTHING ELSE is imposed by false doctrine. The Bible says nothing about a chip, a tattoo, a card or electromagnetic anything... those are traditions of men who deal in speculation, and is a bunch of hooey. As a matter of fact, you are way off track, and as a famous man once said... you need to read it again... and as Jesus said, "IT IS WRITTEN". eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "KDS" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How can you track the buying and selling of every person on the planet, if the mark is not a physical thing Revelation needs to be interpreted by using the book of Daniel...they go togetheryes, I know there are a few others also and the 'right hand ' term is used regarding Jesus, because he is seated at the right hand of God now, it also says that all who takes the markwill fall down and worship the beastso, you are taking something, receiving something...so that you may be able to buy, sell or trade.that is pysicalas i said, the Greek word meaning to 'incise, to put into' a physical putting intolook it up in the Greek Concordance if you don't believe me.. anyhoo, regardless we should strongly object to anyone who would have us put a computer chip anywhere in our bodies...it will subject us to full governmental slavery.and you know it ks pennie hammons wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- How many times in the OT is the term "right hand" used in reference to strength, power or even Jesus Himself? Revelation must be interpreted by using the rest of the Bible. Without knowing the whole Bible, none of it will ever make sense. As far as the sores are concerned, look at Rev 14:910. From: "Stopforth, Jamie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I.D. Biochip in your Right Hand! Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:29 -0600 -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- WHAT is *in* your forehead??? WHAT is *in* your hand? The Bible makes it clear it's going to be in the hand OR forehead. How could it possibly something not physical if it was in the hand? If it was something not physical or mental as what you believe why then even put the Hand as an option? And why the grievous sore for those that have the mark? [Rev 16:2] That brings me to believe it is a device and not simply a state of mind.
