Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!

2008-05-27 Thread Vic K2VCO

Bob Evans wrote:

  I
never thought I'd be so happy with a 150 Hz filter bandwidth.  Honestly, the
100 Hz and 50 Hz bandwidths were useless though as the signal level dropped
significantly.  It seemed much better a few firmware versions ago, but 150
Hz worked fine for us...I was just getting greedy by trying to use the 100
and 50 Hz BW.


I have just found out that there is a bug that causes a gain reduction 
just for these two bandwidths if they are set for FIR filters and not IIR.


You can fix it now by switching IIR ON, and when Elecraft fixes the bug 
you can choose either IIR or FIR for these filters as you prefer.


To switch between IIR and FIR, tap '7' on the keypad when you're in any 
filter setup menu entry (e.g., CONFIG:FLx BW). You want it to say IIR ON.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!

2008-05-27 Thread Ken K3IU

Hi Bob:

Thanks for the report!

Re: your comment regarding the 50 and 100HZ bandwidth. I am surprised to 
hear what you report. I have the 200Hz filter in FL5. I just put the 
Elecraft XG-1 on ANT1 and tuned to the 7040 freq. With the bandwidth set 
to NORM (400 Hz) I show a S9 signal and an audio level (dbV Alternate 
display) of 31.7. When I narrow the bandwidth to 50 Hz, signal strength 
stays the same at S9 and the audio level stays the same. I do have 8 dB 
of gain set into FL5 where the 200 Hz filter lives. Without that 
additional gain, the S meter drops to S7 and the audio level drops to 
30.5 dB when that filter switches in. I found it very usable at the 50 - 
100 Hz bandwidths.


73,
Ken K3IU
K3 #202
~
Bob Evans wrote:

I finally had a chance to put both of my K3s on really good antennas (2 el
40@ 140', 5 el 20 @ 130', 5 el 15 @ 120, 5 el 10 @ 110', 3 el 80 (delta
loops) @ 110', 140' shunt fed on 160M, 600' beverage pointed NE).  Our main
goal was to find out how the K3s interacted and whether I need to put in the
overload mod on the KXV3.  We ended up with 2002 contacts and 733
multipliers (2.8M points) even though I got sick in mid-contest and had to
take 12 hours off.  There were only two of us operating, so that was a
severe blow to our score.  Anyway, the K3s both had I.C.E. multiband band
pass filters and we were able to operate without bothering the other op.  In
most cases, we never knew the other op was on except when we were at a
second harmonic.  I actually only heard it when we were on ~7020 and ~14040.
These 2 antennas were 10 feet apart and both rigs were at 1 KW.  Even then,
we were able to operate within 10 KHz of the second harmonic.  I was amazed.
 
Additionally, from our Texas location, we were routinely able to hear the

VERY weak DX station right next to (or under) a loud East Coast station.  I
never thought I'd be so happy with a 150 Hz filter bandwidth.  Honestly, the
100 Hz and 50 Hz bandwidths were useless though as the signal level dropped
significantly.  It seemed much better a few firmware versions ago, but 150
Hz worked fine for us...I was just getting greedy by trying to use the 100
and 50 Hz BW.
 
The other thing I proved to myself was that I need to put the KXV3 overload

mod on my S/N 234.  No problem on S/N 752, but #234 indicated a HI PA TEMP
when we transmitted on the 160 tower and used our beverage antenna which was
only 100' away from the tower.  The PA TEMP was not high, but apparently the
overload made it appear that way.  I believe I remember that the rig dropped
itself down to 5 watts when this occurred.  I don't want to analyze the
failure, I'm just going to install the mod kit (which I've already gotten).
This test was simply to make sure I needed to do the mod before I opened
things up.  ;-)
 
We had 2 amplifiers fail, some computer glitches and the KRC2 wouldn't drive

the 6 pack switching arrangement (could be bad wiring on my part or low
voltage), but the K3s seemed bulletproof and felt VERY solid throughout the
contest.  I just keep getting happier and happier with my K3s every time I
put them to a new test.   Now for Field Day  How many insects can a K3
handle before the fan speed goes into overdrive?  ;-)
 
Bob K5WA

K3 #234 and #752
K2 #4687 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - 50 Hz Shift

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Tellefsen
Yes, my experience also.  50 Hz steps are too much
at the narrower DSP filter settings.  10 Hz would be
good and BW less than 200 Hz.

73, Bob N6WG

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:30 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - 50 Hz Shift


 Working the WPX contest this weekend, I tried using the Shift when
the DSP
 filter was as narrow as 50-100 Hz for some very weak contacts due to
QRM. K3
 performed beautifully on CW I might add, but I think the shift
adjustment in
 50 Hz increments is too large. I would often lose the station I was
trying
 to work.

 I would have perferred something smaller even as low as 10 Hz. Is it
just
 me, or is this something that can be menu adjusted in the future. I
think
 this would only be needed in CW/Digital modes.

