RE: looking for hardware
There all used up resting my Special Brew!! -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2001 15:51 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: looking for hardware What's wrong with beermats? :-) -Original Message- From: Snook, Kevin S (ITD) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 15 November 2001 16:16 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: looking for hardware Subject: RE: looking for hardware Try re-adjusting the feet on the rack! -Original Message- From: Stuart Swift [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2001 15:10 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: looking for hardware Don't buy Dell in my experiance they are very unstable. -Original Message- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2001 14:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: looking for hardware Me likes Compaq, easy to build up the RAID configs using their smart start disks -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: looking for hardware Dell, IBM, Compaq..not necessarily in that order. -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: looking for hardware I'm shopping for a new server for exch2000. Any best bets? Kim List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Server causing Outlook to periodically crash
Title: Message Hi EveryoneGreat way to start Friday...Running Exchange2ksp1 on win2ksp2 - Completed migration from Exchange 5.5 a few days ago and all seemed well. This morning several users have complained and it has happened to me that Outlook hangs on you. I have left it for some time and nothing happens, it just comes up as not responding - you close it down, open it again and it works just fine (this happens every few minutes to some of the users). We are using a mix of Outlook2K and Outlook2002. I have had a look through the logs on the Exchange box and can find nothing wrong, I have also increased the logging levels and still nothing. I have also rebooted the machine to no change. Being new to Exchange 2000 any ideas or comments would be great. thanks in advance. __RegardsSimon Taylor Senior Systems Administrator? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 020 7539 6808 0780 1104 170communication contains information that is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: one more try-how to gather exch container perms? and DNS mx failover-how?
Hi Pat 1. I do this manually, but I am sure some people have ways and means, you could also spend some money on some third party tools that will make it easier for you. 2. for your failover if you create your primary system in the dns with an mx cost of 10 then create one for your secondary system (mail relay of any sort) of 20. if system a is down then the system sending mail to you will try a connection to it and fail then automatically try the next one down and so on until it gets a connection. Then the system that ends up with the message will automatically try to send it itself, starting at the lowest cost mx record. It will also automatically try the next one if that is down and so on until it does a lookup and gets its own record back - it then know it should sit on this message and retry at a later stage. It will keep retrying until the message times out then generate an ndr. Oops I think I have rambled a bit much, but hope you get the idea. Basically it is very easy to get going and does not require you to configure very much. Hope that helps Simon -Original Message- From: Patrick Smallwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 November 2001 20:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: one more try-how to gather exch container perms? and DNS mx failover-how? All, Just a lowly Exch Admin here and I need a little help with two quick topics: exch 5.5 sp4 1) What method do you guys have in place to audit exchange container permission's? Exch 5.5/SP 4 (other than manually?) 2) DNS mx records/failover...If a particular mail server which has lowest mx record cost is unavailable to take receipt of a message, would the IMS/sending email system (ie pix/sendmail) failover to a second mx record with a greater cost? How is this accomplished, if at all? It would have to be done at the IMS/sending system level, right? Perhaps the sending system times out, and looks for a second mx record? Dont think so, but just wondering Thank you very much!! Pat List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Server causing Outlook to periodically crash
Sounds like it could be a GC problem, and maybe DSAccess is stalling. Is this on a separate server? I'd start looking there. Neil -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 16 November 2001 10:19 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Server causing Outlook to periodically crash Subject: Server causing Outlook to periodically crash Hi Everyone Great way to start Friday... Running Exchange2ksp1 on win2ksp2 - Completed migration from Exchange 5.5 a few days ago and all seemed well. This morning several users have complained and it has happened to me that Outlook hangs on you. I have left it for some time and nothing happens, it just comes up as not responding - you close it down, open it again and it works just fine (this happens every few minutes to some of the users). We are using a mix of Outlook2K and Outlook2002. I have had a look through the logs on the Exchange box and can find nothing wrong, I have also increased the logging levels and still nothing. I have also rebooted the machine to no change. Being new to Exchange 2000 any ideas or comments would be great. thanks in advance. __ Regards Simon Taylor Senior Systems Administrator ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Å 020 7539 6808 Å 0780 1104 170 communication contains information that is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
This morning I had an email from CA wanting my phone number to address my concerns. It appears that they are listening. However, it is too late for them to win us back as a customer. Our purchase orders have been issued for Backup Exec software for our new servers. My experience with CA has not been a happy one, but I really do hope that they can improve their product and support and provide a quality product in the future. Karen List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Problematic Server
I have been asked to look at a server that has been badly installed. It was an SBS 2000 server and yet other packages (VPOP Proxy + vnc Office 2000) had been installed on the system. I was asked in after a couple of my colleagues had used up a period of the time assigned for this task. Unfortunately I probably do not have the time to reinstall the system. Therefore I am trying to remove the component or offending parts install the SBS components. I have disbled the VPOP and proven that Exchange can download the mail and pop3 accounts. (Fine) Problem number 1 is I cant seem to get access to the mailbox from any client as it is throwing up the error The name could not be resolved. The name could not be matched to a name in the address list. The credentials (Username, logon name password and domain are correct) As an aside the existing Outlook 2000 clients that can access the accounts can not have the check name resolved if I try. Any ideas. Thanks in advance Tim Gilroy List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
OWA login problems after changing username
Is there some rule with Outlook Web Access that says you cannot change usernames and still be able to access the account. We have moved to a new username scheme and I have changed a user's username. Now, the only issue he's having is that he cannot login to OWA. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thanks for your time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OWA login problems after changing username
Use the alias or full smtp address for the user login... -Original Message- From: Desiree Herrmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OWA login problems after changing username Is there some rule with Outlook Web Access that says you cannot change usernames and still be able to access the account. We have moved to a new username scheme and I have changed a user's username. Now, the only issue he's having is that he cannot login to OWA. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thanks for your time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Modprof and PRF for Outlook
