[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good evening, I took a break from painting today to walk around the property scouting for next year's firewood. An area I had thinned under the alder had been visited recently. From the residual scent I could tell there had been elk sleeping there within the last two or three days. We have shared land use rights. The sun has been active but only on the other side. Our side of the sun has been blank. Though the bands may be weaker the band noise is too; as long as you can avoid the lightning crashes and waves of QSB you can make contacts. Weak contacts but they are possible. Please join us tomorrow on: 14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday) 7045 kHz at z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday) 73, Kevin. KD5ONS - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Freq. offset?? -- K3
I've found that my K3s takes about 35 minutes to become essentially stable (TXCO) P3 stabilizes a bit faster. IMHO it is important to CAL both pieces of equipment under the same conditions at the same time or as close to it as you can... Also important IMO to not have the HVAC cycling on and off while you are doing the REF CALs... 73, __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 7/29/2017 10:22 PM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > There is a REF CAL adjustment in the P3 menu to make the P3 agree with > the K3/K3S. I have noticed that my P3 seems to drift a bit when it is > first turned, so probably you should wait a while before adjusting it. > The offset is only noticeable at smaller span settings. > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > Formerly K2VCO > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > On 30 Jul 2017 06:17, EUGENE GABRY wrote: >> You might also want to check the frequency calibration of the P3 >> (page 31 in the P3 manual). I happen to notice while checking the K3S >> frequency against WWV and going through K3S calibration, the P3 was >> off about 250hz (with 600hz sidetone). >> >> Gene >> N9TF >> >>> On July 29, 2017 at 8:10 PM Gene O wrote: >>> >>> >>> Just discovered when trying to copy a strong CW signal the frequency >>> seems to offset. I can see the signal on my P3 at say 7024.000 but I >>> hear the station the strongest at 7025.000. This occurs with either my >>> 1.0khz or 400hz filter. >>> >>> Is there some frequency offset that I may set in error? >>> >>> Thanks. Gene, W2BXR > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k...@montac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Freq. offset?? -- K3
There is a REF CAL adjustment in the P3 menu to make the P3 agree with the K3/K3S. I have noticed that my P3 seems to drift a bit when it is first turned, so probably you should wait a while before adjusting it. The offset is only noticeable at smaller span settings. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 30 Jul 2017 06:17, EUGENE GABRY wrote: You might also want to check the frequency calibration of the P3 (page 31 in the P3 manual). I happen to notice while checking the K3S frequency against WWV and going through K3S calibration, the P3 was off about 250hz (with 600hz sidetone). Gene N9TF On July 29, 2017 at 8:10 PM Gene O wrote: Just discovered when trying to copy a strong CW signal the frequency seems to offset. I can see the signal on my P3 at say 7024.000 but I hear the station the strongest at 7025.000. This occurs with either my 1.0khz or 400hz filter. Is there some frequency offset that I may set in error? Thanks. Gene, W2BXR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Freq. offset?? -- K3
You might also want to check the frequency calibration of the P3 (page 31 in the P3 manual). I happen to notice while checking the K3S frequency against WWV and going through K3S calibration, the P3 was off about 250hz (with 600hz sidetone). Gene N9TF > On July 29, 2017 at 8:10 PM Gene O wrote: > > > Just discovered when trying to copy a strong CW signal the frequency > seems to offset. I can see the signal on my P3 at say 7024.000 but I > hear the station the strongest at 7025.000. This occurs with either my > 1.0khz or 400hz filter. > > Is there some frequency offset that I may set in error? > > Thanks. Gene, W2BXR > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Freq. offset?? -- K3
Also check the settings of your side tone frequency. If it is different than you tune, there will be an error. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Ian Kahn wrote: > > Check whether you may have accidentally set the RIT (Receive Incremental > Tuning) or XIT (Xmit Incremental Tuning). That happens to me sometimes. > > 73 de, > > Ian, KM4IK > >> On Jul 29, 2017 9:14 PM, "Gene O" wrote: >> >> Just discovered when trying to copy a strong CW signal the frequency seems >> to offset. I can see the signal on my P3 at say 7024.000 but I hear the >> station the strongest at 7025.000. This occurs with either my 1.0khz or >> 400hz filter. >> >> Is there some frequency offset that I may set in error? >> >> Thanks. Gene, W2BXR >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to km4ik@gmail.com >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
The K3 has not been manufactured in years so of course some issues will occur with older equipment. Elecraft offers excellent support for new and older equipment. The look reminds you of your Kenwood equipment and apparently you do not like your gear's appearance. Why do you own it? Because I travel to the Caribbean with mine, I like the size. John KK9A Thom ki8w wrote: Sat Jul 29 09:59:04 EDT 2017 All I can say to Elecraft is if I had the money to buy a K3 with all the options, given all the issues people have with them on this list, I probably would not even consider buying one. I was not really all that impressed with the look of it when I saw it at Dayton this year. It reminded me of the Kenwood gear, I currently own. 73 Thom KI8W __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Freq. offset?? -- K3
Check whether you may have accidentally set the RIT (Receive Incremental Tuning) or XIT (Xmit Incremental Tuning). That happens to me sometimes. 73 de, Ian, KM4IK On Jul 29, 2017 9:14 PM, "Gene O" wrote: > Just discovered when trying to copy a strong CW signal the frequency seems > to offset. I can see the signal on my P3 at say 7024.000 but I hear the > station the strongest at 7025.000. This occurs with either my 1.0khz or > 400hz filter. > > Is there some frequency offset that I may set in error? > > Thanks. Gene, W2BXR > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to km4ik@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
Since Elecraft got its start in the kit world, many of the early customers were kit builders. As the reputation of the radios has grown, more hams that just want a top of the line radio that works have become customers. These people are much more likely to buy factory built, and not trust a used radio that was not factory built or recently aligned by the factory. I'm glad I got a minimum K3 kit and had the opportunity to add features over the years. I have learned a lot about the radio's construction and use via this route. When I ordered my K3, the big dilemma was K2 or K3. K2 pluses: real kit. Cheaper. K3 pluses: Better radio. When my XYL, after a 1/2 hour user interface conversation at an Elecraft booth, said to get the K3, i ordered the K3. I still dream of building a K2, and the 20th anniversary would be a nice excuse. However, with a K3, KX3, and my wife's KX2, I don't know that I would actually use it. I hope that Elecraft will continue to encourage kit building, as it is the gateway toward electronic experimentation for many people. Offering package discounts on kits would be nice. 73 Bill AE6JV On 7/29/17 at 1:17 PM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote: I get the feeling that Elecraft is selling more factory assembled units than kits. Bill Frantz|"Insofar as the propositions of mathematics refer to 408-356-8506 | reality, they are not certain; and insofar they are www.pwpconsult.com | certain, they do not refer to reality.” -- Einstein __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Is it just me or is 6 meters hotter than usual?