 Roland  NA5Q
 K3 - Serial No. 845
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RE: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Evans
Ken,

I just got a note about this from Vic, K2VCO, which I hope he posts to the
reflector.  This is, apparently, a known bug in the firmware which will be
fixed in the future.  For the time being, the workaround is to set IIR to ON
in the FL:x menu.  After Vic mentioned that, I sort of remember it crossing
the reflector, but had dropped to the bottom of my priority bucket.  ;-)

Thanks for the note and I'll do the workaround until the firmware fix
arrives.  I really don't use anything less than 150 Hz very often, but it
will be nice to have it available when I'm playing around.

73,
Bob K5WA 

-Original Message-
From: Ken K3IU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:51 AM
To: Bob Evans
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!

Hi Bob:

Thanks for the report!

Re: your comment regarding the 50 and 100HZ bandwidth. I am surprised to
hear what you report. I have the 200Hz filter in FL5. I just put the
Elecraft XG-1 on ANT1 and tuned to the 7040 freq. With the bandwidth set to
NORM (400 Hz) I show a S9 signal and an audio level (dbV Alternate
display) of 31.7. When I narrow the bandwidth to 50 Hz, signal strength
stays the same at S9 and the audio level stays the same. I do have 8 dB of
gain set into FL5 where the 200 Hz filter lives. Without that additional
gain, the S meter drops to S7 and the audio level drops to
30.5 dB when that filter switches in. I found it very usable at the 50 - 100
Hz bandwidths.

73,
Ken K3IU
K3 #202
~
Bob Evans wrote:
 I finally had a chance to put both of my K3s on really good antennas 
 (2 el 40@ 140', 5 el 20 @ 130', 5 el 15 @ 120, 5 el 10 @ 110', 3 el 80 
 (delta
 loops) @ 110', 140' shunt fed on 160M, 600' beverage pointed NE).  Our 
 main goal was to find out how the K3s interacted and whether I need to 
 put in the overload mod on the KXV3.  We ended up with 2002 contacts 
 and 733 multipliers (2.8M points) even though I got sick in 
 mid-contest and had to take 12 hours off.  There were only two of us 
 operating, so that was a severe blow to our score.  Anyway, the K3s 
 both had I.C.E. multiband band pass filters and we were able to 
 operate without bothering the other op.  In most cases, we never knew 
 the other op was on except when we were at a second harmonic.  I actually
only heard it when we were on ~7020 and ~14040.
 These 2 antennas were 10 feet apart and both rigs were at 1 KW.  Even 
 then, we were able to operate within 10 KHz of the second harmonic.  I was
amazed.
  
 Additionally, from our Texas location, we were routinely able to hear 
 the VERY weak DX station right next to (or under) a loud East Coast 
 station.  I never thought I'd be so happy with a 150 Hz filter 
 bandwidth.  Honestly, the 100 Hz and 50 Hz bandwidths were useless 
 though as the signal level dropped significantly.  It seemed much 
 better a few firmware versions ago, but 150 Hz worked fine for us...I 
 was just getting greedy by trying to use the 100 and 50 Hz BW.
  
 The other thing I proved to myself was that I need to put the KXV3 
 overload mod on my S/N 234.  No problem on S/N 752, but #234 indicated 
 a HI PA TEMP when we transmitted on the 160 tower and used our 
 beverage antenna which was only 100' away from the tower.  The PA TEMP 
 was not high, but apparently the overload made it appear that way.  I 
 believe I remember that the rig dropped itself down to 5 watts when 
 this occurred.  I don't want to analyze the failure, I'm just going to
install the mod kit (which I've already gotten).
 This test was simply to make sure I needed to do the mod before I 
 opened things up.  ;-)
  
 We had 2 amplifiers fail, some computer glitches and the KRC2 wouldn't 
 drive the 6 pack switching arrangement (could be bad wiring on my part 
 or low voltage), but the K3s seemed bulletproof and felt VERY solid 
 throughout the contest.  I just keep getting happier and happier with my
K3s every time I
 put them to a new test.   Now for Field Day  How many insects can a K3
 handle before the fan speed goes into overdrive?  ;-)
  
 Bob K5WA
 K3 #234 and #752
 K2 #4687
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[Elecraft] test -- ignore

2008-05-27 Thread Dave G.
Please ignore

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC

2008-05-27 Thread Alexandr Kobranov

Stan,
it is very useful to program AGC slope settings to PF1 or PF2 key to 
have instant access from panel by one key to this setting.

(I have AGC slope assigned to PF1 and TECH mode ON to PF2)

73!
Lexa, ok1dst
K3/10 #727


Stan Rife napsal(a):
 Thanks, I appreciate the help. I guess I have not gone through the 
manual enough times to find this. Didn't know it was adjustable.


Stan
W5EWA


Lyle Johnson wrote:
   I've noticed on strong signals that the audio gets really loud and 
I have to reach for the volume control. Isn't the AGC supposed to 
keep that from happening? Has anyone else noticed this?


The AGC SLP parameter in the CONFIG menu allows you to adjust the AGC 
out vs input ratio.


73,

Lyle KK7P




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Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Tellefsen
Hi Vic
You didn't say, but I assume this is under the
most recent firmware download?
73, Bob N6WG

- Original Message - 
From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!


