[lace] My email address was hacked

2011-04-16 Thread Andrea Lamble
Hi all,

As many of you may have guessed my email address was hijacked and a rather
unpleasant email claiming to have come from me was sent to my whole address
book.

Please ignore/delete any email you may have received from
andreal...@hotmail.com or andrealam...@hotmail.com in the last 24 hours. Both
email accounts were hacked and I am unable to access their contents at
present.

Thanks to those who contacted me to let me know that something odd had
happened and to check I was OK. Hopefully my old account will be restored to
me but in the meantime please use andreaplam...@hotmail.co.uk as my contact
email address.

Sorry to burden the list with this but just wanted to let you all know 'it
wasn't me' and that I am safe and well (and not in Madrid).

Best wishes

Andrea Lamble
Cambridge
UK.

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[lace] Inventory???

2011-04-16 Thread lacelady
From: Nancy Neff 
 If I had known how much usable pillows and bobbins (even Continental bobbins) 
were going to cost me eventually I might never have started. Thank heavens I 
didn't know!  Now it's too much fun to stop.


The cost of the art can sneak up on you.  I know some people have one pillow 
and one set of bobbins, and are happy to keep to that.  I tend to get over 
enthusiastic when I'm enjoying myself.

I think back to Arachne 98 when my class list specified bringing 100 pair of 
bobbins.  I gasped, and started counting bobbins.  I found I could just make 
the requirement if I finished two projects, dumped one or two, and spangled all 
bobbins not yet in action.  Then I got to thinking that the average value of 
those bobbins was about $5 each.  That meant that I was packing $1000 worth of 
bobbins in my bag.

I haven't counted my bobbins since then...and have acquired many, many more of 
them. (I would guess over a thousand).  An inventory would be good for 
insurance purposes, but it would also shock my mind on how much I've spent on 
them.  (Plus pillows and all that other stuff.)

How important is it to have a current inventory of all lacemaking equipment?  
Is it really worth the time and effort?

Alice in Oregon ... looking forward to no rain next week.

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Re: [lace] Re: German suppliers

2011-04-16 Thread Achim Siebert
There's even a shop in the center of Berlin, selling lace supplies and 
handicraft from the Erzgebirge:

http://www.kloeppeln-berlin.de/index.php

Klöppelstube
Rathausstraße 21
10178 Berlin Mitte

Tel. +49-30-27576669

Best, Achim.

Am 15.04.2011 um 13:56 schrieb Ilske Thomsen:

 the question about shops selling lace related materials I answered privately. 
 But here are the addresses i found again for all of you.
 
 Klöppelkiste
 Wasserschloßweg 6
 09123 Chemnitz  part  Klaffenbach
 this is far away from Chemnitz itself but a lovely place
 Tel: 03712600743
 
 Klöppelshop Köck
 Hauptstraße 13
 92539 Schönsee
 Tel 09674 258
 
 Ilske
 
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Re: [lace] antique bobbins

2011-04-16 Thread Laceandbits
Hi Sue, 
the very best thing I have found is Granny Almans Old Fashioned Furniture 
Polish  Reviver.  It is a mix of linseed oil, distilled white vinegar and 
sugar!  I don't know what the proportions are and have never bothered to try 
to work it out as it's not expensive.  Phone 0116 255 8854 to see if they 
will send it to you.  I see them at craft fairs and steam rallies.  She does 
beautiful corn dollies and straw lace, he does soaps and the like, including 
the polish.  You may have seen them if you go to that sort of event, but 
not realised about his polish, as I know they do go to East Anglia.  They are 
based in Leicester.

It is very liquid, and you need to shake it every time you tip it up as it 
separates very quickly, but it cleans off dirt without removing the patina, 
soaks into the wood and brings back a soft sheen.  With very dry wood I 
usually have plenty on the cloth, and rub them over to remove the dirt then 
leave them to dry.  I then give them another rub/pat with more polish and leave 
to dry (this doesn't take long) and when they don't seem to be absorbing any 
more, and have dried again, then I polish them up with a dry cloth.  It is 
excellent for any furniture that needs tlc.  All my Bucks thumpers and other 
old bobbins have been treated with it, and some were in a dire condition 
but now glow.