Has anyone got a copy of a prf file for use with modprof as opposed to newprof. I can't work out exactly where the new variables and syntax should go in the file and would appreciate anyone else's verion to copy. TIA Paul List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Mixed and Native Mode
Can anyone tell me why, when I try to change to Native Mode on my Exchange Server the button is greyed out. I have no other Exchange 5.5 Servers onsite at all, but still it will not let me changed modes. Cheers Jez. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Mixed and Native Mode
You still have an SRS running somewhere I expect. Neil -Original Message- From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 16 November 2001 15:20 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Mixed and Native Mode Subject: Mixed and Native Mode Can anyone tell me why, when I try to change to Native Mode on my Exchange Server the button is greyed out. I have no other Exchange 5.5 Servers onsite at all, but still it will not let me changed modes. Cheers Jez. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Mixed and Native Mode
I'm reading on MS Website at the min. This is probably a really dumb question but I can I just delete it? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 November 2001 15:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mixed and Native Mode You still have an SRS running somewhere I expect. Neil -Original Message- From: Jeramy Eling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 16 November 2001 15:20 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Mixed and Native Mode Subject: Mixed and Native Mode Can anyone tell me why, when I try to change to Native Mode on my Exchange Server the button is greyed out. I have no other Exchange 5.5 Servers onsite at all, but still it will not let me changed modes. Cheers Jez. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: CA becoming more responsive
Well, for what it is worth, I also got a call. Not from a techie or a VP, someone in Marketing. I expressed similar concerns, non-English speaking (writing) tech support, the fact that their solution to everything is re-install, the wait time, etc. What Christina told me was that they are giving the Indian technicians English lessons (she actually said, we make them watch 'Friends') and that she couldn't help me with my technical problems but gave me the number for tech support (just a useless loop for me and the Exchange agent for acrserve). She was going to send me some contact info via email but she said their email was down and didn't know when it would be back up. So, I wouldn't put much stock in the New and Improved CA. Unless you like the witty quips from 'Friends' as a response to your technical issues. Tiffany Ernest Sanborn, John wrote: Having a VP calling does not say much other 'we have do something to APPEAR to be improving'. Once the low-level techs start improving then it would be something worth looking into. Otherwise, it's all so much P.R. propaganda. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: CA becoming more responsive The fact that someone called you is impressive. It's a big maybe, though, that we will go back to them. But I think not. Because of their ARCServe product, our disaster recovery became a running joke. Being a Financial Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as $1 million bucks an hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career on my sleeve or the viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery. Signed, burned once.. Dot Harris -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh chance. FWIW Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: OWA in DMZ
I have an almost identical config here - with the exception of NT4 for the OWA box (don't have much win2k expertise and currently don't run any Exchange stuff on it). Otherwise I do use a 1-way trust from the DMZ, and the port bindings for the DS and IS on the Exchange box are 1225 and 1226 respectively. Those 2 ports and the SMB stuff (137, 138, 139) along with 135 (for the RPC stuff) are opened in this config. Have you opened the ports to the entire trusted segment, or only to specific servers? In our world, the only thing in the DMZ right now is the OWA box - it's kind of dedicated to OWA only, so blowing a few holes into the trusted from there for OWA doesn't make me too nervous. But as more services are added in the DMZ I think I will serioulsy consider the advice of several others on this list and move the OWA server within the trusted (443 coming in) and seal up the DMZ again. That seems to be the message that I hear more and more. just my 2c. randy. -Original Message- From: Dikeman, Bo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: November 15, 2001 12:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OWA in DMZ Good Morning, Please forgive me if this question has already been answered, but I have searched high and low and still can't get things to click right. I am trying to get OWA to work in our DMZ, here is what I have: 1. Exchange 5.5 SP4 running on a W2k member server on the inside. 2. A WinNT 4.0 PDC on the same subnet with the Exchange server 3. A Cisco PIX w/DMZ card 4. A W2k DC (for the DMZ domain) w/OWA 5.5 SP4 in the DMZ There is a two-way trust between the domains for testing. This will eventually be a one-way trust where the DMZ domain trusts the production domain, but not vice versa. I have the following ports open for the OWA box: 53 TCP,UDP; 88 TCP, UDP; 123 TCP; 135 TCP; 389 TCP, UDP; 445 TCP; 3268 TCP; 137 UDP; 138 UDP; and 139 TCP. Oh, and 80. I opened all of these per Q articles that said to do so, but any of these that definitely do not need to be open please let me know. I have also bound NTDS on the w2k box to 1025 and that port (TCP and UDP) is open per Q280132. I have also bound the Exchange IS, DS, and SA to ports in the registry per q259240 and those three TCP ports open in the firewall. The clincher is everything works when the OWA box is on the inside. Once the OWA box is in the DMZ that is not the case. Whenever a user tries to log on to OWA in this situation, they get the hourglass for a couple of minutes and get the script time out error in IE. Also, I have seen a couple of Q articles recommending to set authentication to clear text in IIS, that is set. Any suggestions or any info that someone might need to make a suggestion, please, please fire in. Thanks a bunch, Bo Dikeman, MCSE Network Administrator NorthStar Communications Group, Inc. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
LMAO! Really, I'm speechless, and that doesn't happen to often. -Original Message- From: Tiffany Ernest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: CA becoming more responsive Well, for what it is worth, I also got a call. Not from a techie or a VP, someone in Marketing. I expressed similar concerns, non-English speaking (writing) tech support, the fact that their solution to everything is re-install, the wait time, etc. What Christina told me was that they are giving the Indian technicians English lessons (she actually said, we make them watch 'Friends') and that she couldn't help me with my technical problems but gave me the number for tech support (just a useless loop for me and the Exchange agent for acrserve). She was going to send me some contact info via email but she said their email was down and didn't know when it would be back up. So, I wouldn't put much stock in the New and Improved CA. Unless you like the witty quips from 'Friends' as a response to your technical issues. Tiffany Ernest Sanborn, John wrote: Having a VP calling does not say much other 'we have do something to APPEAR to be improving'. Once the low-level techs start improving then it would be something worth looking into. Otherwise, it's all so much P.R. propaganda. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: CA becoming more responsive The fact that someone called you is impressive. It's a big maybe, though, that we will go back to them. But I think not. Because of their ARCServe product, our disaster recovery became a running joke. Being a Financial Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as $1 million bucks an hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career on my sleeve or the viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery. Signed, burned once.. Dot Harris -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh chance. FWIW Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Expansion server for distribution lists