 Bob Evans wrote:
I
  never thought I'd be so happy with a 150 Hz filter bandwidth.
Honestly, the
  100 Hz and 50 Hz bandwidths were useless though as the signal
level dropped
  significantly.  It seemed much better a few firmware versions ago,
but 150
  Hz worked fine for us...I was just getting greedy by trying to
use the 100
  and 50 Hz BW.

 I have just found out that there is a bug that causes a gain
reduction
 just for these two bandwidths if they are set for FIR filters and
not IIR.

 You can fix it now by switching IIR ON, and when Elecraft fixes the
bug
 you can choose either IIR or FIR for these filters as you prefer.

 To switch between IIR and FIR, tap '7' on the keypad when you're in
any
 filter setup menu entry (e.g., CONFIG:FLx BW). You want it to say
IIR ON.
 -- 
 73,
 Vic, K2VCO
 Fresno CA
 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!

2008-05-27 Thread Vic Rosenthal

Bob Evans wrote:

  I
never thought I'd be so happy with a 150 Hz filter bandwidth.  Honestly, the
100 Hz and 50 Hz bandwidths were useless though as the signal level dropped
significantly.  It seemed much better a few firmware versions ago, but 150
Hz worked fine for us...I was just getting greedy by trying to use the 100
and 50 Hz BW.


I have just found out that there is a bug that causes a gain reduction
just for these two bandwidths if they are set for FIR filters and not IIR.

You can fix it now by switching IIR ON, and when Elecraft fixes the bug
you can choose either IIR or FIR for these filters as you prefer.

To switch between IIR and FIR, tap '7' on the keypad when you're in any
filter setup menu entry (e.g., CONFIG:FLx BW). You want it to say IIR ON.
--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco

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Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!

2008-05-27 Thread Vic K2VCO

Yes, it's even in the present beta version -- until Lyle fixes it!

Bob Tellefsen wrote:

Hi Vic
You didn't say, but I assume this is under the
most recent firmware download?
73, Bob N6WG

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From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!



Bob Evans wrote:

  I
never thought I'd be so happy with a 150 Hz filter bandwidth.

Honestly, the

100 Hz and 50 Hz bandwidths were useless though as the signal

level dropped

significantly.  It seemed much better a few firmware versions ago,

but 150

Hz worked fine for us...I was just getting greedy by trying to

use the 100

and 50 Hz BW.

I have just found out that there is a bug that causes a gain

reduction

just for these two bandwidths if they are set for FIR filters and

not IIR.

You can fix it now by switching IIR ON, and when Elecraft fixes the

bug

you can choose either IIR or FIR for these filters as you prefer.

To switch between IIR and FIR, tap '7' on the keypad when you're in

any

filter setup menu entry (e.g., CONFIG:FLx BW). You want it to say

IIR ON.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 lauded by contesters

2008-05-27 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
I've only had my K-3 for less than two weeks and I am no contester by any
means.  In fact, I am a rather little pistol.  But I must say that I find
the K-3 absolutely amazing.  Compared to my Orion II it is much quieter. I
keep discovering new and unique features every day.  I also can't imagine
anyone selling a K-3 except for financial reasons.  I suppose some folks
simply get tired of staring at the same radio and try something new.  If
they do, I think they may regret it.  At this point, my main wish is for a
nice pan adapter which I do find useful on my ICOM 756 Pro and on the Orion
II, although, the pan adapter on that radio could stand some improvement.

Bruce-W8FU

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:43 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 lauded by contesters

http://lists.contesting.com/pipermail/3830/2008-May/155623.html

This is a super-long posting about the wpx contest by WC1M.  You can
read it all (impressive) or just scroll (and scroll and scroll) down
to the bottom and read the last full paragraph.  Pretty cool!

To those selling their K3s for other than financial reasons...check
your compass.

de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Index for Owner's Manual?

2008-05-27 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
On page 50 of the manual you will notice that some of the entries have a
bold T after them.  That indicates those entries must be accessed with Tech
MD on.

Bruce-W8FU

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Index for Owner's Manual?

Fred Jensen wrote:
I used WPX this last weekend to flight test my new K3/100.  It's an 
amazing radio!  I made notes on several things I couldn't figure out 
and have been going through the manual today to resolve them.  An index 
would make the task a lot easier.  I did finally figure out 
accidentally that I have to have CONFIG:TECH MD ON in order to get FP 
and PA Temp into the alternate DISPLAY menu, but haven't yet found that 
in the book.

If you download the latest version, you can search the PDF.

Even better, in the downloadable schematics you can search for 
individual part numbers and connection labels, and use that to trace 
connections across several pages.



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[Elecraft] K3 Cover!

2008-05-27 Thread Patrick Taylor
I just received my K3 cover from Rose, N7HKW ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and
WOW what a product. The embroidery is perfect, the stitching is secure with
all raw edges overcast, and the fit is excellent. I would certainly
recommend Rose's covers to all Elecraft owners.  I have no financial
connection to Rose, just a very happy customer. Now I have to consider one
for my K2!