Shame I'm not working on commission.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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Re: [lace] antique bobbins

2011-04-16 Thread Achim Siebert
I recommend Renaissance Micro-cristalline Wax Polish. It's recipe stems from 
the British Museum to be used for conservation and is acid free. I used it on 
bobbins, leather and marble already with very good results. Not cheap, but one 
of the 200 ml cans is probably enough for a lifetime of bobbin polishing and 
conserving. The first thing I do when I get new (or antique) bobbins is rubbing 
them with some of this wax.

Here's the manufacturers website: http://www.picreator.co.uk/

Best, Achim.

Am 16.04.2011 um 00:20 schrieb Sue:

 I have just bought some antique wooden bobbins, can anyone tell me how I can
 put some life into the wood without  using grease or anything that might
 damage threads because they are very dusty and look as if they have not been
 used in many, many years.
 
 
 
 Sue M Harvey
 
 Norfolk Uk

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Re: [lace] Inventory???

2011-04-16 Thread Clay Blackwell
I have wondered the same thing at one time or another.  I asked my 
insurance agent about whether my supplies were covered under my 
homeowner's insurance, and the answer was that I would have to compile 
an inventory (preferably with photographs) and get a rider on my 
insurance to cover these things, since it is  clear to me that the total 
exceeds the limit my insurance company puts on this sort of thing.  It 
would be the same as insuring cameras or jewelry or musical instruments...


So, for me, the question comes down to...  when will I make the time to 
take that inventory and the pictures?  Sigh...  I'd rather make lace.


Clay

On 4/16/2011 4:02 AM, lacel...@frontier.com wrote:
How important is it to have a current inventory of all lacemaking 
equipment? Is it really worth the time and effort?

Alice in Oregon ... looking forward to no rain next week.



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Re: [lace] RE: first lace pillow

2011-04-16 Thread Sister Claire
My first lace pillow was a 60cm straw-stuffed Belgian cookie pillow. It was
*far* more pillow than I needed and in the years since I have only rarely
used much of its surface.

I had never done bobbin lace, never seen it done in person, but dearly
wanted to try it. So I contacted an online dealer (now out of business) and
naively asked them to put together what I needed to get started. Huge
pillow, dozens of bobbins, threads, a book. It cost me a small fortune. They
made a lot of money off this naive beginner.

Even so, all turned out well. That's not how I would recommend kitting out a
newbie, but none of it's gone to waste!

Sr. Claire

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Re: [lace] RE: first lace pillow

2011-04-16 Thread Clay Blackwell
The guild I first joined had loaner kits which newbies could take home 
with them and keep for two or three months, which gave them enough time 
to decide whether they wanted to continue making lace.  I had only had 
my loaner kit a couple of weeks before I started looking at suppliers so 
I could get my own.  I bought several dozen plain bobbins and spangled 
them myself, and the guild held a pillow-making session where we 
brought our wooden circles pre-cut, along with a piece of upholstery 
foam and some muslin (calico to those in UK), and while I stood on the 
upside-down pillow (rotating around the edge as needed), the fabric was 
stapled to the backside of the wood until it was nice and tight.  I 
later covered the pillow with velveteen - seemed so elegant at the 
time.  It was 18 in diameter.  But I soon longed for something 
larger...  and so began the endless quest for the perfect pillow!


So, except for the fact that you *might* have decided not to continue to 
make lace, your initial investment was very wise!  No money spent on 
pillows that were too small, too flimsy, poorly made, etc.


I have one of those lovely straw-stuffed Belgian cookie pillows.  It is 
in need of more straw, and I have no idea how to tackle that project!!


Clay

On 4/16/2011 8:48 AM, Sister Claire wrote:

My first lace pillow was a 60cm straw-stuffed Belgian cookie pillow. It was
*far* more pillow than I needed and in the years since I have only rarely
used much of its surface.

I had never done bobbin lace, never seen it done in person, but dearly
wanted to try it. So I contacted an online dealer (now out of business) and
naively asked them to put together what I needed to get started. Huge
pillow, dozens of bobbins, threads, a book. It cost me a small fortune. They
made a lot of money off this naive beginner.

Even so, all turned out well. That's not how I would recommend kitting out a
newbie, but none of it's gone to waste!

Sr. Claire



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Re: [lace] Inventory???

2011-04-16 Thread Sue Babbs
When this came up on Arachne in about 2002, I decided to buckle down and do 
my inventory, for insurance purposes. I store it in Excel, with details of 
spangles, inscriptions, costs, supplier etc. It was a lot of work - and 
revealed a huge collection of bobbins! Now, the collection grows slowly 
(generally one or two at a time, apart from the exciting occasion when I was 
given someone else's collection) so there is not much to do to maintain it / 
add to it.