Ed, I am like you and don't think this year is unusual. I believe that the interest in FT8 & JT65 has a lot more hams on the air and we are seeing a better picture of propagation. I also think the modern rigs are better & that are easier to get on 6 meters is a factor! Robie - AJ4F > On Jul 29, 2017, at 20:09, KD7PY wrote: > > I have been on 6 meters since '63 and have seen a lot of up and down of band > conditions in different years, but don't believe this year is anything > special. the really good years is when the sun spot cycle really gets hot, > world wide openings, this year for us up in the pacific northwest the band > openings are below what we have in the past. > What has everyone fired up is WSJT-X FT8 everyone seems to be trying it > out on 6 meters, it will decode sigs way below the threshold of the human > ear. > this year I was able to put in the log BA4SI ( china ) using FT8.. just a > 5 el beam and the KPA500, some of the local big guns have been putting > europe in the log. > I have worked a few HF'ers that put up a dipole for 6 just to try out the > band. > > FWIF Ed KD7py > > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Is-it-just-me-or-is-6-meters-hotter-than-usual-tp7632818p7632838.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rule...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Freq. offset?? -- K3
Just discovered when trying to copy a strong CW signal the frequency seems to offset. I can see the signal on my P3 at say 7024.000 but I hear the station the strongest at 7025.000. This occurs with either my 1.0khz or 400hz filter. Is there some frequency offset that I may set in error? Thanks. Gene, W2BXR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Is it just me or is 6 meters hotter than usual?
I have been on 6 meters since '63 and have seen a lot of up and down of band conditions in different years, but don't believe this year is anything special. the really good years is when the sun spot cycle really gets hot, world wide openings, this year for us up in the pacific northwest the band openings are below what we have in the past. What has everyone fired up is WSJT-X FT8 everyone seems to be trying it out on 6 meters, it will decode sigs way below the threshold of the human ear. this year I was able to put in the log BA4SI ( china ) using FT8.. just a 5 el beam and the KPA500, some of the local big guns have been putting europe in the log. I have worked a few HF'ers that put up a dipole for 6 just to try out the band. FWIF Ed KD7py -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Is-it-just-me-or-is-6-meters-hotter-than-usual-tp7632818p7632838.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft experience
I've been hamming since 1962 so I do have some experience in the hobby. I built and operated an Elecraft K1 in 2001, a K2 in 2004 and a k3 in 2007. I have not had any problems with any of them. The K1 doesn't get used much any more but the K2 I use occasionally because it is a really fun radio to operate. The K3 I use all the time and personally I don't think there is a better radio on the market. Just to be sure, a few years ago I bought and used for several months another brand radio. Sure it was a good radio, but I went back to to my K3. And should I need help, Wayne or Eric or one of their folks are just a phone call away. 73, Joe K4NVJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Maintaining Sanity with Gmail Filters
What’s BS to you may be interesting stuff for others, and vice versa. And quite frequently, the subject line alone doesn’t tell you whether the contents is on one’s personal “preferred reading list”. I’ve always found the Delete key combined with the ability to read to be the most useful and simplest filter. > You can filter on many other search criteria such as sender. That comes in > very handy. > > It almost always works. Sometimes the subject changes a little and usually > the digests where the subject is not changed make it through. I haven't > found a better way but I'm open to suggestions. Unsubscribing means I lose > out on some very relevant and otherwise interesting topics. Maybe another > Elecraft list called Elecraft-BS or something? Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 159, Issue 26
And at age 78+, I hope to own a K3s one day. I love what this team has done, their engineering is second to none, and customer service as I read is superb. I read the forum every day, hoping one day a little break will come my way and I will own this great transceiver. When Heathkit was alive and well, I built many of their kits, including their first Digital Color TV. Maybe one day before I go SK, I will get to build my K3s 73, W1REJ / Dick -Original Message- From: elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 4:27 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Elecraft Digest, Vol 159, Issue 26 Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to elecraft@mailman.qth.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net You can reach the person managing the list at elecraft-ow...@mailman.qth.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: K3S Package Discounts (WILLIE BABER) 2. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Clay Autery) 3. Re: OT K3S Package Discounts (Clay Autery) 4. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Neil Zampella) 5. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Don Wilhelm) 6. Re: Fwd: Re: K3 SHUTTING DOWN (Don Wilhelm) 7. Re: Fwd: Re: K3 SHUTTING DOWN (Colin) 8. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Walter Underwood) 9. Re: Do not sign /QRP (W7BRS Jeff Wandling) 10. Unsubscribe (Bill Parris) 11. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Bob McGraw K4TAX) 12. Is it just me or is 6 meters hotter than usual? (Wayne Burdick) 13. Re: Do not sign /QRP (WP4CW) 14. K3S Package Discounts (John AE5X) 15. Re: K3S Package Discounts (EUGENE GABRY) 16. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Clay Autery) 17. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Wayne Burdick) 18. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Nicklas Johnson) 19. Re: Is it just me or is 6 meters hotter than usual? (Fred Jensen) 20. Re: Is it just me or is 6 meters hotter than usual? (Jim Brown) 21. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT) 22. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Fred Jensen) 23. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Don Wilhelm) 24. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Barry Baines) 25. Re: K3S Package Discounts (Raymond Sills) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:17:29 + (UTC) From: WILLIE BABER To: , Bill W4ZV Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts Message-ID: <1611537811.2391832.1501341449...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I imagine that many persons wanting K3/K3s have one, and so sales may not be as robust as a result. The many improvements over time have created a mature radio--and all essential improvements can be made to an early K3 (same with the K2). I appreciate Elecraft for this approach to building radios. However, this does mean that many of us are using aging K3s that work just as well as the new K3s. I have two K3 radios (so2r), one is about nine years older than the other one but they are both essentially the same. It does seem that the prices associated with adding more options to the basic radio is different from the original sales philosophy of Elecraft: a top performing radio at a price that is lower because you buy only what you need and you can save even more by assembling it yourself. This still applies but not as well as it did with the original K3, first produced some years ago however! I never thought of Elecraft as an inexpensive radio (it looked inexpensive if you purchased the basic kit and nothing else); rather, I could see the savings in purchasing only what I wanted but still had the performance and I/O for the future. Finally, maintaining the K3 is far less expensive (compared to other radios) because many of us can do minor repair ourselves, with instructions provided by Elecraft technicians. 73, Will, wj9b CWops #1085 CWA Advisor levels II and III http://cwops.org/ On Sat, 7/29/17, Bill W4ZV wrote: Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, July 29, 2017, 5:50 AM http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m capabilities, etc into the K3S.? This went against Elecraft's original philosophy of keeping base price low and choosing only the options we really wanted.? This resulted in inflating the base price which put it out of reach for many folks and further away from competing products (IC-7300, Kenwood 590 and Flex 6300).? That must be hurting sales resulting in discounting. A viable option is to buy a recent used K3 and sell/purchase options to configure it as you want.? Basic K3 prices are in the $1500 making this a viable alternative IMHO. 73,? Bill? W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2
Re: [Elecraft] Is it just me or is 6 meters hotter than usual?