Pat W3HVG

K3 834
K2 503

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Noise

2008-05-27 Thread KD2JC

I may have had a similar noise in my K-2 and had finally traced it to running
Ham Radio Deluxe while using an external speaker.  If I shut down HRD the
noise would go away, BUT with HRD on and using the internal speaker on the
K-2 it was not there.  I traced it to computer noise getting into the
speaker because of poor shielding of the external speaker leads.  Hope this
helps: 73 


DDWEBB wrote:
 
 I am hearing  low level random noise from my K2, 
  I hear it from speaker or head phones as well and even when volume  and
 RF 
 controls are all CCW and the antenna is disconnected. I even hear it when 
 I am 
 in transmit mode. Any suggestions as to where to start looking. I hate the  
 thought of removing the LM380n from the control board and finding I have a
 bad  
 capacitor some where else.
 Don...KA7L
  
  
  S/N 1175. REV B
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] server access denied

2008-05-27 Thread Larry K1UO

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[Elecraft] K3: Smart PTT for transverter??

2008-05-27 Thread paul.bradbeer2
I use my K3 predominantly for 6m and to drive my 2m transverter (not an XV144). 
 I'm having great fun with it but would like to do a 'smart PTT' for the 2m 
transverter - i.e. only when the Band Up switch has selected the Transverter.  

At the moment, with the transverter in standby, and me operating on 6m, 
everytime I transmit it operates the PTT to the transverter too.  Has anyone 
found a way of using the commands on the ACC connector, so that PTT to the 
transverter will only be activated when the transverter band has been selected 
by the K3??

Grateful for any suggestions..

Paul M0CVX

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[Elecraft] K3: Swap my 400Hz filter for a 2.8kHz?? (UK)

2008-05-27 Thread paul.bradbeer2
Yep, probably a long shot, but does anyone in the UK fancy swapping their 
2.8kHz 8-pole for my 400Hz 8-pole?  Please reply off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!

2008-05-27 Thread n4lq
Confused.What is FIR vs. IIR? Can't find it in the manual. When you say 
just these two bandwidths...I thought the FLxBW settings were for the 
crystal filters, not the DSP so how do you change this setting for 50hz when 
it's not even a filter in the menu? Since I have the 200hz filter in slot 4, 
do I change it to IIR on?

Steve Ellington
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Bob Evans wrote:

  I
never thought I'd be so happy with a 150 Hz filter bandwidth.  Honestly, 
the
100 Hz and 50 Hz bandwidths were useless though as the signal level 
dropped
significantly.  It seemed much better a few firmware versions ago, but 
150
Hz worked fine for us...I was just getting greedy by trying to use the 
100

and 50 Hz BW.


I have just found out that there is a bug that causes a gain reduction
just for these two bandwidths if they are set for FIR filters and not IIR.

You can fix it now by switching IIR ON, and when Elecraft fixes the bug
you can choose either IIR or FIR for these filters as you prefer.

To switch between IIR and FIR, tap '7' on the keypad when you're in any
filter setup menu entry (e.g., CONFIG:FLx BW). You want it to say IIR ON.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX M/S - WOW!

2008-05-27 Thread Vic K2VCO

n4lq wrote:
Confused.What is FIR vs. IIR? Can't find it in the manual. 


It's not in the manual. They are two different types of DSP filters. I 
think FIR has slightly less ringing, but IIR has...something else. 
Anyway, some people may prefer the sound of one to the other.


When you 
say just these two bandwidths...I thought the FLxBW settings were for 
the crystal filters, not the DSP so how do you change this setting for 
50hz when it's not even a filter in the menu?


This wasn't supposed to be a permanent user interface, I think. Anyway 
this parameter only relates to the DSP, not to the crystal filter.


Since I have the 200hz 
filter in slot 4, do I change it to IIR on?


It doesn't matter which filter you have selected. Just go to the filter 
bandwidth parameter and hit 7 until you see IIR ON.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in CQ WPX CW

2008-05-27 Thread KM0O

Sometimes I don't want a flat response curve. The higher slope values tend to
compress signals together and makes it difficult to separate them in a
pileup on the basis of strength as experienced as audio. Sometimes it helps
if stronger signals sound louder.

I would like to see a way to store different AGC setups so I can recall them
at the tap of a button when the particular demands of contest conditions
change (maybe using the message buttons). Or is this already a K3
capability?



Lyle KK7P wrote:
 
 The AGC slow, fast or off as set from the factory did
 not handle MONSTER signals well...
 
 Try CONFIG:AGC SLP and set it higher than the default of 10.  12 seems 
 to work pretty well for realy strong signals, and 15 will virtually 
 flatten the response curve.
 
 The RIT was not as easy to use as on the K2. I was
 used to setting the RIT and just turning it on and off
 when needed with the K2. The RIT seems to reset to 0...
 
 It works as expected here (RIT is remembered if I tap RIT to toggle it 
 on and off), but it does reset to zero if I change bands.
 
 Glad you had fun in the contest and the K3 worked well for you, Julius.
 
 73,
 
 Lyle KK7P
 
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Re: [Elecraft] dead transistors at the K2

2008-05-27 Thread David Woolley (E.L)

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I am using here an K2, serialnumber about 3000 and more. Yesterday i

+ tried to tune. The effect was: no power output at each qrg. Than i
+ solder out the Transmittransistors 2SC1969 and checked with an ohmmeter
+ the routes Base - Collector, Base - Emitter and Emitter - Collector. In
+ one way Emitter - Collector i measured at each transistor an resistor
+ about 30 ohms.
+

Now i do the same with drivertransistor 2SC2166 and i got the same

+ effect. They all died! Now i checked the predrivertransistor. oh well,
+ he is living.

