Re: [LegacyUG] Events in Assigned Sources list in tree from GEDCOM

2009-09-07 Thread Paul Brown
Hello Paul,

I think what you are looking at is the list of POTENTIAL items for which a 
source could be entered - if appropriate.  In the same way, any new entered by 
you has Death and Burial listed in this potential list.  I believe they cannot 
be removed but they will not show up in reports unless some data gets entered 
for that particular source.

(I selected Had No Children and clicked Remove, and that didn't seem to work.)  
The Remove in this instance is to remove any data entered for that potential 
source.  Clicking Remove will remove the data entered but not the potnetial 
source from the list.

In my opinion, no need to be concerned about them.

Paul Brown
Townsville, Queensland, Australia.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Ramshaw 
  To: legacyusergroup 
  Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:51 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Events in Assigned Sources list in tree from GEDCOM


  I imported a GEDCOM file. Man A married Woman B and had children with her and 
then married Woman C. When I look at the Assigned Sources list for man A, there 
are four events listed for each marriage: 


Marr: woman B
Had No Children: woman B
Did not marry woman B
Mar Notes: woman B


  Why does the list show the Had No Children and Did not marry events for woman 
B (when it's clear from the information in the file that they did marry and 
they did have children)?  Should I just ignore those events?  Is there a way to 
remove them?  (I selected Had No Children and clicked Remove, and that didn't 
seem to work.)




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RE: [LegacyUG] Events in Assigned Sources list in tree from GEDCOM

2009-09-07 Thread ronald ferguson

The only ones which you need concern yourself with are those which have entries 
against them. The list on the left is simply a list of the Events which are 
available to you.



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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Events in Assigned Sources list in tree from GEDCOM
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 I imported a GEDCOM file. Man A married Woman B and had children with her and 
 then married Woman C. When I look at the Assigned Sources list for man A, 
 there are four events listed for each marriage:

 Marr: woman B

 Had No Children: woman B
 Did not marry woman B
 Mar Notes: woman B

 Why does the list show the Had No Children and Did not marry events for woman 
 B (when it's clear from the information in the file that they did marry and 
 they did have children)? Should I just ignore those events? Is there a way to 
 remove them? (I selected Had No Children and clicked Remove, and that didn't 
 seem to work.)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Greetings

2009-09-07 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Dennis - I've not had a lot of experience with the formulas you share  
with us.  Is this a formula applied via Access or one that is from the  
LTools area? If an Access item, could you steer me to a site that  
might explain the building and application of the formulas.  I have  
the LTools but have not been able to apply some of them to my  
files.They look like a great feature to mass change items, so would  
sure appreciate some feedback.


Bob


On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:59 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

The best way I have found is using the 'search' tab with the  
'microscope' icon (use Detailed Search tab). Choose Individual;  
Notes, Burial; contains; the letter 'a' or 'e', with no ' '. This  
should find at least 99% of the examples. Then tag each, and once  
'fixed' remove the tag.

Rich in LA CA

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From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Greetings
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 6:06 PM
On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:36:08 -0400,
Lester Davis les...@davisdeyoe.com
wrote:


and better yet is there a way to remove ALL of the

burial notes?

I don't know of a way to do it in Legacy. But you can
easily do it using
MS Access or another tool.

UPDATE tblIR SET tblIR.BuriedNote = 

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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Jenny M Benson

Jenny M Benson wrote
Like most people, I find the full range of Individual Tags 
indispensable, use the Source Tag sometimes and the Location Tag 
occasionally, but have never had any reason to use a Marriage Tag.


Perhaps I'd better clarify that.  I meant the like most people to 
apply to the first part only, about Individual Tags.

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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Michele Lewis
I too use the individual tags (several of them) all the time but I have 
never used the marriage tags.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Greetings

2009-09-07 Thread RUNION ROBERT
Dennis - Disregard my earlier request for clarification on removing  
all the burial notes - I was able to apply the formula through the  
LTools feature on  a test of one of my saved files. It works really  
great, but your 'SQL...' caution is not to be taken lightly! :-)  is a  
veritable axiom  - the change occurred in a blink of an eye.  I did  
discover that the file had to be 'saved' out of Access or it rendered  
the database useless (error).  I had to delete it and re-save a valid  
file to that location. I'm still trying to learn the LTools and its  
features - it is pretty powerful.  Thanks for the formula - I'll have  
to study some of the others now that I see how they work.