We are eliminating one of our exchange servers (5.5, SP4) from our site. Unfortunately, a lot of our distribution lists point to this server as the expansion server. Is there a way to change this on all of our distribution lists at once instead of going into each group to make the change? Thanks, Tim List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Expansion server for distribution lists
I expect the expansion server attribute is exportablt to CSV, so you could try massaging the data and re-importing. Neil -Original Message- From: Crosby, Tim (Sarcom) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 16 November 2001 16:07 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Expansion server for distribution lists Subject: Expansion server for distribution lists We are eliminating one of our exchange servers (5.5, SP4) from our site. Unfortunately, a lot of our distribution lists point to this server as the expansion server. Is there a way to change this on all of our distribution lists at once instead of going into each group to make the change? Thanks, Tim List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
LOL! Me: Hello, Tech Support? I installed ArcServe on my Exchange box and now it has a Blue Screen of Death on it. Chandler Vhing: Could your box be any more f*cked? -Original Message- From: Tiffany Ernest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: CA becoming more responsive Well, for what it is worth, I also got a call. Not from a techie or a VP, someone in Marketing. I expressed similar concerns, non-English speaking (writing) tech support, the fact that their solution to everything is re-install, the wait time, etc. What Christina told me was that they are giving the Indian technicians English lessons (she actually said, we make them watch 'Friends') and that she couldn't help me with my technical problems but gave me the number for tech support (just a useless loop for me and the Exchange agent for acrserve). She was going to send me some contact info via email but she said their email was down and didn't know when it would be back up. So, I wouldn't put much stock in the New and Improved CA. Unless you like the witty quips from 'Friends' as a response to your technical issues. Tiffany Ernest Sanborn, John wrote: Having a VP calling does not say much other 'we have do something to APPEAR to be improving'. Once the low-level techs start improving then it would be something worth looking into. Otherwise, it's all so much P.R. propaganda. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: CA becoming more responsive The fact that someone called you is impressive. It's a big maybe, though, that we will go back to them. But I think not. Because of their ARCServe product, our disaster recovery became a running joke. Being a Financial Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as $1 million bucks an hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career on my sleeve or the viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery. Signed, burned once.. Dot Harris -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh chance. FWIW Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No Originator
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2821.txt from: 6.1 Reliable Delivery and Replies by Email If there is a delivery failure after acceptance of a message, the receiver-SMTP MUST formulate and mail a notification message. This notification MUST be sent using a null () reverse path in the envelope. The recipient of this notification MUST be the address from the envelope return path (or the Return-Path: line). However, if this address is null (), the receiver-SMTP MUST NOT send a notification. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) - -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No Originator Ok when I am looking at the Queues for my IMC on my mail servers I see a few e-mails waiting to be delivered that don't have an originator all it has is . How do I find out who sent this mail. Running NT 4.0 sp6 Exchange 5.5 sp4 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Server causing Outlook to periodically crash
Title: RE: Server causing Outlook to periodically crash Also try taking a look at your 5 FSMO roles and see if you've overloaded that system(assuming all roles are on 1 server). Perhaps some of the roles may need to be broken out. Like GC. There are many white papers on this topic on TechNet and in the WIN2K Resource Kit. Hope that helps.. -Rick -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server causing Outlook to periodically crash Sounds like it could be a GC problem, and maybe DSAccess is stalling. Is this on a separate server? I'd start looking there. Neil -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 16 November 2001 10:19 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: Server causing Outlook to periodically crash Subject: Server causing Outlook to periodically crash Hi Everyone Great way to start Friday... Running Exchange2ksp1 on win2ksp2 - Completed migration from Exchange 5.5 a few days ago and all seemed well. This morning several users have complained and it has happened to me that Outlook hangs on you. I have left it for some time and nothing happens, it just comes up as not responding - you close it down, open it again and it works just fine (this happens every few minutes to some of the users). We are using a mix of Outlook2K and Outlook2002. I have had a look through the logs on the Exchange box and can find nothing wrong, I have also increased the logging levels and still nothing. I have also rebooted the machine to no change. Being new to Exchange 2000 any ideas or comments would be great. thanks in advance. __ Regards Simon Taylor Senior Systems Administrator ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Å 020 7539 6808 Å 0780 1104 170 communication contains information that is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
Is that a Friends reference? Computer Associates is desperate. I predict layoffs. William -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive How *YOU* doin? -Original Message- From: Tiffany Ernest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: CA becoming more responsive Well, for what it is worth, I also got a call. Not from a techie or a VP, someone in Marketing. I expressed similar concerns, non-English speaking (writing) tech support, the fact that their solution to everything is re-install, the wait time, etc. What Christina told me was that they are giving the Indian technicians English lessons (she actually said, we make them watch 'Friends') and that she couldn't help me with my technical problems but gave me the number for tech support (just a useless loop for me and the Exchange agent for acrserve). She was going to send me some contact info via email but she said their email was down and didn't know when it would be back up. So, I wouldn't put much stock in the New and Improved CA. Unless you like the witty quips from 'Friends' as a response to your technical issues. Tiffany Ernest Sanborn, John wrote: Having a VP calling does not say much other 'we have do something to APPEAR to be improving'. Once the low-level techs start improving then it would be something worth looking into. Otherwise, it's all so much P.R. propaganda. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: CA becoming more responsive The fact that someone called you is impressive. It's a big maybe, though, that we will go back to them. But I think not. Because of their ARCServe product, our disaster recovery became a running joke. Being a Financial Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as $1 million bucks an hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career on my sleeve or the viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery. Signed, burned once.. Dot Harris -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh chance. FWIW Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof.