That sounds unlikely unless you applied much more than the maximum 
allowed supply voltage.


I'm not convinced that the transistors are actually dead.  If I 
understand you correctly, you get a high resistance between collector 
and emitter with one test polarity and about 30 ohms with the other 
polarity.  My guess is that the 30 ohms happens when the emitter is 
negative with respect to the collector and represents what the meter 
displays as a result of the emitter base junction breaking down because 
its maximum reverse bias has been exceeded.  The voltage at which 
emitter base junctions zener is quite small.


From what I've heard the most common cause of an indication of no power 
output is electromagnetic pulse damage to the power sense diodes.  This 
failure actually causes maximum output, but the indicated output is zero.

+

But i dont know, how i killed the transistors. the cause or reason ist unknown. 

+

Then i bought in the local elektronikshop for little money new

+ transistors with the logo from mitsubishi. Then i called via phone the
+ elecraft distributor in germany and he told me, that most of these
+ transistors are fakes.

I'm not clear about this.  Did it work with these.  If it did, that 
would indicate that the originals really were damaged, or at least some 
of them where.  If its still didn't work, that would indicate that the 
originals were probably OK.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Smart PTT for transverter??

2008-05-27 Thread Alexandr Kobranov

Hi Paul,

I was investigated little bit this (as not fully satified by KEY OUT 
functionality). Looking to schematics of KXV board there some levels 
like related to TX/RX... Seems to be possible to derive some PTT or 
+TX driver from such signals on this board and put some RCA port to 
the rear panel  (to the cover instaed of fan unit - talking about 
K3/10). But this is to be very carefuly tested and now only as idea 
(maybe some f/w change of KEY OUT will be faster than this 
investigation...).
But basic possibility (and without touching internal signals) is to 
use band/trns mapping on 15pin ACC port - simply make transverter PTT 
disabled/enabled based on band or trns data on this port.
Or you can use only pin #7 in XVTR ON, hope this is on in XVTR mode 
only, not tested!


Let us know your experience,

73!
Lexa, ok1dst
K3/10 #727


[EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):
I use my K3 predominantly for 6m and to drive my 2m transverter (not an XV144).  I'm having great fun with it but would like to do a 'smart PTT' for the 2m transverter - i.e. only when the Band Up switch has selected the Transverter.  


At the moment, with the transverter in standby, and me operating on 6m, 
everytime I transmit it operates the PTT to the transverter too.  Has anyone 
found a way of using the commands on the ACC connector, so that PTT to the 
transverter will only be activated when the transverter band has been selected 
by the K3??

Grateful for any suggestions..

Paul M0CVX

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[Elecraft] 6M issues.

2008-05-27 Thread w6jd
I've only recently become interested in 6M, up until now lacking
an antenna. So, today I attempted to do the TXG calibration on
50 MHz.  Using two different dummy loads I was unable to
accomplish the calibration at either power level, the result was
an indicated output power far in excess of that requested and
a very high indicated SWR (the tuner was in BYPASS mode).
Thinking that the coax length between the K3 and the load
might be an issue, I connected it directly with a male-male
connector to the K3...no difference.

With all the posts about TX shutdown on 6, has ANYONE been
able to successfully use the K# on 6 meters??

Doug
W6JD

K3/100 #23
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[Elecraft] 6M issues

2008-05-27 Thread Dave G4AON

Doug

I've had lots of QSOs on 6m recently using my K3. My calibration worked 
fine too... I haven't noticed any spurious PA temperatures or shut down 
either. Power levels mostly 80 to 100 Watts, CW, SSB and JT6M.


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80


SNIP
With all the posts about TX shutdown on 6, has ANYONE been
able to successfully use the K# on 6 meters??

Doug
W6JD
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RE: [Elecraft] server access denied

2008-05-27 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
Yes, I have.  A few weeks ago when I tried to reply to a message it said
something to the effect that I had to join before I could send the message.
That was strange, because I have been a member for three or four years.  I
attempted to argue with Mr. machine, by stating that I already was a member
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that happens but the cure is to simply rejoin and everything should be okay.

Bruce-W8FU

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Re: [Elecraft] 6M issues.

2008-05-27 Thread David Yarnes

Mine works fine on 6 meters!

Dave W7AQK

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Subject: [Elecraft] 6M issues.


I've only recently become interested in 6M, up until now lacking
an antenna. So, today I attempted to do the TXG calibration on
50 MHz.  Using two different dummy loads I was unable to
accomplish the calibration at either power level, the result was
an indicated output power far in excess of that requested and
a very high indicated SWR (the tuner was in BYPASS mode).
Thinking that the coax length between the K3 and the load
might be an issue, I connected it directly with a male-male
connector to the K3...no difference.

With all the posts about TX shutdown on 6, has ANYONE been
able to successfully use the K# on 6 meters??