Bob



On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:

On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:36:08 -0400, Lester Davis les...@davisdeyoe.com 


wrote:


and better yet is there a way to remove ALL of the burial notes?


I don't know of a way to do it in Legacy. But you can easily do it  
using

MS Access or another tool.

UPDATE tblIR SET tblIR.BuriedNote = 

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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Ron Taylor
Under search you can find all marriages that have status divorced but at this 
point the option to tag all of those marriage records has not been added to the 
program.  You can manually set those tags in Legacy and then use the Marriage 
Tag tool at the bottom right to look at each of the tagged marriages.  Another 
good example would be to find all marriages with place containing Boise.  The 
search works well but again there is no option to set those marriage tags for 
the search results.  Instead, you can set the individual tag but if an 
individual has multiple marriages...not all of them will be in Boise so you 
will have to page through them to find the one that triggered the tag.

Summary:  Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool and should be developed.  
Millennia needs to add to the Advanced Tagging the option to tag the 
marriages.  Most of the other tools are already present to use those tags in 
searches, etc.

Ron Taylor

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 5:55 AM

Yes, I belong to those most people, and never had any reason to use the 
Marriage Tag. I only meant that a user who tagged the marriages can print the 
Search List of those tagged marriages.
How usefull this is? I don't know.
Evert


2009/9/7 Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk

Jenny M Benson wrote 


Like most people, I find the full range of Individual Tags indispensable, use 
the Source Tag sometimes and the Location Tag occasionally, but have never had 
any reason to use a Marriage Tag.


Perhaps I'd better clarify that.  I meant the like most people to apply to 
the first part only, about Individual Tags. 



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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Evert van Dijken
Yes, I agree.
I think there are some enhancement requests for marriage tagging in Mantis
(bug/enhancement tracking). I hope that in the near future the marriage tags
will get the same options as the individual tags.
Evert

2009/9/7 Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com

   Under search you can find all marriages that have status divorced but
 at this point the option to tag all of those marriage records has not been
 added to the program.  You can manually set those tags in Legacy and then
 use the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to look at each of the tagged
 marriages.  Another good example would be to find all marriages with place
 containing Boise.  The search works well but again there is no option to
 set those marriage tags for the search results.  Instead, you can set the
 individual tag but if an individual has multiple marriages...not all of them
 will be in Boise so you will have to page through them to find the one that
 triggered the tag.

 Summary:  Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool and should be
 developed.  Millennia needs to add to the Advanced Tagging the option to
 tag the marriages.  Most of the other tools are already present to use those
 tags in searches, etc.

 Ron Taylor

 --- On *Mon, 9/7/09, Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Evert van Dijken evandij...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 5:55 AM

  Yes, I belong to those most people, and never had any reason to use the
 Marriage Tag. I only meant that a user who tagged the marriages can print
 the Search List of those tagged marriages.
 How usefull this is? I don't know.
 Evert

 2009/9/7 Jenny M Benson 
 ge...@cedarbank.me.ukhttp://mc/compose?to=ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
 

 Jenny M Benson wrote

 Like most people, I find the full range of Individual Tags indispensable,
 use the Source Tag sometimes and the Location Tag occasionally, but have
 never had any reason to use a Marriage Tag.


 Perhaps I'd better clarify that.  I meant the like most people to apply
 to the first part only, about Individual Tags.

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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Evert, Thanks for the search suggestion. Should have thought of that
myself. It could be of some help.

Jenny, What makes the Source and Location tags useful is the little
box you can tick to Show only Tagged so you can focus on a small
select list. The Individual (Name) List has Search  Show all Tagged 
Individual Tag #. I would think Legacy could do the same on the
Marriage List for the Marriage tags. This would make marriage tags
very useful to me.