None here... -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. Has anyone had any problems with running EX Admin on W2K Professional. I am getting errors when trying to load. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof.
It works very well. What errors? What are you logged in as? William -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. Has anyone had any problems with running EX Admin on W2K Professional. I am getting errors when trying to load. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof.
What errors are you getting -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. None here... -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. Has anyone had any problems with running EX Admin on W2K Professional. I am getting errors when trying to load. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof.
When I try to load the admin piece, (Exchange 5.5 NT 4.0 W2k Prof.) I get an error when it asks for the cd key. I am loading from the Exchange CD. Is there a better way? -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. None here... -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. Has anyone had any problems with running EX Admin on W2K Professional. I am getting errors when trying to load. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof.
No problems herewhat errors are you getting? -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. Has anyone had any problems with running EX Admin on W2K Professional. I am getting errors when trying to load. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof.
We need specifics. What is the exact error you are receiving? -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. When I try to load the admin piece, (Exchange 5.5 NT 4.0 W2k Prof.) I get an error when it asks for the cd key. I am loading from the Exchange CD. Is there a better way? -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. None here... -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. Has anyone had any problems with running EX Admin on W2K Professional. I am getting errors when trying to load. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof.
Make sure you are using the run as command to run the admin program with a user that has rights to admin the Exchange server. Mark -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. It works very well. What errors? What are you logged in as? William -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. Has anyone had any problems with running EX Admin on W2K Professional. I am getting errors when trying to load. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof.
None here either. Shane Scales, MCSE CCNA SPC, Network Engineer/System Analyst, US Army Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:34 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. None here... -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. Has anyone had any problems with running EX Admin on W2K Professional. I am getting errors when trying to load. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
Buy a TV. Joey, from friends. Typical greeting to female types. How *YOU* doin'? sigh J -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Is that a Friends reference? Computer Associates is desperate. I predict layoffs. William -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive How *YOU* doin? -Original Message- From: Tiffany Ernest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: CA becoming more responsive Well, for what it is worth, I also got a call. Not from a techie or a VP, someone in Marketing. I expressed similar concerns, non-English speaking (writing) tech support, the fact that their solution to everything is re-install, the wait time, etc. What Christina told me was that they are giving the Indian technicians English lessons (she actually said, we make them watch 'Friends') and that she couldn't help me with my technical problems but gave me the number for tech support (just a useless loop for me and the Exchange agent for acrserve). She was going to send me some contact info via email but she said their email was down and didn't know when it would be back up. So, I wouldn't put much stock in the New and Improved CA. Unless you like the witty quips from 'Friends' as a response to your technical issues. Tiffany Ernest Sanborn, John wrote: Having a VP calling does not say much other 'we have do something to APPEAR to be improving'. Once the low-level techs start improving then it would be something worth looking into. Otherwise, it's all so much P.R. propaganda. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: CA becoming more responsive The fact that someone called you is impressive. It's a big maybe, though, that we will go back to them. But I think not. Because of their ARCServe product, our disaster recovery became a running joke. Being a Financial Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as $1 million bucks an hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career on my sleeve or the viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery. Signed, burned once.. Dot Harris -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh chance. FWIW Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: send as power
Title: Message "power" makes me think of those He-Man cartoons. " HAVE THE PWERRR!!!" -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - "Sir, a woman preaching is like a dog's walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all." -Samuel Johnson - -Original Message-From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:05 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: send as power Hi, How do I give certain people power to use the 'From' option for the whole organisation? It should be set so it does not say 'on behalf of'. KimList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Tracking relayed messages
Please note: the RFC only says SHOULD NOT -- this means it's not a requirement. There *are* some mail servers that DO show the BCC info in the headers, but don't count on it being there. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - It's strong enough for both of us. - Famous Last Words - -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Tracking relayed messages RFC 2821 Reads ...SMTP clients and servers SHOULD NOT copy the full set of RCPT command arguments into the headers, either as part of trace headers or as informational or private-extension headers... This is why BCC addresses will not appear in the internet headers. Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Dennis Atherton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 November 2001 18:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Tracking relayed messages BCC recipients ARE NOT shown in headers, to prevent BCC recipients from seeing other BCC recipients. they are dropped. This is by design of Internet Mail. -Original Message- From: Bruce Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Tracking relayed messages Yes, I went to sirius.net and saw the same thing. I did not follow it further as you did, and I should have. Not to beat an almost_dead_horse but why did the header info in the email my VP received (original post) not show his real email address there somewhere? Otherwise, how could it get to him? That's what I cannot explain to him. Thanks again, Bruce List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof.