E-Skip has been observed as high as 220 MHz. It certainly is prevalent on 144 Mhz, obviously not as much as on 6 & 10 M but it DOES happen. Multiple hop Es can get you quite a ways on 6M, especially if it is combined with some Tropo ducting. During really good F-2 openings, it seems that the higher the MUF, the less power it takes to actually make a contact. I remember working a guy in Nome Alaska on 6 meters. He was running 8 watts to a halo on his 2nd floor apartment balcony and was 20 over 9 here in nawthrun Vuhginya. 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 3:41 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is it just me or is 6 meters hotter than usual? Es happens every summer. It commonly is most prevalent on 6, however 10 is often involved. I've experienced it on 20and 15 on rare occasions. It sure does seem to be more pronounced this year though. For some reason, it seems to abhor the western part of North America. I suspect part of that may be because there are precious few hams out in the Basin and Range to use it... you know, "tree falls in the forest, no one is there ..." There's an RF-quiet QTH in the Bay Area? [:-) 73, __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Maintaining Sanity with Gmail Filters
If there was a like button, I'd press it. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Kevin der Kinderen wrote: > > For those with Gmail, the only way I have found to reduce the amount of > reflector emails that don't interest me is to set up a filter. > > The way I do this is to first do a search on the subject I'm no longer > interested in: "K3S Package Discounts" for example. Then, beside the search > field there's a little arrow you can click. The little popup has a "Create > filter with this search" link at the bottom. Click this. The next popup > lets you decide what to do with current and future emails that meet the > criteria. I select mark as read and delete it. I wish it could do more with > the emails but that's another matter. There's a Learn More link if you get > stuck. > > You can filter on many other search criteria such as sender. That comes in > very handy. > > It almost always works. Sometimes the subject changes a little and usually > the digests where the subject is not changed make it through. I haven't > found a better way but I'm open to suggestions. Unsubscribing means I lose > out on some very relevant and otherwise interesting topics. Maybe another > Elecraft list called Elecraft-BS or something? > > Hope some find this helpful. It does reduce the inane conversations that > drag on for hours and days. You may be able to test it with the subject of > this post. It is a perfect example. > > 73, > Kev K4VD > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to romeado...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Maintaining Sanity with Gmail Filters
For those with Gmail, the only way I have found to reduce the amount of reflector emails that don't interest me is to set up a filter. The way I do this is to first do a search on the subject I'm no longer interested in: "K3S Package Discounts" for example. Then, beside the search field there's a little arrow you can click. The little popup has a "Create filter with this search" link at the bottom. Click this. The next popup lets you decide what to do with current and future emails that meet the criteria. I select mark as read and delete it. I wish it could do more with the emails but that's another matter. There's a Learn More link if you get stuck. You can filter on many other search criteria such as sender. That comes in very handy. It almost always works. Sometimes the subject changes a little and usually the digests where the subject is not changed make it through. I haven't found a better way but I'm open to suggestions. Unsubscribing means I lose out on some very relevant and otherwise interesting topics. Maybe another Elecraft list called Elecraft-BS or something? Hope some find this helpful. It does reduce the inane conversations that drag on for hours and days. You may be able to test it with the subject of this post. It is a perfect example. 73, Kev K4VD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
And, that can be an important feature for those on a tight budget... start with the base rig, and then add features/options as finances permit. Better than waiting who knows how long to save up to buy the fully tricked-out version. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 -Original Message- From: Clay Autery To: elecraft Sent: Sat, Jul 29, 2017 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts Just because they OFFER bundles doesn't mean you can't order a base unit and a la carte. After all... they ain't blowing out IC-7300s here. 73, __ Clay Autery, KY5G On 7/29/2017 6:50 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: > http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg > > I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m > capabilities, etc into the K3S. This went against Elecraft's original > philosophy of keeping base price low and choosing only the options we really > wanted. This resulted in inflating the base price which put it out of reach > for many folks and further away from competing products (IC-7300, Kenwood > 590 and Flex 6300). That must be hurting sales resulting in discounting. > > A viable option is to buy a recent used K3 and sell/purchase options to > configure it as you want. Basic K3 prices are in the $1500 making this a > viable alternative IMHO. > > 73, Bill W4ZV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to raysil...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
Don: Your points are spot on. I can recall back in 2014 when I first started to think seriously about acquiring a K3, it took a significant amount of time to try to figure what options were “important” vs. “desirable” and understanding how options interfaced with each other. It wasn’t until I was at the Huntsville Hamfest in August of that year and could ask questions of the Elecraft Team that I was able to determine what to order. Eric subsequently took my order (K3 w/selected options, KPA500, KAT500 and K3/0-Mini) at the hamfest and it wasn’t long after that I had my ‘goodies’ in hand. I subsequently had my remote station in SE Georgia up and running and have been happy with the setup ever since. What’s interesting about Elecraft’s approach is that this isn’t much different from ordering other ‘high end’ products from manufacturers that offer variations to their product line. Apple offers their computers with variations in CPU, storage capacity, memory capacity, graphics capacity, screen size, etc. based upon ‘common’ consumer interest and price points. Dell and others do the same thing. Automobile Manufacturers offer vehicles starting a basic model, then variations based what ‘packages’ are offered as bundles. Example: Ford offers the base model, then “XLT, then “Limited” then “Sport.” Of course, there are numerous color combinations (exterior and interior) not to mention different interior materials (leather, vinyl, etc.). My point is as consumers, we’re familiar with the idea of ’tailoring’ products based upon common packages that ‘consumers’ (or “amateurs” in this case) would typically order. That doesn’t prevent us from ’special order’ tailored to our specific needs when purchasing automobiles, computers, or now Elecraft gear. In this case, Elecraft offers both ‘packages’ to provide some insight into what ’typical’ purchasers based upon areas of interest (contesting, DX, casual operating) are typically looking for to give potential purchasers an idea of configurations (and price) that meet their preferences while also fulfilling special orders as the purchaser wants to see in their equipment. (not to mention both factory and kit form). Congratulations to Elecraft for providing another product differentiation that focuses on the needs of the purchaser. Along with this approach, I’m also impressed by their ‘upgrade’ pathways for K3 owners wishing to incorporate K3s features which addresses not only enhancing performance but also simplifies the upgrade process