Doug
W6JD

K3/100 #23
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Re: [Elecraft] 6M issues.

2008-05-27 Thread John

At 02:33 PM 27/05/08, you wrote:

I've only recently become interested in 6M, up until now lacking
an antenna.


Me too! But, I got interested with all the chatter about great times 
on 6M coming up.


SoI tried it a couple of weeks ago, 6M, I had no output at all. I 
still don't. I've been working with Gary checking various voltage 
readings, etc. No luck yet. My K3 had just come back from Aptos for 
another problem it had. I when received it, it was pronounced meets 
or exceeds all specs. I hadn't opened it up since I got it back and 
never bothered to check it on all bands at that time.


I'm watching with great interest at how these 6M problems play out. I 
really don't want to send it back again, shipping costs are 
expensive. I did learn one thing, when you're in ATU BYPASS mode, 
you're not really bypassing all components in the ATU. I guess kind 
of a pseudo bypass.


My K3/10 is a kit, #501. It came with the ATU, which didn't respond 
to the I/O buss from the get go, along with a couple other things. I 
thought at the time it would have been nice to have the KANT board to 
fall back on. I got the ATU because of the dual antenna ports. In 
hindsight, I would recommend anyone buying a K3 hold off on the ATU 
until the K3 is shipped, then order it. That way you will always have 
a fallback if the ATU fails.


I'm not knocking Elecraft, the service I got and am still getting is 
great, and I feel it will all work out.


John
k7up
K1, 2 K2's, K3




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[Elecraft] K3/100 kit serial no. 980 alive and well

2008-05-27 Thread Stephen Prior
Ordered 24th December, delivered here in the UK 27th May at about 10.30 this
morning.

I haven't put the 100W PA in yet but everything else is done and working, so
far as I can tell.  I'm very very impressed by the receiver and the ssb tx
audio (MH2 mic) sounds extremely nice.

73 Stephen G4SJP




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Re: [Elecraft] 6M issues.

2008-05-27 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Tue, 27 May 2008 14:01:19 -0700, David Yarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mine works fine on 6 meters!

Dave W7AQK


Mine Too!  Although I do have the power shut down problem intermittently.  But
I'm sure that will be addressed by Elecraft in short order, so I'm not letting
that keep me from operating on 6m.


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Subject: [Elecraft] 6M issues.


I've only recently become interested in 6M, up until now lacking
an antenna. So, today I attempted to do the TXG calibration on
50 MHz.  Using two different dummy loads I was unable to
accomplish the calibration at either power level, the result was
an indicated output power far in excess of that requested and
a very high indicated SWR (the tuner was in BYPASS mode).
Thinking that the coax length between the K3 and the load
might be an issue, I connected it directly with a male-male
connector to the K3...no difference.

With all the posts about TX shutdown on 6, has ANYONE been
able to successfully use the K# on 6 meters??

Doug
W6JD

K3/100 #23

You bet!  During the openings in the past couple of weeks I've worked over fifty
stations on 6 meters, from one end of the USA to the other, and that was casual
operating.

Good luck doing your setup.

73,

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[Elecraft] K2: 80m 17m Weak RX, no TX

2008-05-27 Thread John Frerichs
Greetings,
   
  I just completed the Step 3 alignment on a K2.  On 80m and 17m I have weak RX 
and no TX power.  All other bands seem to work fine.
   
  The problem first became known when performing the Step 3, RX pre-alignment 
procedure.  I couldn't hear any appreciable difference in receive audio when 
tuning L3 and L4 from a signal sent from another transmitter (set to the same 
frequency as the K2), sitting right next to the K2.  I set L3 and L4 1.5 turns 
from top, as that's what worked well for the initial 40m alignment in Step 2.  
I continued on with the alignment procedures for the other bands in sequence 
and they tuned up just fine (by ear, so no quantitative measurements are 
available).  When I got to 17m I had the same issue again.  The other bands 
(15m, 10m and 12m) all went well, however.
   
  I had the same problems with the TX alignment.  80m adjustments of L3 and L4 
and 17m adjustments of C32 and C34 showed no power output on my external 
wattmeter (Bird 43).  On 20m~15m and 10m-12m I had no trouble getting full 
power output, however.
   
  On all bands except 80m and 17m the RX seems to work just fine.  With TX 
power, everything seems to work fine with the same exception.  What could I 
have missed?  I thought my understanding of the alignment procedure was 
thorough.  
   
  I'm not an RF engineer.  As such, I'm at a disadvantage.  I'm an experienced 
builder of many electronic devices, but this is my first transceiver.  
   
  Any constructive advice would be appreciated.
   
  Thanks,
   
  -- John
   
   
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[Elecraft] Problem with 15 Meters

2008-05-27 Thread cgolob
I am having problems after installing my 2 band filter module for 80 and 15 
meters. 80 meters works perfect, puts out 5 watts without any problem, however, 
when I switch to 15 meters, the power is severly reduced to 1/10th of a watt. 
Coils L3 L4 L7 and L8 tuned fine. From the RF bandpass filters the RF coming 
out is half of what is going in. Has anybody had this problem before??