What is the file version for your machine's MFC42.dll? On a Win2K machine, it should be 6.0.8665.0 or later. -Scott - Original Message - From: Scott Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. The error is as follows: The ordinal 6467 could not be located in the dymaic link lybrary MFC42.dll I am logged onto the machine as an administrator. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. It works very well. What errors? What are you logged in as? William -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Loading Exchange Admin on W2K Prof. Has anyone had any problems with running EX Admin on W2K Professional. I am getting errors when trying to load. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
LMAO -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:33 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive What is this TV of which you speak? Seriously, if it had something resembling acting or maybe decent storylines it might prove interesting. I mean if you break your best friend and roommates chair, you tell him. If it wasn't for the excellent rendition of Smelly Cat it wouldn't be worth anything at all. Back on topic: In fact, I wonder if ArcServeIT has had a guest appearance on Friends? William Friends - It Never Ends -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Buy a TV. Joey, from friends. Typical greeting to female types. How *YOU* doin'? sigh J -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Is that a Friends reference? Computer Associates is desperate. I predict layoffs. William -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive How *YOU* doin? -Original Message- From: Tiffany Ernest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: CA becoming more responsive Well, for what it is worth, I also got a call. Not from a techie or a VP, someone in Marketing. I expressed similar concerns, non-English speaking (writing) tech support, the fact that their solution to everything is re-install, the wait time, etc. What Christina told me was that they are giving the Indian technicians English lessons (she actually said, we make them watch 'Friends') and that she couldn't help me with my technical problems but gave me the number for tech support (just a useless loop for me and the Exchange agent for acrserve). She was going to send me some contact info via email but she said their email was down and didn't know when it would be back up. So, I wouldn't put much stock in the New and Improved CA. Unless you like the witty quips from 'Friends' as a response to your technical issues. Tiffany Ernest Sanborn, John wrote: Having a VP calling does not say much other 'we have do something to APPEAR to be improving'. Once the low-level techs start improving then it would be something worth looking into. Otherwise, it's all so much P.R. propaganda. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: CA becoming more responsive The fact that someone called you is impressive. It's a big maybe, though, that we will go back to them. But I think not. Because of their ARCServe product, our disaster recovery became a running joke. Being a Financial Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as $1 million bucks an hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career on my sleeve or the viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery. Signed, burned once.. Dot Harris -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop,
Exchange Operation 5.5 vs. 2000
I have a question, First here is the environment: 3 Exchange 5.5-SP3 Servers(Win2k SP2), this is the main e-mail environment. A sendmail server relays outgoing and incoming mail. Incoming mail is distributed to the appropriate exchange server by e-mail aliases for every address, pointing to the appropriate server for that address. The new piece is an Exchange 2000 server that eventually every mailbox will be migrated to. The AD is in mixed mode. Now here is the setup: Those sneaky Unix guys here have set up some of their own DL's on the Sendmail server. The e-mail addresses of the Sendmail DL's are in the same DNS domain(specifically: 'phcs.com') as the Exchange servers. So we come to the problem...we have moved a few users over to the new Exchange 2k server. When these users were on any of the 5.5 servers, they could send e-mail to one of the Sendmail DL's (eg.: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'). With their mailbox on the Exchange 2k server, sending to the sendmail DL's fails with an Unkown Recipient NDR back from the Exchange Server. It doesn't seem like a mystery to me why the Exchange 2k server won't send out of the site for an address that it treats as internal. But what I can't figure out is why the 5.5 servers will forward a message to the Sendmail server for an SMTP mail address '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' when the IMS is configured to route all 'phcs.com' to inbound. The Senior guys that should know better than I have no clue either. I haven't been here long enough to know if the Exchange servers were somehow hacked to get this behavior. I already have a couple solutions to the problem, but what I'm really wondering is if this is proper behavior for Exchange 5.5 vs. 2000? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
That's their problem - once a customer becomes disenchanted and moves to a competitive product, and it works for them, and they get good support, it's hard to get them back. CA's underinvestment in support staff (and probably SW development) cost them a huge fraction of market share. I think it would have cost them a lot less to have invested in these areas before the customers left. Oh well, maybe they really get it now - it sounds like they are investing and trying to do it right. We'll see ... - Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive The fact that someone called you is impressive. It's a big maybe, though, that we will go back to them. But I think not. Because of their ARCServe product, our disaster recovery became a running joke. Being a Financial Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as $1 million bucks an hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career on my sleeve or the viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery. Signed, burned once.. Dot Harris -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh chance. FWIW Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NTDSNoMatch and Migrating
Simon: Thanks for the info. Looks like NTDSNoMatch will do what I want then. I did some research for articles about the DN issue, but haven't found anything relevant. I agree that I think it will pick up a new DN--it doesn't look like the AD and EX5.5 DS even use the same attributes to store this value. Unfortunately, we don't have additional resources to set up a complete test environment. I'm thinking about setting up a test recipients container on our 5.5 server and creating some dummy mailboxes/accounts before installing the ADC (some with DNs that are off). Then, I can create a connection agreement there first before connecting our real recipients containers to make sure it will work the way I want it to. Would that be adequate? If I understand, it will only synchronize the directory objects that are currently contained in the EX5.5 recipients container that I specify. Is this true even if it is a two-way agreement? Also, have you (or anyone else) used the NTDS Contact setting (as opposed to NTDSNoMatch)? I have set this for our custom recipients to make sure they end up as contacts instead of mail-enabled users, but wondered about success/failures using this as well. I do get in early and was at least initially planning on moving mailboxes during the first hour of each day. Are there any calculations that can be done to estimate the amount of time it takes to move mailboxes based on their size, connection speed, etc? Thanks, Bonnie M. -Original Message- From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NTDSNoMatch and Migrating Hi Bonnie I have just completed this migration myself and have had a few small hitches. One or two of the mailboxes I had to migrate would not move at all (I was moving to new hardware), some of the mailboxes also caused the info store on the new server to die during migration (a bit of an issue if you plan to migrate in working hours). I fixed these easily by running eseutil on the old info store first to fix integrity. Other than that if you follow the document from MS on migration it should go just fine. (If it is a big site and you have the hardware available then I would do this all in a lab first as it is much easier the second time around) To answer your questions (or try at least) 1. When migrating old mailboxes which are used by people other that the name of the mailbox the ADC does create a disabled account (if you choose to) and then it also assigns the correct permissions to those mailboxes for the previous owner accounts. 2. I am pretty sure that it will pick up the new DN and not worry too much about the aliases - I would sort these out anyway in the quest for a nice tidy Exchange server, but that's just me grin Hope that helps. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2001 17:43 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NTDSNoMatch and Migrating Doing some cleanup work to prep for E2k migration (on a new win2k server) and I'm trying to understand something to hopefully get it right the first time. I've used NTDSAtrb to create csv files of the duplcate primary accounts on our EX 5.5 sp3 server (single server, single site). I've not reimported any csv data yet to populate Extension-Attribute-10. Haven't installed/run ADC, ForestPrep, nor DomainPrep yet. Questions: 1) If I choose to import to populate the NTDSNoMatch value, I think I know that ADC will create disabled (if I choose) user accounts in AD for these mailboxes when the ADC agreement is set up and the ADC will re-assign the primary account to the new account. But, will it also correctly re-assign the previous primary account as an owner on the Ex5.5 mailbox, or is this something I have to do manually? Are any delegate permissions affected? And, if permissions are correctly reassigned, do these permission stick when the mailbox is moved to the E2k server? If it doesn't do some of these things, seems like it would make sense for me to do these manually ahead of time as there are less than 20. 2) I've noticed that quite a few of our EX5.5 Directory Name values don't match the Alias Name and/or Primary Account name due to renames, from long ago. When the ADC looks to sync up, does it look at the DN, or does it use the account name (or alias name)? I think it would use the account name, but our previous EX5.5 admin thinks the different DNs could be a problem and that we might need to export to pst and reimport to a new mailbox for every account that is off so that the new DN matches somehow to AD. Thanks, Bonnie M. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
Nope, but they have had one on Just shoot me which is what I'll request if I ever have to use the product again... ;o) D -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive What is this TV of which you speak? Seriously, if it had something resembling acting or maybe decent storylines it might prove interesting. I mean if you break your best friend and roommates chair, you tell him. If it wasn't for the excellent rendition of Smelly Cat it wouldn't be worth anything at all. Back on topic: In fact, I wonder if ArcServeIT has had a guest appearance on Friends? William Friends - It Never Ends -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Buy a TV. Joey, from friends. Typical greeting to female types. How *YOU* doin'? sigh J -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Is that a Friends reference? Computer Associates is desperate. I predict layoffs. William -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive How *YOU* doin? -Original Message- From: Tiffany Ernest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: CA becoming more responsive Well, for what it is worth, I also got a call. Not from a techie or a VP, someone in Marketing. I expressed similar concerns, non-English speaking (writing) tech support, the fact that their solution to everything is re-install, the wait time, etc. What Christina told me was that they are giving the Indian technicians English lessons (she actually said, we make them watch 'Friends') and that she couldn't help me with my technical problems but gave me the number for tech support (just a useless loop for me and the Exchange agent for acrserve). She was going to send me some contact info via email but she said their email was down and didn't know when it would be back up. So, I wouldn't put much stock in the New and Improved CA. Unless you like the witty quips from 'Friends' as a response to your technical issues. Tiffany Ernest Sanborn, John wrote: Having a VP calling does not say much other 'we have do something to APPEAR to be improving'. Once the low-level techs start improving then it would be something worth looking into. Otherwise, it's all so much P.R. propaganda. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: CA becoming more responsive The fact that someone called you is impressive. It's a big maybe, though, that we will go back to them. But I think not. Because of their ARCServe product, our disaster recovery became a running joke. Being a Financial Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as $1 million bucks an hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career on my sleeve or the viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery. Signed, burned once.. Dot Harris -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have
RE: CA becoming more responsive
Was that Michael Duncan? Yup. Contacted you too, I presume. Seems like a step in the right direction. :o) Bob -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Was that Michael Duncan? Isn't it amazing what they'll do when sales start dropping? William -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh chance. FWIW Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: OWA Scroll button
Anyone with an idea? Thanks - Original Message - From: pbailer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:14 PM Subject: Re: OWA Scroll button Sorry we are running EX 2000 Ent, SP1. OWA has all default options. I have noted that users accesing their mail through Netscape have scroll bars but can read their mail only from within their browser. On the other hand, users with IE(5-6) have to launch a separate window for every message they open but the buttons in this separate window are REPLY, FOWARDING,PRINTING. MOVE/COPY and DELETE. My question was wether there are changes I can make either on the EX server or on IE settings so that I have the UP/DOWN scroll buttons for easier message navigation. To get kind of an Outlook Express interface but through OWA. Thanks - Original Message - From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:13 PM Subject: RE: OWA Scroll button That's how it works. If I understand you correctly. But how would I know... I don't even know what version you're talking about. -Original Message- From: Paul Bailer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OWA Scroll button Where do I find the options to bring up the up/down scroll buttons for OWA. Currently, users have to open a different window for every message. Thx .+- @A+a 0 z[lpjoZ\zm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
I send a derogatory email to everyone on CA's website every couple of months. They responded a couple of weeks ago. I invited them to join the lists and peruse the archives. William -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Was that Michael Duncan? Yup. Contacted you too, I presume. Seems like a step in the right direction. :o) Bob -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Was that Michael Duncan? Isn't it amazing what they'll do when sales start dropping? William -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh chance. FWIW Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
Then they'd have to take you to the ER ...where of course another copy is sitting on the counter. W -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Nope, but they have had one on Just shoot me which is what I'll request if I ever have to use the product again... ;o) D -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive What is this TV of which you speak? Seriously, if it had something resembling acting or maybe decent storylines it might prove interesting. I mean if you break your best friend and roommates chair, you tell him. If it wasn't for the excellent rendition of Smelly Cat it wouldn't be worth anything at all. Back on topic: In fact, I wonder if ArcServeIT has had a guest appearance on Friends? William Friends - It Never Ends -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Buy a TV. Joey, from friends. Typical greeting to female types. How *YOU* doin'? sigh J -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Is that a Friends reference? Computer Associates is desperate. I predict layoffs. William -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive How *YOU* doin? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: OWA Scroll button
Anyone ideas on this. Thanks! - Original Message - From: pbailer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:14 PM Subject: Re: OWA Scroll button Sorry we are running EX 2000 Ent, SP1. OWA has all default options. I have noted that users accesing their mail through Netscape have scroll bars but can read their mail only from within their browser. On the other hand, users with IE(5-6) have to launch a separate window for every message they open but the buttons in this separate window are REPLY, FOWARDING,PRINTING. MOVE/COPY and DELETE. My question was wether there are changes I can make either on the EX server or on IE settings so that I have the UP/DOWN scroll buttons for easier message navigation. To get kind of an Outlook Express interface but through OWA. Thanks - Original Message - From: Lefkovics, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:13 PM Subject: RE: OWA Scroll button That's how it works. If I understand you correctly. But how would I know... I don't even know what version you're talking about. -Original Message- From: Paul Bailer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OWA Scroll button Where do I find the options to bring up the up/down scroll buttons for OWA. Currently, users have to open a different window for every message. Thx .+- @A+a 0 z[lpjoZ\zm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