while verifying that what leaves the factory is up to spec. This flexibility is somewhat unique to Elecraft within the amateur radio marketplace and reflects well their focus on meeting the needs of the customer which in turn reinforces brand loyalty. We all appreciate the company that stands behind their product. FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW (Currently in Columbia, SC) > On Jul 29, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > On the contrary, I think the decision to offer "standard configuration > packages" is a result of customer questions resulting from confusion about > "what options do I need" and much time devoted to pre-sale communication with > prospective customers. > > Other manufacturers offer an "all or nothing" package that is their current > model/configuration. > > I have witnessed the confusion of many prospective buyers at the Elecraft > booth at many hamfests - there is a lot of confusion about which options they > should include. We endeavor to provide assistance to customize the option > mix to the wants and needs of the customer. > > These "standard" packages is a way to allow customers to purchase a K3S for > the type of operating that they will be doing while minimizing that pre-sale > activity. > > One can still order additional options even with the pre-defined packages > (and I assume also delete some options). But for the customer who is not > familiar with what each Elecraft option will do for their operating > experience, I believe it is a step in the right direction. > > If Elecraft were to follow other manufacturer's footsteps, there would be a > K3S-I, K3S-II and K3S-III designation for each of those bundles, but note > that Elecraft has chosen not to do that. You do not have to sell your K3S-I > to get a K3S-III, just add the options needed to upgrade it. > > That "upgradability" has always been unique at Elecraft. Any K2 can be > upgraded to the electrical equal of a new one, the same goes for the K3 with > the addition of the modules included in the K3S (with only a few minor > exceptions). > > This is part of the Elecraft customer support philosophy. Note that the K2 > is a 1998 design and is still going strong, and still fully supported. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 7/29/2017 11:17 AM, WILLIE BABER wrote: >> I imagine that many persons wanting K3/K3s have one, and so sales may not be >> as robust as a result. The m
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
Nick, Notice the "-F" on the K3S/100 for all 3 bundles. That says Factory built. Whether similar discounts will be offered for a kit version of the same package remains to be seen. I get the feeling that Elecraft is selling more factory assembled units than kits. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/29/2017 3:39 PM, Nicklas Johnson wrote: Are the bundles fully assembled units, or is it possible to get a bundle in kit form? I really enjoyed the assembly of my KX3, and I really like the idea of bundling common options too. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
I guess it is a change from the traditionalElecraft "roll your own from a long list of options" approach, and your point is is valid, at least partially. HoweverI suspect strongly that there are manufacturing/assembly/logistics/support benefits and savings to the company by offering several"canned" configurations. Questions about "Which optionshould I get" often appear on this list, and I've watched the E-folks at Hamfests spend a lot of time helping a new customer figure out what they want/need. The "roll your own" option is still available for those who prefer it, which is not true for other manufacturers, at least to the same degree as from Elecraft. My K3 is old [S/N 642] and it now has what I want and use [except for the DVK which I wanted, bought, but have rarely used].When the K3s showed up, I told myselfthat the first good reason I could come up with to sell it and get a K3s, I'd do it. Still running #642. 73, Fred ("Skip") K6DGW Sparks NV USA Washoe County DM09dn On 7/29/2017 4:50 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m capabilities, etc into the K3S. This went against Elecraft's original philosophy of keeping base price low and choosing only the options we really wanted. This resulted in inflating the base price which put it out of reach for many folks and further away from competing products (IC-7300, Kenwood 590 and Flex 6300). That must be hurting sales resulting in discounting. A viable option is to buy a recent used K3 and sell/purchase options to configure it as you want. Basic K3 prices are in the $1500 making this a viable alternative IMHO. 73, Bill W4ZV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
If you want to rate how good (or how bad) a product is, you have to have a random sampling of owners and equipment. If the sample is self-selected, your sample consists mostly of those having trouble, some who just like to help, and a few who don't own the product. Most Elecraft customers are happily operating, and have no gripes for the list. Nobody notices when things go right. What you can learn from a list like this one is how the company handles problems. Unlike Kenwood, both of the owners and most of the engineers (probably all) are on here, available to customers. 73 -- Lynn On 7/29/2017 6:59 AM, Thom wrote: All I can say to Elecraft is if I had the money to buy a K3 with all the options, given all the issues people have with them on this list, I probably would not even consider buying one. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Is it just me or is 6 meters hotter than usual?
Hi Wayne, There are many Elecrafters on 6M. Great antennas and high power are better than QRP into a wet string, but from Chicago, I worked a guy on Long Island loading a random wire in his basement, and from NorCal, I've worked KH6 and the east coast with 100W into an 80M dipole. :) The hot ticket on 6M right now is FT8, a new mode that's part of K1JT's excellent suite of modes combined into WSJT-X. I made about 8 QSOs this morning into SC, LA, TX, GA, AZ, NM, and OK. I'm running a KPA500 into a SteppIR at 120 ft. These QSOs were all E-skip, and those beyond about 1200 miles were double-hop. E-skip is called "sporadic E" for a very good reason -- it's quite sporadic -- and for double-hop Qs to work there must be a reflecting cloud at two sequential points. FT8 has a s/n advantage of about 10 dB over really skilled CW ops on both ends. JT65 provides an additional 10-12 dB of noise immunity but takes four times longer. Es conditions peak around the summer solstice, and most openings are within 6-8 weeks of that date. There's also a smaller peak at the winter solstice. Serious 6M ops also work meteor scatter, tropo, and even EME. WSJT-X includes modes optimized for each mode of propagation. Before the advent of FT8 (about 6 weeks ago), I found CW and JT65 most productive. This summer, I've made fewer than a half dozen CW Qs. In a very exciting opening about a month ago, I worked two JAs on JT65 in about ten minutes. Both called me when I was CQing to the east! As I responded, I swung the antenna their way and worked them. :) 73, Jim K9YC On 7/29/2017 11:14 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I’m pretty new to 6 meters. I was expecting very limited activity. But now that I have an alert set up on dxmaps.com, I’m finding there are multiple openings every day. There’s an opening right now that includes the west coast. Is the propagation better than usual for July? Unfortunately my antennas for 6 aren’t all that great, and the local noise level is high, so I’ve been making use of every tool in the K3S toolbox (IF NB, DSP NB, NR, AFX, narrow filters, diversity, and CW-in-SSB). I’m considering taking the rig mobile to an RF-quiet location in the Bay Area next time there’s an opening. I have my eye out for a portable 6-meter beam. Now know what they mean by “magic band." Give it a whirl 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to j...@audiosystemsgroup.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Is it just me or is 6 meters hotter than usual?