73 DE N1URA
-Cory
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[Elecraft] K1

2008-05-27 Thread cgolob
Forgot to mention that the problem with the filter board is for my K1. Also, 
the frequency is correct and can be heard on another receiver. 

73 DE N1URA
-Cory
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[Elecraft] server access denied

2008-05-27 Thread David Lankshear
Yes, same here.

I like to see all messages, with the latest message at the top, hence use of 
this list.  For the last couple of days this server has been unwell and not 
up to date and now it's even more sick HI!  It needs a good dose of K3 
Mojo..

Seriously, thanks for the service and I hope it recovers soon.

73 DaveL   G3TJP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s in WPX CW at P40L

2008-05-27 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 27 May 2008 23:15:36 +0300 (EEST), LY2IJ wrote:

WPX was first contest with K3 for me too.
I still not sure if K3 is much better than my old IC-746 

Huh?  It's much nicer than the FT1000MP it replaced, which runs rings around 
my 746. Only thing missing (over the MP) is the second RX. 

-160 was almost empty

Yes, quite disappointing. 

K3 400 Hz filter 

This is a VERY nice filter for CW contesting. 

NB and NR 

Superb!

no any CI-V box, no CW/PTT interface - just simple serial cable!  

Yes, quite wonderful! 

73,

Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] FS: K2/100 Loaded

2008-05-27 Thread Jim Brown
Gotta pay for the K3, so I'm selling s/n 301, which I bought used 
from the builder about three years ago. It's got the 100W PA in the 
lid, KSB2, K160, KNB, KDSP2, and KAT100 (in the outboard box). Most 
upgrades are installed, but lost track of details. Make Offer. Ship 
to USA only, check or money order only, no Pay Pal. Sale only to 
licensed ham. 

73,

Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] re: K3 Shutdown on 50 MHz -- solution coming soon

2008-05-27 Thread wayne burdick
We've identified the problem and are working on a firmware update that 
will fix it. This will be part of a beta-test release that also 
includes an initial implementation of external ALC. We hope to have it 
out in the next couple of days.


73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: A small milestone!

2008-05-27 Thread TF3KX

Congratulations!  This is an outstanding accomplishment - not only sticking
with QRP, but also with modest wire antennas.  A great example to the rest
of us and some of the newcomers thinking that all is lost if you don't have
at least 100W and a tribander.

Now, do you give any insights on how this was achieved?  Working contests,
odd hours, simply lots of time on the air, using announcements of
DXpeditions, clusters, studying propagation, etc.?

73 - Kristinn, TF3KX


Mike K8CN wrote:
 
 Although this will come as no surprise to many readers of this forum, it
 is possible at the very trough of the sunspot cycle to persist and even
 prosper in QRP mode:
 
 K2/10, #5569, was placed in service on 29 August 2007, and has always been
 operated at 5 W or less.  
 QRP DXCC achieved 22 May 2008 thanks to 5B/LZ2HM.
 Antennas used: 20 meter attic dipole; 135 foot doublet, ladder line fed,
 at 50 feet.
 Longest path: VK3XU, near Melbourne, at approximately 10,527 miles ( 2000
 miles/watt; 40 meter grey line!)
 
 I offer this as encouragement to those who occasionally lament the dearth
 of sunspots and opt for QRO!
 
 Cheers, and a spot of bubbly to all,
 
 Mike, K8CN
 Durham, NH
 

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[Elecraft] K3: Using built in PSK?

2008-05-27 Thread Dave
Hi-
 OK, the K3 works fine using computer generated PSK 31 AFSK, but when I go to 
the internally generated PSK 31 D, 31 bps, I do not get responses to my calling 
CQ or calling stations. The TX and RX filter width is set to 2.7 KHz. I can 
copy perfectly on the radios VFO B copy line and do get a kick out of the auto 
spot feature. I can hear the transmitted signal on my other rig, but it doesn't 
have the fullness of the AFSK sent PSK. Any ideas?

73 de Dave in NH  K1OPQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using built in PSK?

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Cunnings
It only works using the paddle input, not the straight key input - can
this be your problem?

Bob NW8L

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi-
  OK, the K3 works fine using computer generated PSK 31 AFSK, but when I go to 
 the internally generated PSK 31 D, 31 bps, I do not get responses to my 
 calling CQ or calling stations. The TX and RX filter width is set to 2.7 KHz. 
 I can copy perfectly on the radios VFO B copy line and do get a kick out of 
 the auto spot feature. I can hear the transmitted signal on my other rig, but 
 it doesn't have the fullness of the AFSK sent PSK. Any ideas?

 73 de Dave in NH  K1OPQ
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[Elecraft] K3 - 6 Meters - Observaton

2008-05-27 Thread Lee Buller


I cam home this evening to look at my K3 on 6 meters.  All I have now is a 
dummy load, but never had the K3 on 6 meters.  Here is what I found

Hooking the dummy load to the HF antenna port (goes from the K3 to the amp to 
the watt meter, to the tuner (bypassed) to a coax switch) and then to the dummy 
load.  The k3 acted flaky...and the tuner would tune it, but it would not stay 
tune and the SWR would go nuts and the power were back way down.