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On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Jenny M Bensonge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
 Evert van Dijken wrote

 Search  Find  Detailed Search: Look for whom? - Marriage; Where to look
 - Marriage Tag 1...9

 Yes, but assumes you have some reason to tag the Marriages in the first
 place!

 Like most people, I find the full range of Individual Tags indispensable,
 use the Source Tag sometimes and the Location Tag occasionally, but have
 never had any reason to use a Marriage Tag.
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Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Hi Ron,

I have manually set Marriage tag 1 for about 100 marriages which have
one Master Source. All that work for naught. I can't focus on just
those marriages.

Can you explain the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to look at
each of the tagged Marriages?
I'm not sure what you're seeing.

Thanks
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On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Ron Taylordoit4...@yahoo.com wrote:
snip
 You can manually set those tags in Legacy and then
 use the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to look at each of the tagged
 marriages.

Snip

 Summary:  Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool and should be
 developed.  Millennia needs to add to the Advanced Tagging the option to
 tag the marriages.  Most of the other tools are already present to use those
 tags in searches, etc.

 Ron Taylor




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RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread ronald ferguson

Richard,
 
(I know - wrong Ron!) It works OK for me. Go to Family View and click the arrow 
next to Marriage Tag 1 (make sure it is set to 1) and it moves through the list 
one at a time.



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 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:53:33 -0700
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?
 From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com

 Hi Ron,

 I have manually set Marriage tag 1 for about 100 marriages which have
 one Master Source. All that work for naught. I can't focus on just
 those marriages.

 Can you explain the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to look at
 each of the tagged Marriages?
 I'm not sure what you're seeing.

 Thanks
 --
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 http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
 http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova

 On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:
 
 You can manually set those tags in Legacy and then
 use the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to look at each of the tagged
 marriages.

 

 Summary: Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool and should be
 developed. Millennia needs to add to the Advanced Tagging the option to
 tag the marriages. Most of the other tools are already present to use those
 tags in searches, etc.

 Ron Taylor


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Re: [LegacyUG] Master source question

2009-09-07 Thread SgtBob
Jenny - If I created a new source with all the data I wanted that 'mirrors' an 
older one, and then combined the older one with the new one, would all the 
sources be changed to the new source?  It seems to me that I have tried this 
and the data is now reflected with the new source.  Could you elaborate on the 
consequences of this?

Bob

 Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: 
 
  I was wondering if I could change the specific Master Sources I created
  (e.g., Giovanni Barberi's Civil Birth Record, 22 Jan 1833, Cerreto
  Sannita, Italy) and transform them into a general Master Source (e.g.,
  Civil Birth Records 1809-1860, Cerreto Sannita, Italy).  If I can do that,
  it will make my effort much easier.
 
 It's easy enough to amend or edit a Master Source and then EITHER save it
 to overwrite the previous version OR save it as a new version with a
 different name.  If you take the former option, you will then need to go
 to each person using that Master Source and change the Source Details as
 appropriate.  If you take the latter option, no one will be using the
 newly created Source and you can then go through your file attaching that
 new Master Source as required, with appropriate Source Details.  In that
 case, you will probably also be deleting the old Source from some people.
 
 Having said that, I would think about how many people and Sources you have
 entered and decide whether it is worth starting again from scratch.  You
 do not need to re-enter all the individuals' data, just delete the Master
 Sources, create new ones and attach as required.
 
   Also, since I have created specific
  Details associated with each specific Master Source, could I amend those
  Details to include more detail and link them to the appropriate newly
  created Master Sources?
 
 If you edit a Master Source and re-save it with the same name, you can
 then go to anyone using that Source and edit the Source Details.  But if
 you delete a Master Source you will also delete any Source Details
 attached to it and if you create a new Master Source (either from scratch
 or by amending an existing one) there will be no Source Details to edit.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?