Es happens every summer. It commonly is most prevalent on 6, however 10 is often involved. I've experienced it on 20and 15 on rare occasions. It sure does seem to be more pronounced this year though. For some reason, it seems to abhor the western part of North America. I suspect part of that may be because there are precious few hams out in the Basin and Range to use it... you know, "tree falls in the forest, no one is there ..." There's an RF-quiet QTH in the Bay Area? [:-) 73, Fred ("Skip") K6DGW Sparks NV USA Washoe County DM09dn On 7/29/2017 11:14 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I’m pretty new to 6 meters. I was expecting very limited activity. But now that I have an alert set up on dxmaps.com, I’m finding there are multiple openings every day. There’s an opening right now that includes the west coast. Is the propagation better than usual for July? Unfortunately my antennas for 6 aren’t all that great, and the local noise level is high, so I’ve been making use of every tool in the K3S toolbox (IF NB, DSP NB, NR, AFX, narrow filters, diversity, and CW-in-SSB). I’m considering taking the rig mobile to an RF-quiet location in the Bay Area next time there’s an opening. I have my eye out for a portable 6-meter beam. Now know what they mean by “magic band." Give it a whirl __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
I have a question on this because it wasn't immediately obvious to me when I looked at the web site the other day. Are the bundles fully assembled units, or is it possible to get a bundle in kit form? I really enjoyed the assembly of my KX3, and I really like the idea of bundling common options too. Sorry if that's a dumb question and I just missed something that was staring me in the face. Nick On Jul 29, 2017 12:31 PM, "Wayne Burdick" wrote: > Correct. The packages are just a convenience based on past ordering > history. > > (FYI, we have a detailed features/performance comparison chart of the K3S > vs. IC7300. Email me directly if interested.) > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > On Jul 29, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > > > > Just because they OFFER bundles doesn't mean you can't order a base unit > > and a la carte. > > > > After all... they ain't blowing out IC-7300s here. > > > > 73, > > > > __ > > Clay Autery, KY5G > > > > On 7/29/2017 6:50 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: > >> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg > >> > >> I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m > >> capabilities, etc into the K3S. This went against Elecraft's original > >> philosophy of keeping base price low and choosing only the options we > really > >> wanted. This resulted in inflating the base price which put it out of > reach > >> for many folks and further away from competing products (IC-7300, > Kenwood > >> 590 and Flex 6300). That must be hurting sales resulting in > discounting. > >> > >> A viable option is to buy a recent used K3 and sell/purchase options to > >> configure it as you want. Basic K3 prices are in the $1500 making this > a > >> viable alternative IMHO. > >> > >> 73, Bill W4ZV > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@n6ol.us > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
Correct. The packages are just a convenience based on past ordering history. (FYI, we have a detailed features/performance comparison chart of the K3S vs. IC7300. Email me directly if interested.) 73, Wayne N6KR > On Jul 29, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > > Just because they OFFER bundles doesn't mean you can't order a base unit > and a la carte. > > After all... they ain't blowing out IC-7300s here. > > 73, > > __ > Clay Autery, KY5G > > On 7/29/2017 6:50 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: >> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg >> >> I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m >> capabilities, etc into the K3S. This went against Elecraft's original >> philosophy of keeping base price low and choosing only the options we really >> wanted. This resulted in inflating the base price which put it out of reach >> for many folks and further away from competing products (IC-7300, Kenwood >> 590 and Flex 6300). That must be hurting sales resulting in discounting. >> >> A viable option is to buy a recent used K3 and sell/purchase options to >> configure it as you want. Basic K3 prices are in the $1500 making this a >> viable alternative IMHO. >> >> 73, Bill W4ZV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
Just because they OFFER bundles doesn't mean you can't order a base unit and a la carte. After all... they ain't blowing out IC-7300s here. 73, __ Clay Autery, KY5G On 7/29/2017 6:50 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: > http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg > > I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m > capabilities, etc into the K3S. This went against Elecraft's original > philosophy of keeping base price low and choosing only the options we really > wanted. This resulted in inflating the base price which put it out of reach > for many folks and further away from competing products (IC-7300, Kenwood > 590 and Flex 6300). That must be hurting sales resulting in discounting. > > A viable option is to buy a recent used K3 and sell/purchase options to > configure it as you want. Basic K3 prices are in the $1500 making this a > viable alternative IMHO. > > 73, Bill W4ZV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
Well stated Don, This was one of the deciding factors for me when I pulled the trigger on Elecraft two years ago. I saw the value in being able to add options along the way as/if, my operating style or conditions changed. Firmware upgrades and support were the other reason. I wanted a rig "I" could grow into over time before time ran out on the current technology "of the day". 73 Gene N9TF > On July 29, 2017 at 11:12 AM Don Wilhelm wrote: > > > That "upgradability" has always been unique at Elecraft. Any K2 can be > upgraded to the electrical equal of a new one, the same goes for the K3 > with the addition of the modules included in the K3S (with only a few > minor exceptions). > > This is part of the Elecraft customer support philosophy. Note that the > K2 is a 1998 design and is still going strong, and still fully supported. > > 73, > Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
Is this where we segue into the quarterly thread about the upcoming K4 and KX4? :-) John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ _ >I imagine that many persons wanting K3/K3s have one 1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Will "Destroy" Your Nail Fungus Wellness Above All http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/597cd33ecf339533e74bfst01vuc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Do not sign /QRP
I've been at ham since 1972. I've been on qrp since the beginning. My first transmitter was 100 mw. My added amplifier was 200 mw. The OX2 and PAX by ICM. Not official but by adding /QRP I was hoping the other party would try to work me. I never looked at it as legal. K1, KX2, K3, & K3s. Ted Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2017, at 10:11 AM, W7BRS Jeff Wandling wrote: > > I always thought it was during the rag chew one would mention the rig. > Then the other station could say "wow all that signal is QRP?". I guess > I've been doing it wrong. Hi hi. > > >> On Friday, July 28, 2017, Keith Hutt wrote: >> >> >> So are you saying that a operator who uses a KX2, KX3 is more experienced >> and >> is a more valid contact than say someone using a FT817?. >> >> Because that is just pure arrogance, saying that Elecraft operators are >> the only experienced >> operators in the world. >> >> Oh and yes i use Elecraft KX2, KX3, K3 on a daily basis, and while i think >> they are the finest radios on the market >> and value for money, there are many people out there who are superb >> operators who do not have the financial means >> to use Elecraft. >> >> Regards >> >> Keith G0TSH >> >> >> -Original Message- From: Dan Baker >> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 4:11 AM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] Do not sign /QRP >> >> Yep thats right do not sign /QRP. Sign /KX2 or /KX3. This way an >> experienced operator will know immediately that you are no fool and that >> this is a Q worth pursuing. >> >> 73, Dan KM6CQ >> -- >> Sent from my iPhone 7 Plus >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to keith.h...@virgin.net >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to dew7...@gmail.com >> > > > -- > Jeff Wandling > DE W7BRS http://dew7brs.blogspot.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wp...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Is it just me or is 6 meters hotter than usual?