Hooking the dummy load to the K3 with all the other stuff in lineworked 
great for the 5 minutes I tested it.  No issues at all.  Stayed at 100 watts to 
the dummy load.

So, I am sure the HF stuff was messing with the internal tuner of the K3.

It will be interesting to know the details of the fix.

Lee - K0WA



In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
Common Sense divine?
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[Elecraft] K3: Temporary workaround allows 6-m operation at high power

2008-05-27 Thread wayne burdick
As I mentioned in my last email, we're working on a new beta firmware 
release that will fix the 6-m power shutdown problem.


Meanwhile, there's a simple workaround that, used with caution, will 
let you operate at high power on 6 m with the existing firmware:


1. Locate the PA TEMP menu entry
2. Tap the '1' on the keypad until you see R ONLY (receive only) 
instead of T AND R.

3. Exit the menu.

** CAUTION **

If you select R ONLY, the fans on the KPA3 module will only be 
allowed to change speeds in *receive* mode. We use this undocumented 
feature in our lab to test the 100-W PA's performance at elevated 
temperatures. If the fans were off at the start of a TUNE (or keydown) 
period, they'll stay off until you unkey.


The use of R ONLY will not cause excessive PA temperatures as long as 
you unkey the rig often (say, at least once every 20 seconds). The fans 
will adjust their speed the instant you unkey (between code elements in 
CW mode), release PTT, etc. But this feature should not be used if 
you anticipate long key-down times in voice or data modes. (If you're 
concerned, you could manually set the fan speed to one of the higher 
levels using the KPA3 menu entry. FAN 2 is still pretty quiet, and 
normally doesn't kick in until you hit 50C.)


You'll be able to go back to the normal T AND R setting once you 
update to our next beta firmware release.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

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[Elecraft] mail-archive.com/elecraft

2008-05-27 Thread Peter ZL1PWD
Is the mail-archive server down or has my link gone bad?

It's just that I notice the last listing is dated May 25 0!!

73

Peter  ZL1PWD

K3#139



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[Elecraft] Getting Ready For The 2nd RX

2008-05-27 Thread David Yarnes

Hi All,

I got a chance to briefly see the 2nd RX for the K3 at Dayton.  Sure looks 
like a winner!  Hopefully they will start going out the door at Aptos soon.


In the meantime, those of us who are waiting for one need to do some serious 
thinking about just how we set up RX #1 and RX #2 as to filters.  Unless you 
are loading both of them up, you want to be sure you get the ones you want 
in the right RX from the get-go.  As someone recently posted, it takes a 
couple of hours plus to install the 2nd RX.  So it isn't going to be easy to 
get it in and out if you want to change filters in RX #1.  RX #2 sits on top 
of RX #1, if I understand it correctly, so changing filters in RX #1 will be 
something of a chore.  Hope I get mine right the first time, but bet I 
don't


Dave W7AQK

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[Elecraft] RE: K2: 80m 17m Weak RX, no TX

2008-05-27 Thread John Frerichs
Duhh!  I'm so stupid!  I remember reading in the manual that some caps are 
marked with a zero and some aren't.  
   
  I still reversed Caps: 12/15 and 35/31.  Cap 12/15 values are 560.  Cap 
35/31 are marked 560.  Guess what I did?  Yup.  I read value 560 and placed 
MARKING 560 in its place.  Argh!  What an idiot I am!
   
  Now I have to re-reverse them, so 80/17 will work right.  Yipes!  At least 
they're easy to get to!
   
  I'm kicking myself HARD for that idiotic blunder!
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Re: [Elecraft] Getting Ready For The 2nd RX

2008-05-27 Thread Vic K2VCO

David Yarnes wrote:
 RX #2 sits on top of RX #1, if I understand it 
correctly, so changing filters in RX #1 will be something of a chore.  


Actually, changing filters in the second rx is harder. To change the 
filter in rx 1, you can just lift rx 2 out of the way. But to change the 
filter in rx 2, you must remove it and take the board out of the shield 
box to get at the screw that holds the filter!

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Re: [Elecraft] mail-archive.com/elecraft

2008-05-27 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr.

mail-archive has upgraded their hardware, for the first time in 2.5 years.
They did it on the 25th.  I've dropped them a note politely inquiring if 
there's something that needs to be done on the mailman.qth.net server or 
if the problem is at their end.


Until then, you can use Nabble or Google Groups, or the mailman.qth.net 
server itself.


Leigh/WA5ZNU

Peter ZL1PWD wrote:

Is the mail-archive server down or has my link gone bad?

It's just that I notice the last listing is dated May 25 0!!

73

Peter  ZL1PWD

K3#139



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SV: [Elecraft] Getting Ready For The 2nd RX

2008-05-27 Thread Lennart Michaƫlsson

Actually, changing filters in the second rx is harder. To change the
filter in rx 1, you can just lift rx 2 out of the way. But to change the
filter in rx 2, you must remove it and take the board out of the shield
box to get at the screw that holds the filter!
--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA

... and what filters do the test pilots recommend?
Presently I have 6, 2.8, 0.4 and 0.25 kHz - all being 8 pole.
Would a 2.8 and a 0.4 be enough to keep cost down for a non FM/AM man?
Len/SM7BIC
 

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