My son looks ahead in all things, and likes to be prepared for everything. 
(At 7, he was busy planning the toy shop he would own when he was grown-up, 
and working out details like whether it should be a shop or a market stall 
and where he would get the price labels!) So he is very grateful to know 
that this file exists, so that he has some clue how to dispose of them after 
my death (which we both hope will be a long time off).


Sue

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Re: [lace] Inventory???

2011-04-16 Thread Alan Sheila Brown

On 16/04/2011 09:02, lacel...@frontier.com wrote:

From: Nancy Neff

  If I had known how much usable pillows and bobbins (even Continental 
bobbins) were going to cost me eventually I might never have started. Thank 
heavens I didn't know!  Now it's too much fun to stop.


The cost of the art can sneak up on you.  I know some people have one pillow 
and one set of bobbins, and are happy to keep to that.  I tend to get over 
enthusiastic when I'm enjoying myself.

I think back to Arachne 98 when my class list specified bringing 100 pair of 
bobbins.  I gasped, and started counting bobbins.  I found I could just make 
the requirement if I finished two projects, dumped one or two, and spangled all 
bobbins not yet in action.  Then I got to thinking that the average value of 
those bobbins was about $5 each.  That meant that I was packing $1000 worth of 
bobbins in my bag.

I haven't counted my bobbins since then...and have acquired many, many more of 
them. (I would guess over a thousand).  An inventory would be good for 
insurance purposes, but it would also shock my mind on how much I've spent on 
them.  (Plus pillows and all that other stuff.)

How important is it to have a current inventory of all lacemaking equipment?  
Is it really worth the time and effort?

Alice in Oregon ... looking forward to no rain next week.

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Insurance of bobbins.


I  put mine under contents which covers them individually up to a 
certain amount.  Some people put them  in  as tools of the trade'.
Since I have many Barry Adams ivory(old piano keys) bobbins if I priced 
them out I'd need a mortage to cover the yearly premium.   It's not only 
bobbins -pillows, books, threads .   The list is endless of the extras 
we collect.   A nightmare when we came to downsize yet again to a much 
smaller house.  My solution was to give most of my antique laces to The 
Manor House Museum in Bury St. Edmunds together with books on history 
and identification.   This way they have become available to other 
lacemakers and not just me.

Sheila in Sawbo' where it has turned colder and grey.

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Re: [lace] The Manor House Museum in Bury St. Edmunds (was: Inventory???)

2011-04-16 Thread Linda Walton

On 16/04/2011 15:29, Alan  Sheila Brown wrote:
[snip]

The list is endless of the extras we collect.
A nightmare when we came to downsize yet again to a much smaller house.
My solution was to give most of my antique laces to The Manor House
Museum in Bury St. Edmunds together with books on history and
identification. This way they have become available to other lacemakers
and not just me.
Sheila in Sawbo' where it has turned colder and grey.


What a generous solution to this problem!

And I was eager to visit Bury St. Edmunds and see the laces, until a web 
search discovered that the museum had closed in 2007.


There is a brief video of a sample of the collections,
http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/video67970-.html
which was exquisitely lovely, and including what appears to be at least 
one piece of lace.


Do you know what has happened since?

Linda Walton,
(recovering from some sort of 'flu thing in High Wycombe, 
Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it is a still afternoon with cool air and 
hazy sunshine - very peaceful).


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Re: [lace] Inventory???

2011-04-16 Thread The Lace Bee
--- On Sat, 16/4/11, lacel...@frontier.com lacel...@frontier.com wrote:

The cost of the art can sneak up on you. I know some people have one pillow
and one set of bobbins, and are happy to keep to that. I tend to get over
enthusiastic when I'm enjoying myself.

I think back to Arachne 98 when my class list specified bringing 100 pair of
bobbins. I gasped, and started counting bobbins. I found I could just make the
requirement if I finished two projects, dumped one or two, and spangled all
bobbins not yet in action. Then I got to thinking that the average value of
those bobbins was about $5 each. That meant that I was packing $1000 worth of
bobbins in my bag. snipped

 
I am working on a piece which has 70 pairs of bobbins.  The average cost of a
bobbin on the pillow is £15 (sterling) in today's money, plus spangle.  Call
it £18.  My husband and I were just talking about the insurance apect of
taking the pillow to my lace group.  In all, with pattern, pillow, extra
blocks, thread, bobbins and also spare bobbins, thread, tools and pillow bag,
I walk out of the house carrying a minimum of £2600 worth of equipment.
 
My household insurance would probably not cover this activity.
 
L


Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website:
http://thelacebee.weebly.com/




I haven't counted my bobbins since then...and have acquired many, many more of
them. (I would guess over a thousand).  An inventory would be good for
insurance purposes, but it would also shock my mind on how much I've spent on
them.  (Plus pillows and all that other stuff.)

How important is it to have a current inventory of all lacemaking equipment? 
Is it really worth the time and effort?

Alice in Oregon ... looking forward to no rain next week.

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[lace] First Lace Pillow

2011-04-16 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Friends,

My first lace pillow was the seat of a hideous vinyl arm chair in a 
rented flat in Darwin, Northern Territory, way back in 1981. I left 
it full of 1000 pin holes and only succeeded in making a fine macrame 
bookmark!! Still Mum treasured that in her Bible till she died.


David in Ballarat

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[lace] Who draw the Working Diagrams?

2011-04-16 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Friends,

I am currently working on a complex piece of Chantilly from Ulrike's 
Schwartzarbeit. It's the one where the working diagrams are on pp.61-63.


Firstly I'd like to warn anyone who is attempting this piece in the 
future that those working diagrams are upside down and thus have to 
be scanned and flipped - which is no big deal these days. It's no use 
just turning the book upside down.


But having used them now for a week or so, I began to wonder who that 
wonderful person was who actually drew them. They really are 
perfection in their intricacies.


Whoever you are, you have my heartfelt thanks and praise for a job well done.

David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] First Lace Pillow

2011-04-16 Thread Sue Babbs
Mine was a strange, straw-filled, rectangular pillow about 12 inches x 8 
inches x 3 inches, which I was given by a friend before I even knew about 
bobbin-lace. She came from Bedfordshire and told me this was what the pillow 
was used for. It is nicely covered in blue cotton, and would be a lot more 
useful if it had a circular cross-section, and could then be used as a 
bolster.


Has anyone else met up with a lace pillow like this one?

I used it for the first piece of lace I made from the Readers' Digest 
handbook, but then gave up trying lacemaking as the thread used was so thick 
and the design so odd that I couldn't believe it was lace!!


Later another fired talked me into going to evening classes with her - and 
that turned out to be to make lace.




Sue

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Re: [lace] First Lace Pillow

2011-04-16 Thread J-D Hammett

Hi Sue et all,

Yes, I have a rectangular pillow, which was my first. I made it myself by 
using a piece of plywood with the corners rounded and a blue 'duck' (sail 
making canvas)bag fitted over it. It took me a whole weekend to chop straw 
and remove the nodes from it. Then stuff the canvas bag on one side of the 
board very tightly with the aid of a short broomstick and a mallet. My arms 
were extremely sore with all that effort. The pillow holds the pins 
beautifully but is VERY heavy. It is about 23 by 15 inches and goes from 
about 2/3 '' on the edge to about 3.5'' in the middle


Also, at one time I left a piece of laceon it for too long and the brass 
pins I'd used had were oxidised and at one with the straw (I found out later 
that straw is quite acidic). That time I had to take my pins out with a pair 
of pliers leaving little green dots of 'verdigris'  on my lace. It was an 
expensive lesson as I was unable to remove the spots from my lace and in the 
end discarded it.


Now I use high density ethafoam pillows. I refuse to count my pillows or 
bobbins for inventory. That is too much lace-time wasted.


Joepie, East Sussex



From Sue Babbs


Mine was a strange, straw-filled, rectangular pillow about 12 inches x 8
inches x 3 inches, which I was given by a friend before I even knew about
bobbin-lace. She came from Bedfordshire and told me this was what the pillow
was used for. It is nicely covered in blue cotton, and would be a lot more
useful if it had a circular cross-section, and could then be used as a
bolster.

Has anyone else met up with a lace pillow like this one?

I used it for the first piece of lace I made from the Readers' Digest
handbook, but then gave up trying lacemaking as the thread used was so thick
and the design so odd that I couldn't believe it was lace!!

Later another fired talked me into going to evening classes with her - and
that turned out to be to make lace.



Sue

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Re: [lace] Who draw the Working Diagrams?

2011-04-16 Thread Achim Siebert
Hello David,

 But having used them now for a week or so, I began to wonder who that 
 wonderful person was who actually drew them. They really are perfection in 
 their intricacies.

As far as I know Ulrike draws them all by herself.
Lucky you to have a copy of her first Chantilly book - I'm still searching for 
it. But the second volume has wonderful patterns as well - work for a lifetime 
of lace making.

Good luck with your piece of Chantilly!
Achim.

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Re: [lace] First Lace Pillow

2011-04-16 Thread The Lace Bee
I still have my first lace pillow from back in 1990.  It is an 18 SMP
polystrene which my lace teacher sold to me for £8 together with a cover and a
cover cloth.
 
It was only when I went to my first Springett's fair that september did I
realise that I could have bought direct from them and got it cheaper.  I was a
little annoyed because the money to buy the equipment had not come from the
teacher - it infact came from our employer who gave us £500 for supplies and
books.  We were supposed to borrow from the equipment library then if we
wanted the equipment we bought it and the money was used to replace it with
new stuff.  Because our teacher didn't work for the company but her husband
did I think a couple of the people invovled saw a chance to make a little
money.
 
Anyway back to my pillow. 
 
It was a lovely shape to start learning on because the dome was really high. 
This meant that the bobbins hung well on the pillow and being high they didn't
need to have short threads to prevent them hitting the table. I loved that
pillow.  I used it every day for a year.
 
Unfortunately the centre is virtually distroyed.
 
One of my most prized pillows is by Rosemary Robinson (it's her large fan
pillow where the centre is circular and moves within the main pillow) not just
because of the design but because she always layers felt onto her polystrene
so if it does start to break up it will be kept in place. 

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

thelace...@btinternet.com

My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website:
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[lace] Reviving antique bobbins

2011-04-16 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids

I was interested in the replies to the query about cleaning antique bobbins.
The polishes recommended all sound very useful, especially Grannys Old
Fashioned Furniture Polish, I am allergic to many of the solvents and this
sounds like it might be my answer.

One additional comment I would like to make. No one mentioned that you should
not use any of these polishes on the neck where the thread is wound, since any
polish remaining here will be absorbed by the thread, and preferably not on
the head either as the thread will be rubbing across it. These areas are best
cleaned by rubbing with a dry cloth or if they are dirty then clean with a
barely damp cloth and then rub briskly with a dry one to remove any dampness
and buff the surface.

Once you have restored your bobbins the best treatment for keeping them bright
is using them. What a wonderful excuse for lacemaking.

Keep lacemaking and keep your bobbins bright

Alex

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[lace] antique bobbins

2011-04-16 Thread Sue
Many thanks for all the suggestions on how to revive my old dusty bobbins, I
will try a few of them and see what comes up the best.  

 

Sue M Harvey

Norfolk UK

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[lace] New Australian book

2011-04-16 Thread Noelene Lafferty
There's a new book out here in Australia of Torchon lace designs - see
http://tinyurl.com/42b8nbn

I've got my copy, and am delighted with it.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

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Re: [lace] First Lace Pillow

2011-04-16 Thread Janice Blair
Sue,
Your pillow sounds very much like the dimensions of a needlelace pillow like 
the 
one I was given recently.  It is very hard and heavy.
Janice

Mine was a strange, straw-filled, rectangular pillow about 12 inches x 8 
inches x 3 inches, which I was given by a friend before I even knew about 
bobbin-lace. She came from Bedfordshire and told me this was what the pillow 
was used for. It is nicely covered in blue cotton, and would be a lot more 
useful if it had a circular cross-section, and could then be used as a 
bolster.

Has anyone else met up with a lace pillow like this one?
Sue
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Admin: Andrea's message

2011-04-16 Thread Avital
Tamara,

You're too clever to be taken in by this kind of spam. ;-)
Unfortunately, there are people out there who don't think these things
through and unfortunately they send payment ... only to get an
embarrassed email a few months later saying, Hi, everyone, my account
was hacked. Hope no one got hurt...

I got the same message on Facebook chat, from someone I hardly knew,
so that raised my suspicions. I replied, Sorry, go find another
victim, and got a smiley in return.

Avital

 I got it both ways -- in private and on the list -- and read it first on my 
 personal mail. Since I don't know Andrea personally, I was startled to see 
 the apology for not letting me know of her trip. Once that first alarm bell 
 sounded, I read the rest of the message (in poor English, not really excused 
 by the trauma described) with some amusement, looking for other oddities and 
 inconsistencies. Then trashed it, moved on to reading Arachne and, by golly, 
 there it was again :)


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