I’m pretty new to 6 meters. I was expecting very limited activity. But now that I have an alert set up on dxmaps.com, I’m finding there are multiple openings every day. There’s an opening right now that includes the west coast. Is the propagation better than usual for July? Unfortunately my antennas for 6 aren’t all that great, and the local noise level is high, so I’ve been making use of every tool in the K3S toolbox (IF NB, DSP NB, NR, AFX, narrow filters, diversity, and CW-in-SSB). I’m considering taking the rig mobile to an RF-quiet location in the Bay Area next time there’s an opening. I have my eye out for a portable 6-meter beam. Now know what they mean by “magic band." Give it a whirl 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
I purchased my K3S, my first Elecraft product, based on three factors: Performance, specified configuration as I wanted, and product support. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10163 On 7/29/2017 11:55 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: I agree. People might expect a simple answer to “How much does a K3S cost?”, but they get “It depends” then spend hours trying on the website and this list adding up lists of options. This is that simple answer. I have no doubt that it will increase sales, because it decreases the friction of pricing out a K3S. It would be handy to have the same thing for a fully-loaded KX3, just to avoid all the sums. wunder Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Do not sign /QRP
I always thought it was during the rag chew one would mention the rig. Then the other station could say "wow all that signal is QRP?". I guess I've been doing it wrong. Hi hi. On Friday, July 28, 2017, Keith Hutt wrote: > > So are you saying that a operator who uses a KX2, KX3 is more experienced > and > is a more valid contact than say someone using a FT817?. > > Because that is just pure arrogance, saying that Elecraft operators are > the only experienced > operators in the world. > > Oh and yes i use Elecraft KX2, KX3, K3 on a daily basis, and while i think > they are the finest radios on the market > and value for money, there are many people out there who are superb > operators who do not have the financial means > to use Elecraft. > > Regards > > Keith G0TSH > > > -Original Message- From: Dan Baker > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 4:11 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Do not sign /QRP > > Yep thats right do not sign /QRP. Sign /KX2 or /KX3. This way an > experienced operator will know immediately that you are no fool and that > this is a Q worth pursuing. > > 73, Dan KM6CQ > -- > Sent from my iPhone 7 Plus > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to keith.h...@virgin.net > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dew7...@gmail.com > -- Jeff Wandling DE W7BRS http://dew7brs.blogspot.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
I agree. People might expect a simple answer to “How much does a K3S cost?”, but they get “It depends” then spend hours trying on the website and this list adding up lists of options. This is that simple answer. I have no doubt that it will increase sales, because it decreases the friction of pricing out a K3S. It would be handy to have the same thing for a fully-loaded KX3, just to avoid all the sums. wunder Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jul 29, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > On the contrary, I think the decision to offer "standard configuration > packages" is a result of customer questions resulting from confusion about > "what options do I need" and much time devoted to pre-sale communication with > prospective customers. > > Other manufacturers offer an "all or nothing" package that is their current > model/configuration. > > I have witnessed the confusion of many prospective buyers at the Elecraft > booth at many hamfests - there is a lot of confusion about which options they > should include. We endeavor to provide assistance to customize the option > mix to the wants and needs of the customer. > > These "standard" packages is a way to allow customers to purchase a K3S for > the type of operating that they will be doing while minimizing that pre-sale > activity. > > One can still order additional options even with the pre-defined packages > (and I assume also delete some options). But for the customer who is not > familiar with what each Elecraft option will do for their operating > experience, I believe it is a step in the right direction. > > If Elecraft were to follow other manufacturer's footsteps, there would be a > K3S-I, K3S-II and K3S-III designation for each of those bundles, but note > that Elecraft has chosen not to do that. You do not have to sell your K3S-I > to get a K3S-III, just add the options needed to upgrade it. > > That "upgradability" has always been unique at Elecraft. Any K2 can be > upgraded to the electrical equal of a new one, the same goes for the K3 with > the addition of the modules included in the K3S (with only a few minor > exceptions). > > This is part of the Elecraft customer support philosophy. Note that the K2 > is a 1998 design and is still going strong, and still fully supported. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 7/29/2017 11:17 AM, WILLIE BABER wrote: >> I imagine that many persons wanting K3/K3s have one, and so sales may not be >> as robust as a result. The many improvements over time have created a mature >> radio--and all essential improvements can be made to an early K3 (same with >> the K2). I appreciate Elecraft for this approach to building radios. >> However, this does mean that many of us are using aging K3s that work just >> as well as the new K3s. I have two K3 radios (so2r), one is about nine >> years older than the other one but they are both essentially the same. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: K3 SHUTTING DOWN
Don, Looks like I'll have to do that as it is happening on TUNE. I was trying to elimate all the obvious problems first. 73 Colin, G3PSM On 29/07/2017 17:22, Don Wilhelm wrote: Colin, Does the K3 shut down operating into a dummy load when TUNE is selected? If so, then there is a problem with your K3 - contact support. If it operates fine into a dummy load in TUNE, then suspect a PA temperature problem. It may be that you have a bad PA, but again the folks at K3support can help you with some checks to determine the real source. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/29/2017 9:40 AM, Colin wrote: Mike, Ignoring the mode in use, into a dummy load the K3 is shutting down at power in excess of 40W on tune. I'm using a 40A PSU and a new factory made power lead. I am beginning to suspect the PA. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: K3 SHUTTING DOWN
Colin, Does the K3 shut down operating into a dummy load when TUNE is selected? If so, then there is a problem with your K3 - contact support. If it operates fine into a dummy load in TUNE, then suspect a PA temperature problem. It may be that you have a bad PA, but again the folks at K3support can help you with some checks to determine the real source. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/29/2017 9:40 AM, Colin wrote: Mike, Ignoring the mode in use, into a dummy load the K3 is shutting down at power in excess of 40W on tune. I'm using a 40A PSU and a new factory made power lead. I am beginning to suspect the PA. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
On the contrary, I think the decision to offer "standard configuration packages" is a result of customer questions resulting from confusion about "what options do I need" and much time devoted to pre-sale communication with prospective customers. Other manufacturers offer an "all or nothing" package that is their current model/configuration. I have witnessed the confusion of many prospective buyers at the Elecraft booth at many hamfests - there is a lot of confusion about which options they should include. We endeavor to provide assistance to customize the option mix to the wants and needs of the customer. These "standard" packages is a way to allow customers to purchase a K3S for the type of operating that they will be doing while minimizing that pre-sale activity. One can still order additional options even with the pre-defined packages (and I assume also delete some options). But for the customer who is not familiar with what each Elecraft option will do for their operating experience, I believe it is a step in the right direction. If Elecraft were to follow other manufacturer's footsteps, there would be a K3S-I, K3S-II and K3S-III designation for each of those bundles, but note that Elecraft has chosen not to do that. You do not have to sell your K3S-I to get a K3S-III, just add the options needed to upgrade it. That "upgradability" has always been unique at Elecraft. Any K2 can be upgraded to the electrical equal of a new one, the same goes for the K3 with the addition of the modules included in the K3S (with only a few minor exceptions). This is part of the Elecraft customer support philosophy. Note that the K2 is a 1998 design and is still going strong, and still fully supported. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/29/2017 11:17 AM, WILLIE BABER wrote: I imagine that many persons wanting K3/K3s have one, and so sales may not be as robust as a result. The many improvements over time have created a mature radio--and all essential improvements can be made to an early K3 (same with the K2). I appreciate Elecraft for this approach to building radios. However, this does mean that many of us are using aging K3s that work just as well as the new K3s. I have two K3 radios (so2r), one is about nine years older than the other one but they are both essentially the same. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