2009-09-07 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I just tested the way the marriage tags work now, and the change I asked for in 
2004 is not there yet. How I tested. Tagged Individual 1 and Marriage 9, then 
Searched for them. It found the correct 2 people, and when I untagged the M9, 
it found correctly the sets of M9 off and on, but what I had wanted originally, 
and still want, is for the screen to show only the actual couple on the 
Marriage list, in the same way the Individual search list, shows only the 
desired names. The marriage list NEVER can be trimmed to less that ALL 
marriages on the list.
Example: One idea I wanted to see was exactly only the marriages in a 'tag 
list'. The program also needs 2 more fieldsadded to the crowded screen. The 
ones there already are sort in MRIN, male and female name alpha order, and the 
needed extras are male Rin and female Rin number sorts. 
All I want is for Legacy to, while using the Marriage List screen, showing only 
tagged on the marriage tag, instead of the full list. With almost 9000 couples, 
I NEED a tool for a partial list. 
Is this in any way what some of you were asking for?
Rich in LA CA

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote:

 From: ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is good for?
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:10 AM
 
 Richard,
  
 (I know - wrong Ron!) It works OK for me. Go to Family View
 and click the arrow next to Marriage Tag 1 (make sure it is
 set to 1) and it moves through the list one at a time.
 
 
 
 Ron Ferguson
 
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  Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:53:33 -0700
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The marriage tag - What is is
 good for?
  From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  Hi Ron,
 
  I have manually set Marriage tag 1 for about 100
 marriages which have
  one Master Source. All that work for naught. I can't
 focus on just
  those marriages.
 
  Can you explain the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom
 right to look at
  each of the tagged Marriages?
  I'm not sure what you're seeing.
 
  Thanks
  --
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  http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
  http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
 
  On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:
  
  You can manually set those tags in Legacy and
 then
  use the Marriage Tag tool at the bottom right to
 look at each of the tagged
  marriages.
 
  
 
  Summary: Marriage tagging could be a valuable tool
 and should be
  developed. Millennia needs to add to the Advanced
 Tagging the option to
  tag the marriages. Most of the other tools are
 already present to use those
  tags in searches, etc.
 
  Ron Taylor
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master source question

2009-09-07 Thread Jenny M Benson

SgtBob wrote
Jenny - If I created a new source with all the data I wanted that 
'mirrors' an older one, and then combined the older one with the new 
one, would all the sources be changed to the new source?  It seems to 
me that I have tried this and the data is now reflected with the new 
source.  Could you elaborate on the consequences of this?


Yes, if you merge a Source you have already used with another Source, 
all the records which had used the previous Source will now use the new 
one.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Filter for location details

2009-09-07 Thread Gene Young

noddie wrote:

Hi everyone

I am trying to do a search, filter for anyone who is born in Doncaster 
who has no death or burial details./


I did this:

Individual
Death place
Equal to
blank

This works however it also picks up everyone born in different place so 
I have a large search list of people.
What could I use as  a second condition to filter this out better so I 
only find the following


Anyone born/christened in Doncaster
and
Anyone who does not have information in the Death/Burial place

Thanks heaps for any help with this.  I am a little confused how it 
should work.


Gwen



Check the box marked Second Condition, select and, and enter 
Individual, Birth Place, Equal to Doncaster


AND

check the box marked Third Condition , select or, and enter 
Individual, Chr Place, Equal to Doncaster.


This should do it for you.

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Gene Y.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Filter for location details

2009-09-07 Thread Angela Gabbard
Go to the search page detailed search page

Individual death place equal to blank then check AND (2nd condition)
Individual birth place equal to doncaster





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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of noddie
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:07 PM
To: Legacy user group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Filter for location details

Hi everyone

I am trying to do a search, filter for anyone who is born in  
Doncaster who has no death or burial details./

I did this:

Individual
Death place
Equal to
blank

This works however it also picks up everyone born in different place  
so I have a large search list of people.
What could I use as  a second condition to filter this out better so  
I only find the following

Anyone born/christened in Doncaster
and
Anyone who does not have information in the Death/Burial place

Thanks heaps for any help with this.  I am a little confused how it  
should work.

Gwen



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