so no one told you that your backups would be gray (clap-clap-clap-clap)... no files, no apps, no mail, your server's DOA seems all your DLT's have been stripped clear, well they've been that way today, this week, all month, and most of the year... but... no one's there for you (when the mob lines the hall) no one's there for you (when your CIO calls) no one's there for you (when you get big blue b*lls) da da da da da da da da da da (etc.) -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: November 16, 2001 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive LOL! Me: Hello, Tech Support? I installed ArcServe on my Exchange box and now it has a Blue Screen of Death on it. Chandler Vhing: Could your box be any more f*cked? -Original Message- From: Tiffany Ernest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:12 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: CA becoming more responsive Well, for what it is worth, I also got a call. Not from a techie or a VP, someone in Marketing. I expressed similar concerns, non-English speaking (writing) tech support, the fact that their solution to everything is re-install, the wait time, etc. What Christina told me was that they are giving the Indian technicians English lessons (she actually said, we make them watch 'Friends') and that she couldn't help me with my technical problems but gave me the number for tech support (just a useless loop for me and the Exchange agent for acrserve). She was going to send me some contact info via email but she said their email was down and didn't know when it would be back up. So, I wouldn't put much stock in the New and Improved CA. Unless you like the witty quips from 'Friends' as a response to your technical issues. Tiffany Ernest Sanborn, John wrote: Having a VP calling does not say much other 'we have do something to APPEAR to be improving'. Once the low-level techs start improving then it would be something worth looking into. Otherwise, it's all so much P.R. propaganda. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: CA becoming more responsive The fact that someone called you is impressive. It's a big maybe, though, that we will go back to them. But I think not. Because of their ARCServe product, our disaster recovery became a running joke. Being a Financial Banking firm where down time can cost us as much as $1 million bucks an hour, I for one am not willing to wear my career on my sleeve or the viability of a good Arcserve backup/recovery. Signed, burned once.. Dot Harris -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh chance. FWIW Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA List Charter and FAQ at:
RE: Difference in rights between administrators and domain admins in Exchange2000?
Have you given user permissions to this user to the additional mailbox? In Exchange Administrator go to the mailbox properties and select the permission tab. -Original Message- From: Bob ten Berge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:09 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Difference in rights between administrators and domain admins in Exchange2000? Hi all, We got a strange problem here, this is what happens: When a normal user in our Exchange environment creates a new profile in his Outlook2000 client, his name and exchange server get underlined, meaning they are both validated; now when that person tries to add additional mailboxes to the profile, an error message pops up right away when clicking on the Add Mailbox button stating that the user cannot be found. Now we remove the profile from Outlook, I make that person a Domain Admin and he makes a new profile in Outlook 100% similar to the previous profile. But now when he hits the Add Mailbox everything works the way it should, i can even remove him from the Domain Admins group, it keeps working. When i make this person member of the group Administrators this does NOT work. So obviously we're dealing with a faulty security setting or police here. Ofcourse this solution is only temporary, on the Exchange2000 server something must be incorrect, I just don't know where to look anymore. I tried changing security settings on several objects within Exchange System Manager but i couldn't find anything there. Maybe i'm looking at the wrong picture here, but I was/am looking for some object that has different rights for Administrators and Domain Admins, if there is anybody out there that has a clue about what i am talking about, please help me!! thanks so much in advance List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: RCPT To Questions
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RE: CA becoming more responsive
And as I told Mr Duncan: they're three years too late. William -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Actually, Mr. Duncan told me they are working on that too. They are holding English classes for their Indian staff. I think he mentioned that it involves more than just language and accent, perhaps mannerisms, social customs such. Maybe they need training in how to deal with wise-ass comments on American-dominated DL's ;o) - Bob -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 7:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive You'll have to forgive me if I don't share in the excitement. One of my biggest problem with CA support is, even when I talk to a dispatcher (who's native language is English) and specifically request to speak to a tech person that uses English as their FIRST language, I still get a call back from a tech (from India?) that I truly cannot understand. As another before has mentioned on this list, I begin to feel bad asking the person on the other end of the phone to repeat, and sometimes even SPELL what it is they are saying because the extremely heavy accent and lack of recognizable diction renders their efforts all but useless. -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Was that Michael Duncan? Isn't it amazing what they'll do when sales start dropping? William -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: CA becoming more responsive Hi, all, Thought I'd share with you my notes on this (surprising) new contact i just had with the Computer Associates VP of Technical Support. Though I had been a vocal critic of CA's tech support in the past, even back when I was an SE, I thought I was a lightweight when it came to CA-bashing on this list. So I was surprised when I got a call from their VP/TS, especially since he was calling from the east coast. Anyway, let me just hit the high points for you ... I told him my main complaints with CA products (ARCserve Inoculan) were lack of real-time tech support, and the nightmare of RegIT. He agreed. Here are a few of the things he told me: - CA has relaxed their registration code, so that now it does not disable the service. - They have beefed up their support staff, with an office in India with 100 techies, and now 80%+ of their calls actually get answered by a real tech support person. Wow! I used to get the take a number, we'll call you back someday runaround. - Their knowledge base has been beefed up. I recall it used to be pretty thin. I haven't checked it out yet. Well, I was impressed that a high-level guy from CA is actually reaching out to customers and people in the industry, and trying to respond to criticisms. Maybe they have turned over a new leaf. I won't have the opportunity to really evaluate them as we are a Backup Exec / Sophos / Antigen shop, and being happy with these I'm not changing horses ... but maybe some of you out there will revisit CA products and give them a fresh chance. FWIW Bob Peitzke Information Systems Manager Sander A. Kessler Associates Santa Monica, CA, USA List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: allowed rcpthosts problem
Apparently, the admin of that mail server is only accepting mail from domains that are on a List of Approved RCPThosts. It seems as if your domain name is not on that list. Do a whois on their domain name speak to the admin. -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Sports Commentary Gem: This is Gregoriava from BulgariaI saw her snatch this morning and it was amazing. (Pat Glenn - Weightlifting commentator) - -Original Message- From: David Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: allowed rcpthosts problem Hey guys has anyone encountered this problem? -- Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: test Sent: 11/14/2001 11:40 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 11/14/2001 11:41 AM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=BWBR?ORG;l=DUCE-04173951Z-2007 MSEXCH:IMS:BWBR_ORG:BWBR:DUCE 3553 (000B09AA) 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) -- Can't find anything on MSKB that seems to help, and have never had this particular error before. Have mail bounce, but due to bad username or domain. TIA dave erickson IT BWBR Architects [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Recall: logging out of OWA?