We used to call it a 'Short between the headsets!' :) Neil, KN3ILZ On 7/29/2017 11:07 AM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote: Exactly!! I'll bet it's more like 95% PEBCAR (Problem Exists Between Chair and Radio), Along with the "We Don't Need No Stinking Manuals" attitude exhibited by some "real" radio people. We also have the design engineers who like to come on and say how they would have done it differently or their design is better. OK smart guy...where's YOUR Radio company building and selling your self designed wonder of the ages? It's really funny and a nice comical relief respit from the real world. On 7/29/2017 9:43 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: Not to point any fingers at ANYONE, but most of the "problems" that show up here are in fact, miss-interpretations, or.NOT reading the manual in the first place. And I'm as guilty of this as anyone. Hey, I know how to operate a bloody radio right? However, I try not to cry wolf until I have completely proven myself as not the culprit, which means I seldom do post a problem! Another area that can easily be interpreted as a "problem" when scanning the forum is actually with after-market software and/or interfacing with peripheral equipment. If you count the real production/equipment failures vs. "others", I'll bet they're quite low and typical of any quality manufacturer. 73, Charlie k3ICH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT K3S Package Discounts
Yep... I've never has a SINGLE issue that wasn't caused by incorrect "operator head-space and timing". Not one. __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 7/29/2017 9:43 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > As one that is involved in other like type reflectors {owner and / or > moderator}, they are a great source of information, for problem > solving and learning, specially for those new to ham radio or new to a > particular radio. If one would just read the manual that would help > for 75% of the time. RTFM {Read The Full Manual}So in that > light, most things one reads on the reflectors will appear to be > issues. I'd always heard "the bit dog yelps the loudest." What's not > generally seen are the "good ones" being those that are having great > success with their radio. > > Look at product reviews on a place such as Amazon. Same thing. A few > good ones, which are from satisfied customers. It would be > interesting to see the percentage of units sold vs. satisfied customer > posting. At the same time, the percentage sold compared against the > unsatisfied customers posting. The point being, we are quick to > write and post a complaint, but rarely do we take time to share good > results. > > For me, the K3S is on top of the performance and feature list. Issues > and problems on my part at at absolute 0. And I have other radios, > both USA made and JA made. The K3S tops all of them in quality and > performance. Zero complaints and Zero problems here {other than > those where I screw up.} > > Most are quick to fault a product and point fingers. I say, "when > one points a finger, look down, there's likely 3 pointing back at the > true source of the problem". Someone said they didn't like the looks > of it. Hey folks, this is radio, not TV. I can't see what you are > using but I sure can hear it! > > 73 > > Bob, K4TAX > > K3S s/n 10163 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
You do realize that: 1) You will see a disproportionate number of "issues" related posts on a SUPPORT reflector versus the actual issue to total population ratio. Right? IAW... May LOOK like there are a lot of issues but your are looking at the place where everyone with issues posts... NOT seeing a representative sample IAW. 2) The POINT of a modular system is so you can a) get only what you want/need, and b) get what you can afford now and add options later. This is a proven approach allowing folks (like me for instance) to "drive a Cadillac" when the budget says economy car. You can start with a 10 W K3s kit and build it up as funds present... OR you can do like me and hit the ground running with a fully loaded kit (sans 2nd receiver and 2M). 3) If you want flashy looks or flashy looks is high on your priority list, then there are boxes you can buy that flash and go bing. Elecraft builds radios that work, go to the field, and perform at the very top of the game. I'd sacrifice my left arm, right nut, and fight you "tooth and nail" before I gave up my K3S. Try getting this level of performance AND support out of any of the off-shore companies... Try getting most any other company to do hardware and performance updates and make them available at a reasonable price for YOU to install... Just hope you will investigate further... Fact is, I seldom even look at the gear unless I am in the field... I run it through Win4K3Suite, HRD modules, et al on one monitor ... Have the P3 on another big monitor Nice mic on an overhead boom... Only thing on my desktop is my mouse, key, and keyboard... 73, __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 7/29/2017 8:59 AM, Thom wrote: > All I can say to Elecraft is if I had the money to buy a K3 with all > the options, given all the issues people have with them on this list, > I probably would not even consider buying one. > > I was not really all that impressed with the look of it when I saw it > at Dayton this year. It reminded me of the Kenwood gear, I currently > own. > > 73 > > Thom KI8W __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
I imagine that many persons wanting K3/K3s have one, and so sales may not be as robust as a result. The many improvements over time have created a mature radio--and all essential improvements can be made to an early K3 (same with the K2). I appreciate Elecraft for this approach to building radios. However, this does mean that many of us are using aging K3s that work just as well as the new K3s. I have two K3 radios (so2r), one is about nine years older than the other one but they are both essentially the same. It does seem that the prices associated with adding more options to the basic radio is different from the original sales philosophy of Elecraft: a top performing radio at a price that is lower because you buy only what you need and you can save even more by assembling it yourself. This still applies but not as well as it did with the original K3, first produced some years ago however! I never thought of Elecraft as an inexpensive radio (it looked inexpensive if you purchased the basic kit and nothing else); rather, I could see the savings in purchasing only what I wanted but still had the performance and I/O for the future. Finally, maintaining the K3 is far less expensive (compared to other radios) because many of us can do minor repair ourselves, with instructions provided by Elecraft technicians. 73, Will, wj9b CWops #1085 CWA Advisor levels II and III http://cwops.org/ On Sat, 7/29/17, Bill W4ZV wrote: Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, July 29, 2017, 5:50 AM http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m capabilities, etc into the K3S. This went against Elecraft's original philosophy of keeping base price low and choosing only the options we really wanted. This resulted in inflating the base price which put it out of reach for many folks and further away from competing products (IC-7300, Kenwood 590 and Flex 6300). That must be hurting sales resulting in discounting. A viable option is to buy a recent used K3 and sell/purchase options to configure it as you want. Basic K3 prices are in the $1500 making this a viable alternative IMHO. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Confused-about-K3-to-K3S-Migration-service-tp7626459p7632800.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wlba...@bellsouth.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
Exactly!! I'll bet it's more like 95% PEBCAR (Problem Exists Between Chair and Radio), Along with the "We Don't Need No Stinking Manuals" attitude exhibited by some "real" radio people. We also have the design engineers who like to come on and say how they would have done it differently or their design is better. OK smart guy...where's YOUR Radio company building and selling your self designed wonder of the ages? It's really funny and a nice comical relief respit from the real world. On 7/29/2017 9:43 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: Not to point any fingers at ANYONE, but most of the "problems" that show up here are in fact, miss-interpretations, or.NOT reading the manual in the first place. And I'm as guilty of this as anyone. Hey, I know how to operate a bloody radio right? However, I try not to cry wolf until I have completely proven myself as not the culprit, which means I seldom do post a problem! Another area that can easily be interpreted as a "problem" when scanning the forum is actually with after-market software and/or interfacing with peripheral equipment. If you count the real production/equipment failures vs. "others", I'll bet they're quite low and typical of any quality manufacturer. 73, Charlie k3ICH -- R. Kevin StoverAC0H FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 ARRL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT K3S Package Discounts
As one that is involved in other like type reflectors {owner and / or moderator}, they are a great source of information, for problem solving and learning, specially for those new to ham radio or new to a particular radio. If one would just read the manual that would help for 75% of the time. RTFM {Read The Full Manual}So in that light, most things one reads on the reflectors will appear to be issues. I'd always heard "the bit dog yelps the loudest." What's not generally seen are the "good ones" being those that are having great success with their radio. Look at product reviews on a place such as Amazon. Same thing. A few good ones, which are from satisfied customers. It would be interesting to see the percentage of units sold vs. satisfied customer posting. At the same time, the percentage sold compared against the unsatisfied customers posting. The point being, we are quick to write and post a complaint, but rarely do we take time to share good results. For me, the K3S is on top of the performance and feature list. Issues and problems on my part at at absolute 0. And I have other radios, both USA made and JA made. The K3S tops all of them in quality and performance. Zero complaints and Zero problems here {other than those where I screw up.} Most are quick to fault a product and point fingers. I say, "when one points a finger, look down, there's likely 3 pointing back at the true source of the problem". Someone said they didn't like the looks of it. Hey folks, this is radio, not TV. I can't see what you are using but I sure can hear it! 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10163 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
Not to point any fingers at ANYONE, but most of the "problems" that show up here are in fact, miss-interpretations, or.NOT reading the manual in the first place. And I'm as guilty of this as anyone. Hey, I know how to operate a bloody radio right? However, I try not to cry wolf until I have completely proven myself as not the culprit, which means I seldom do post a problem! Another area that can easily be interpreted as a "problem" when scanning the forum is actually with after-market software and/or interfacing with peripheral equipment. If you count the real production/equipment failures vs. "others", I'll bet they're quite low and typical of any quality manufacturer. 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Vic Rosenthal Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 10:26 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts The email reflector is the first place to go if you have a problem. So of course reading it gives you the impression that there are a lot of problems. But I suspect it would be the same with a similar reflector dedicated to ANY manufacturer's equipment. The look... well, that is up to you! Vic 4X6GP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
The email reflector is the first place to go if you have a problem. So of course reading it gives you the impression that there are a lot of problems. But I suspect it would be the same with a similar reflector dedicated to ANY manufacturer's equipment. The look... well, that is up to you! Vic 4X6GP > On 29 Jul 2017, at 16:59, Thom wrote: > > All I can say to Elecraft is if I had the money to buy a K3 with all the > options, given all the issues people have with them on this list, I probably > would not even consider buying one. > > I was not really all that impressed with the look of it when I saw it at > Dayton this year. It reminded me of the Kenwood gear, I currently own. > > 73 > > Thom KI8W __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 error
How is the KPA connected? To what? What is the RADIO setting? If you are using a K3 and have RADIO set to K3, then my guess is you have bad connections in the AUXIO cable. In this mode the KPA. Asks the K3 to switch to the band you request, then it waits for the radio to actually switch. It watches the band signals for this. If they are intermittent or misconnected, it will switch to the wrong band. Did you move things around recently or bump the cable? Check it for the problem. Jack, W6FB Elecraft Engineering Sent from my iPad > On Jul 29, 2017, at 2:44 AM, Holger Doerschel wrote: > > > Hi, > > will not switch to operate any more. The assignments of the most keys is > wrong. For example the 28 Band Key will change the Display to 7.0 MHz. > > Any hints? > > > 73s, Holger . DL9HDA > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
All I can say to Elecraft is if I had the money to buy a K3 with all the options, given all the issues people have with them on this list, I probably would not even consider buying one. I was not really all that impressed with the look of it when I saw it at Dayton this year. It reminded me of the Kenwood gear, I currently own. 73 Thom KI8W On 7/29/2017 07:50, Bill W4ZV wrote: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m capabilities, etc into the K3S. This went against Elecraft's original philosophy of keeping base price low and choosing only the options we really wanted. This resulted in inflating the base price which put it out of reach for many folks and further away from competing products (IC-7300, Kenwood 590 and Flex 6300). That must be hurting sales resulting in discounting. A viable option is to buy a recent used K3 and sell/purchase options to configure it as you want. Basic K3 prices are in the $1500 making this a viable alternative IMHO. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Confused-about-K3-to-K3S-Migration-service-tp7626459p7632800.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@ki8w.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: K3 SHUTTING DOWN
Mike, Ignoring the mode in use, into a dummy load the K3 is shutting down at power in excess of 40W on tune. I'm using a 40A PSU and a new factory made power lead. I am beginning to suspect the PA. 73 Colin, G3PSM On 25/07/2017 17:24, Mike Flowers wrote: If you have a dummy load, try running JT8 or JT65 into that at your usual power.If problem does not reoccur, then likely RFI is the culprit. If it does reoccur, then likely the K3 is having issues. - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Colin Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:15 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: K3 SHUTTING DOWN OPERATING JT65 Buddy/Mike, further to my earlier email the current on receive is actually 1.05A as measured on a digital multimeter and not 5A as indicated on the PSU analogue meter. Of course this doesn't solve the immediate problem. 73 Colin, G3PSM Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [Elecraft] K3 SHUTTING DOWN OPERATING JT65 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:01:10 +0100 From: Colin To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Mike, I am experiencing a similar thing. I had a session on FT8 a few days ago and my K3 shut down completely, in fact it blew a 20A fuse on my alternate 20A PSU but just shuts down on my 40A supply. One thing I notice is that it appears to be drawing nearly 5 Amps on receive which is excessive and one occasion while I was testing actually shut down on receive. It isn't the DC lead as I have replaced that with a factory supplied item. I'm still working on it but unless the experts in this group have any ideas I will attempt to re-invent the wheel. 73 Colin, G3PSM On 23/07/2017 03:17, Michael Walker wrote: Hi Buddy I can thing of 2 things. Overheating .. not likely since usually the RF section shut downs. RF getting into the power supply. Grounding might not make a difference. RF Chokes on the power supply DC cord might help. Oh, the 3rd thing, Is your power supply up to the task? Might it be failing? Throw a volt meter on it. Mike va3mw On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 9:28 PM, buddy s wrote: i am using wsjt-x software for jt65 using my k3. after operating for approximately 2 hours today, i answered a cq, and after 30 seconds the k3 shut down completely. i waited a few minutes and changed antennas. the k3 powered up, and i tried again. same result, shutdown after 30 seconds of transmitting. my power is set to 30 watts, and i am using a kat500 with both antennas. any suggestions, any questions? 73 de W3BS, Buddy Spiegel __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to va...@portcredit.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to colin.g3...@gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mike.flow...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to colin.g3...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m capabilities, etc into the K3S. This went against Elecraft's original philosophy of keeping base price low and choosing only the options we really wanted. This resulted in inflating the base price which put it out of reach for many folks and further away from competing products (IC-7300, Kenwood 590 and Flex 6300). That must be hurting sales resulting in discounting. A viable option is to buy a recent used K3 and sell/purchase options to configure it as you want. Basic K3 prices are in the $1500 making this a viable alternative IMHO. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Confused-about-K3-to-K3S-Migration-service-tp7626459p7632800.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KPA500 error
Hi, will not switch to operate any more. The assignments of the most keys is wrong. For example the 28 Band Key will change the Display to 7.0 MHz. Any hints? 73s, Holger . DL9HDA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com