Q197094 -Michèle Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - There's probably a great big flaw in this theory, but asking myself What would Snake Plisskin do? hasn't steered me wrong yet - -Original Message- From: Siatkowski, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Recall: logging out of OWA? Good luck with your mission Albert :) You can have my copy if you'd like, its only been read once. -Original Message- From: Albert Vasquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Recall: logging out of OWA? Albert Vasquez would like to recall the message, logging out of OWA?. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Relaying - background?
Recently one of my users forwarded me a couple of NDR messages she got, containing stuff like recipient name is not recognized, 550, Relaying denied, user unknown. Our Exchange 5.5/SP3 server is not an open relay, and we are cool with all the ORDB ~ databases, FWIW. This got me wondering about how relaying really works. I know that incoming mail destined for addresses in our domain go to our server, identified by the MX record in our ISP's DNS tables. I know that outgoing mail from our server goes to a mail server at our ISP, which forwards it to other servers in the appropriate domains - but I don't know how our server knows which mail server at our ISP to send stuff to. Our IMS is set up to use DNS for message delivery, not to forward to a specific host. Another part I don't understand is how SPAM works - if our server was an open relay, how would a spammer send messages to our server, but have them addressed to recipients in a different domain? I.e. where is the separate information on mail server to send to and ultimate recipient? I've dug around some in Technet and various knowledge bases, but haven't been able to find any illuminating background on how relaying and spamming works. I'd love to read up on it, if anyone has a pointer to a relevant article. TIA have a nice weekend! Bob Peitzke List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Palm syncing and Deleted item retention
The DATA is toast. I'm going through the very same thing, but with 2 years worth of appoints for a VP. Chapura uses it's own interface and that bypases the MTA completely. DumpsterAlwaysOn, item retention, etc will *not* work here. The stuff is gone forever. Can you say disaster recovery test in progress? J -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Palm syncing and Deleted item retention Does anyone know how the Chapura Pocket Mirror synchsonises between Outlook and Palm PDA? A user has managed to incorrectly synchronise the Palm and wipe out 2,000 contacts from his Outlook and Palm. I have looked in deleted items, and delted item recovery tool with the administrator registry addition to show items in the Contacts folder. The client was Outlook 2000 so the Contacts if hard deleted should still be visible but they are not. Does pocket mirror use it's own MAPI commands and this explains why the items are not available under deleted item retention. Regards, Paul List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: CA becoming more responsive
Right next to the only Gateway machines sold to business in months. running for cover -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Then they'd have to take you to the ER ...where of course another copy is sitting on the counter. W -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Nope, but they have had one on Just shoot me which is what I'll request if I ever have to use the product again... ;o) D -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:33 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive What is this TV of which you speak? Seriously, if it had something resembling acting or maybe decent storylines it might prove interesting. I mean if you break your best friend and roommates chair, you tell him. If it wasn't for the excellent rendition of Smelly Cat it wouldn't be worth anything at all. Back on topic: In fact, I wonder if ArcServeIT has had a guest appearance on Friends? William Friends - It Never Ends -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Buy a TV. Joey, from friends. Typical greeting to female types. How *YOU* doin'? sigh J -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive Is that a Friends reference? Computer Associates is desperate. I predict layoffs. William -Original Message- From: Arnold, Jamie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: CA becoming more responsive How *YOU* doin? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Relaying - background?
Non open Relaying requires a user to login to the server, have an account on the server and have rights to that account. So only Joe can send email from Joe, when Joe is logged in as Joe. The other method is to restrict based on Ip so Joe can only send email if he lives on a 10.0.0.x ip range else he can't sent nothing. Open relay means the server does not care it will send anything from anyone. Joe can send messages from sally to anyone he wants to. The server is purely a MTA. Does that help? Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE -Original Message- From: Bob Peitzke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Relaying - background? Recently one of my users forwarded me a couple of NDR messages she got, containing stuff like recipient name is not recognized, 550, Relaying denied, user unknown. Our Exchange 5.5/SP3 server is not an open relay, and we are cool with all the ORDB ~ databases, FWIW. This got me wondering about how relaying really works. I know that incoming mail destined for addresses in our domain go to our server, identified by the MX record in our ISP's DNS tables. I know that outgoing mail from our server goes to a mail server at our ISP, which forwards it to other servers in the appropriate domains - but I don't know how our server knows which mail server at our ISP to send stuff to. Our IMS is set up to use DNS for message delivery, not to forward to a specific host. Another part I don't understand is how SPAM works - if our server was an open relay, how would a spammer send messages to our server, but have them addressed to recipients in a different domain? I.e. where is the separate information on mail server to send to and ultimate recipient? I've dug around some in Technet and various knowledge bases, but haven't been able to find any illuminating background on how relaying and spamming works. I'd love to read up on it, if anyone has a pointer to a relevant article. TIA have a nice weekend! Bob Peitzke List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm