Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Dawn, Given the information you have shared, it might be that what you want to do is better handled by Legacy's TAGGING feature. I don't remember how much tagging is covered in free Legacy's help file, but you might want to take a read there. Colors can be set over and over again as you move people around in your ancestor tree. --Paula From: Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 9:01 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 I'm A TMG user but now have to look for new home, since TMG will no longer be tech supported, just forum. I've narrowed down to these 2 software programs and both have great features. I think it's coming down to the coloring features. TMG has a slew of colors to choose from, for however you wanted to setup your lines, such as, non-related lines with same name, unknown lineages, adopted lines, lines from Europe, etc etc. In Legacy, I’m not fully understanding the coloring system. It seems line I can only do two color scheme in each project. I have one project with seven different lines of the same name. I don’t want to make 7 projects because a lot of the people are in the wrong lines and I need to switch over into correct colored line. Also I have only the standard Legacy, I haven’t bought the deluxe, so maybe you can do this but only in the deluxe level? II read that Legacy is working with TMG to do a transfer file, will the color system be worked in, to be brought over? Or has any TMG switched and found the color coding to be okay. I would hate to do this and find my coloring system gone. TKS · Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
On 01/12/2014 16:39, Barbara Levergood wrote: Another possibility would be to treat the Legacy Tags as one would a 9-bit binary number. However, to distinguish 10 lines, you would need to use only 4 Tags. Where T is tagged and u is untagged: Tags - 1234 Line 1 - uuuT Line 2 - uuTu Line 3 - uuTT Line 4 - uTuu Line 5 - uTuT Line 6 - uTTu Line 7 - uTTT Line 8 - Tuuu Line 9 - TuuT Line 10 - TuTu I started to compose a post saying that one could have dozens of Tags by using them in combination, but then I abandoned the idea when I had thought about it a bit more. I realised that it would place severe restrictions on how you could Search. In the example above there are 3 different sets of people with Tag 1 set. If one wanted to search for, say, all people tagged 1 AND a couple of other conditions, one would have to search the Search List several times in order to exclude all those who had other Tags set in addition to 1 and fulfilled the other Search criteria. I decided it was probably going to be more trouble than it was worth. I do think much can be done with UserID though. The simplest method would be to use an initial letter for each line as either the whole UserID or the first element of it. I already do this with my database where my UserIDs combine a prefix letter with the RIN. The letters I use are the initials of the surnames of my 4 grandparents, with another set of letters for the later generations where the grandparent lines have merged. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
You could try the userID field and display that field on the family page
instead of RIN - using the same UserID for each group you want separated.
Options View 8.2
AlanP
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From: Barbara Levergood [mailto:leverg...@att.net]
Sent: 01 December 2014 16:40
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Thanks, Cheryl, for not staying out of it :). A lot of us TMG users are trying
to figure out how we can do things in our new software. This is very hard
sometimes because we are not nearly as familiar with the new software, because
it is often hard to think outside of the TMG box, and because we have such
long lists of workarounds we are trying to find. So, any feasible ideas are
welcome! They may not work for all, but they may work for some.
For those who do not knot their undies easily ... I experimented with putting
the number or letter in parens, say (11), after any real suffix.
The parens would distinguish the code from any true Prefix or Suffix that I
have and from the RINs (displayed as [11]) and user IDs (displayed as {11}).
Another nice thing about the prefix/suffix solution is that those fields are
searchable. So, I could search for all persons coded (11) or for all persons
coded at all ((). This is not a replacement for more tags (which can be set
via Advanced Tagging), but it might be a feasible workaround for some.
Another possibility would be to treat the Legacy Tags as one would a 9-bit
binary number. However, to distinguish 10 lines, you would need to use only 4
Tags. Where T is tagged and u is untagged:
Tags - 1234
Line 1 - uuuT
Line 2 - uuTu
Line 3 - uuTT
Line 4 - uTuu
Line 5 - uTuT
Line 6 - uTTu
Line 7 - uTTT
Line 8 - Tuuu
Line 9 - TuuT
Line 10 - TuTu
This would have the advantage that one would learn to count to 10 in binary
very quickly.
Barbara L.
On 12/1/2014 10:34 AM, singhals wrote:
I polly outta stay out of this, but I won't.
After following the thread here, sounds to me as if you don't really
need *colors*, all you really need is a way to distinguish the 23 John
Smith or Benedict Beek one from the other.
In the name fields, Legacy has both a prefix and a suffix, both of
which will display in the Name List as well as the family-view and
pedigree view. Pick one of 'em, and assign your color-lines a number
-- me, I'd assign the line with the most people the #1; but you could
assign Amber as #1 and Yellow as #25; or your own line as #1, etc.
The possibilities probably rival those 256 million colors 90% of the
population can't distinguish anyway.
If this knots up your undies, no need to say so, you can just ignore
me. Lots of people *DO*.
Cheryl
Who still not-so-secretly prefers PAF 2.31.
Dawn Beeks wrote:
Barbara,
Thanks for your input.
Because I have 10 different lines of “beeksâ€, when they pop up, I
really need to see what line they are in, so I don’t have to follow
the line until I see someone familiar and say, oh it’s this line.
And people have said, create 10 projects but that doesn’t allow me
to move the person easily to the supposedly correct line/project. So
the color is the big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6
Johns and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J
When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or disappear?
I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t get it to stay or work.
I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before I make
that final decision__
Dawn Beeks
653 Pampas Place
Sierra Vista, AZ 85635
520 249-5595
dawnbe...@msn.com
*From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net]
*Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM
*To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
RootsMagic 7
Dawn,
I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I looked
at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy as my main
program. At first the lack of flags (Legacy calls these tagging)
and the lack of accent colors bothered me.
While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the accent
colors.
The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full version has
nine. Mine were assigned very quickly and I want more, more, more.
IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full program. That's
the only way that you'll see all of Legacy's functions and options.
Barbara
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RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in TMG J We now have to think outside the box. I have bought both Legacy and Roots Magic 7 and playing with the features. Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors. If I pick a person/ancestor and color code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all the descendents? (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it? That’s all I need to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color. What am I missing in doing this function. If I can do this, then all is good. I actually needed 9 colors but I can adjust a line. If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring? I tried to do color a person but nothing happened. I tried it on a couple of people but they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a person. Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again how is the computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways. I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like Windows. OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that. I’d probably have to attend a class to figure that one out. Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 people. Tks again Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 9:10 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 I can see why she is hesitant about Legacy in re the colors, since Legacy uses color only to identify 8 ancestral lines of one person. It is s much easier to identify family groups by color rather than by number or code; it involves no searches, and that family group is always immediately obvious. This is something that should be entered as a suggestion for Legacy, although I am not sure she can do that since she is not using Legacy. It is a marvelous idea to use colors to identify specific families rather than merely one person's ancestral lines! It would be immensely helpful to those who have many medieval families with myriad branches that are very difficult to keep straight. CE _ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:36:51 +0800 From: genea...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 Legacy 8 allows you to set two lines and use 8 colours rather than the original 4. There's more in the Help file than what Sherry has quoted. This is not doing what you've been using colours for in TMG if I understand you correctly. To bring over the TMG colours you need to use some alternative such as a code in privacy brackets in the Suffix field or the extremely complicated tag system suggested. Since you need tags available to do complicated searches, I wouldn't assign too many tags to keep track of things. Much better to add a Private Event that you can search for and create a Search list when you need to concentrate on that particular thing. Cathy Dawn Beeks wrote: So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones listed below. Or can I use more colors. Dawn B eeks 653 Pampas Place Sierra Vista, AZ 85635 520 249-5595 dawnbe...@msn.com *From:*Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding system used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational system helps keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective genealogy research. The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots of collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate direct-line great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many generations. As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until they divided th e chart up into four quarters by color. Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents. All the ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same color: Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for the current individual is shown on the /Family /and /Pedigree Views /letting you quickly know what line you are looking at. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com%20%0b%3cmailto:dawnbe...@msn.com mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com wrote: Are you saying you can only have two
RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Dawn, Color coding is for ancestors not descendants. You pick an anchor person and then you can color code 4 or 8 of their ancestral lines. (4 would be the 4 grandparent lines, 8 would be the 8 great-grandparent lines). You can do this with TWO anchor people. Many people will color code their ancestral line and then color code their spouses ancestral lines. You will see these colors in two places. There will be a colored box on the Family View and you can see it on the Pedigree View. You can also have the colors print on a Pedigree Chart. The two sets of eight colors has a default but you can change any or all of the colors to what you want. If you want me to send you some screen shots that might explain this better just let me know. I can’t send screenshots to the list but I can send them to you directly. Michele Technical Support mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com mich...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com From: Dawn Beeks [mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:07 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in TMG :) We now have to think outside the box. I have bought both Legacy and Roots Magic 7 and playing with the features. Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors. If I pick a person/ancestor and color code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all the descendents? (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it? That’s all I need to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color. What am I missing in doing this function. If I can do this, then all is good. I actually needed 9 colors but I can adjust a line. If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring? I tried to do color a person but nothing happened. I tried it on a couple of people but they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a person. Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again how is the computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways. I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like Windows. OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that. I’d probably have to attend a class to figure that one out. Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 people. Tks again Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
It looks like I could use 2 colors for one spouse, 2 for the other and 4 for myself. I also have info on my children's spouses. I suppose I could use a color for the 2 of them and limit mine to 2 lines as long as the total is no more than 8. Correct? Sent from my iPad On Dec 2, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Dawn, Color coding is for ancestors not descendants. You pick an anchor person and then you can color code 4 or 8 of their ancestral lines. (4 would be the 4 grandparent lines, 8 would be the 8 great-grandparent lines). You can do this with TWO anchor people. Many people will color code their ancestral line and then color code their spouses ancestral lines. You will see these colors in two places. There will be a colored box on the Family View and you can see it on the Pedigree View. You can also have the colors print on a Pedigree Chart. The two sets of eight colors has a default but you can change any or all of the colors to what you want. If you want me to send you some screen shots that might explain this better just let me know. I can’t send screenshots to the list but I can send them to you directly. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com From: Dawn Beeks [mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:07 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in TMG J We now have to think outside the box. I have bought both Legacy and Roots Magic 7 and playing with the features. Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors. If I pick a person/ancestor and color code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all the descendents? (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it? That’s all I need to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color. What am I missing in doing this function. If I can do this, then all is good. I actually needed 9 colors but I can adjust a line. If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring? I tried to do color a person but nothing happened. I tried it on a couple of people but they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a person. Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again how is the computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways. I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like Windows. OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that. I’d probably have to attend a class to figure that one out. Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 people. Tks again Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Since most of us /aren't/ expert TMG users, we don't know what your TMG box looks like, acts like, or does. Makes it more difficult to communicate meaningfully. Try the HELP file; click on HELP from the ribbon just under the name of the database. Then click on INDEX and enter Customize. Then click on COLORS then on Customize-View. Scroll down to 8.3. And if it insists on having an ancestor or descendant create Fake_Ancestor and/or Fake_Descendant and color-code from there. Outsmarting the computer is a game and extra points for creativity while playing. Cheryl Dawn Beeks wrote: Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in TMG JWe now have to think outside the box. I have bought both Legacy and Roots Magic 7 and playing with the features. Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors. If I pick a person/ancestor and color code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all the descendents? (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it? That’s all I need to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color. What am I missing in doing this function. If I can do this, then all is good. I actually needed 9 colors but I can adjust a line. If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring? I tried to do color a person but nothing happened. I tried it on a couple of people but they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a person. Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again how is the computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways. I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like Windows. OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that. I’d probably have to attend a class to figure that one out. Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 people. Tks again Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com *From:*CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 9:10 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 I can see why she is hesitant about Legacy in re the colors, since Legacy uses color only to identify 8 ancestral lines of one person. It is s much easier to identify family groups by color rather than by number or code; it involves no searches, and that family group is always immediately obvious. This is something that should be entered as a suggestion for Legacy, although I am not sure she can do that since she is not using Legacy. It is a marvelous idea to use colors to identify specific families rather than merely one person's ancestral lines! It would be immensely helpful to those who have many medieval families with myriad branches that are very difficult to keep straight. CE Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:36:51 +0800 From: genea...@gmail.com mailto:genea...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 Legacy 8 allows you to set two lines and use 8 colours rather than the original 4. There's more in the Help file than what Sherry has quoted. This is not doing what you've been using colours for in TMG if I understand you correctly. To bring over the TMG colours you need to use some alternative such as a code in privacy brackets in the Suffix field or the extremely complicated tag system suggested. Since you need tags available to do complicated searches, I wouldn't assign too many tags to keep track of things. Much better to add a Private Event that you can search for and create a Search list when you need to concentrate on that particular thing. Cathy Dawn Beeks wrote: So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones listed below. Or can I use more colors. Dawn B eeks 653 Pampas Place Sierra Vista, AZ 85635 520 249-5595 dawnbe...@msn.com mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com *From:*Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding system used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational system helps keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective genealogy research. The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots of collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate direct-line great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many generations. As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until they divided th e
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Thanks Sent from my iPad On Dec 2, 2014, at 8:58 AM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote: Since most of us /aren't/ expert TMG users, we don't know what your TMG box looks like, acts like, or does. Makes it more difficult to communicate meaningfully. Try the HELP file; click on HELP from the ribbon just under the name of the database. Then click on INDEX and enter Customize. Then click on COLORS then on Customize-View. Scroll down to 8.3. And if it insists on having an ancestor or descendant create Fake_Ancestor and/or Fake_Descendant and color-code from there. Outsmarting the computer is a game and extra points for creativity while playing. Cheryl Dawn Beeks wrote: Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in TMG JWe now have to think outside the box. I have bought both Legacy and Roots Magic 7 and playing with the features. Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors. If I pick a person/ancestor and color code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all the descendents? (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it? That’s all I need to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color. What am I missing in doing this function. If I can do this, then all is good. I actually needed 9 colors but I can adjust a line. If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring? I tried to do color a person but nothing happened. I tried it on a couple of people but they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a person. Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again how is the computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways. I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like Windows. OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that. I’d probably have to attend a class to figure that one out. Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 people. Tks again Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com *From:*CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 9:10 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 I can see why she is hesitant about Legacy in re the colors, since Legacy uses color only to identify 8 ancestral lines of one person. It is s much easier to identify family groups by color rather than by number or code; it involves no searches, and that family group is always immediately obvious. This is something that should be entered as a suggestion for Legacy, although I am not sure she can do that since she is not using Legacy. It is a marvelous idea to use colors to identify specific families rather than merely one person's ancestral lines! It would be immensely helpful to those who have many medieval families with myriad branches that are very difficult to keep straight. CE Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:36:51 +0800 From: genea...@gmail.com mailto:genea...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 Legacy 8 allows you to set two lines and use 8 colours rather than the original 4. There's more in the Help file than what Sherry has quoted. This is not doing what you've been using colours for in TMG if I understand you correctly. To bring over the TMG colours you need to use some alternative such as a code in privacy brackets in the Suffix field or the extremely complicated tag system suggested. Since you need tags available to do complicated searches, I wouldn't assign too many tags to keep track of things. Much better to add a Private Event that you can search for and create a Search list when you need to concentrate on that particular thing. Cathy Dawn Beeks wrote: So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones listed below. Or can I use more colors. Dawn B eeks 653 Pampas Place Sierra Vista, AZ 85635 520 249-5595 dawnbe...@msn.com mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com *From:*Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding system used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational system helps keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective genealogy research. The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots of collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate direct-line great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many
RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Ancestry.com does not have a color capability for its family trees. Here is what one of its users came up with to overcome this lack of capability. In the individual picture area, she used a blank colored background for a picture. This is a method that could be used in Legacy. One could make the preferred picture a colored background and it would be visible on the family view and the pedigree view. The limitation I see here would be searching. There is no capability to search using the preferred picture as a parameter I personally would not like this method because I would prefer to see a headshot of the individual on the family view and pedigree view instead of a color blotch. However, it might work for someone who is primarily interested in showing DNA proven lineages. Bobby From: Dawn Beeks [mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 9:07 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 Okay please bear with me on these color questions, as my mind is trained in TMG :) We now have to think outside the box. I have bought both Legacy and Roots Magic 7 and playing with the features. Below CE Wood said I can use 8 colors. If I pick a person/ancestor and color code him, say red, will it go down that particular line and color code all the descendents? (Even if I had to do manually, I’d do it. It would be worth it) The system isn’t going to know if it’s my ancestor, is it? That’s all I need to do, just pick 8 people and give them a color. What am I missing in doing this function. If I can do this, then all is good. I actually needed 9 colors but I can adjust a line. If that can be done, where are the instructions to do the coloring? I tried to do color a person but nothing happened. I tried it on a couple of people but they all stayed the same color blue, that system used when you input a person. Or would it not work because it wasn’t my ancestor line but again how is the computer going to know who my ancestor is anyways. I do like Legacy a bit more over RM7 because it operates/look more like Windows. OMG all this binary talk, I’m lost on that. I’d probably have to attend a class to figure that one out. Hopefully someone can explain this to me, as to why I can’t just pick 8 people. Tks again Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
I polly outta stay out of this, but I won't. After following the thread here, sounds to me as if you don't really need *colors*, all you really need is a way to distinguish the 23 John Smith or Benedict Beek one from the other. In the name fields, Legacy has both a prefix and a suffix, both of which will display in the Name List as well as the family-view and pedigree view. Pick one of 'em, and assign your color-lines a number -- me, I'd assign the line with the most people the #1; but you could assign Amber as #1 and Yellow as #25; or your own line as #1, etc. The possibilities probably rival those 256 million colors 90% of the population can't distinguish anyway. If this knots up your undies, no need to say so, you can just ignore me. Lots of people *DO*. Cheryl Who still not-so-secretly prefers PAF 2.31. Dawn Beeks wrote: Barbara, Thanks for your input. Because I have 10 different lines of “beeks”, when they pop up, I really need to see what line they are in, so I don’t have to follow the line until I see someone familiar and say, oh it’s this line. And people have said, create 10 projects but that doesn’t allow me to move the person easily to the supposedly correct line/project. So the color is the big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6 Johns and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or disappear? I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t get it to stay or work. I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before I make that final decision__ Dawn Beeks 653 Pampas Place Sierra Vista, AZ 85635 520 249-5595 dawnbe...@msn.com *From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net] *Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 Dawn, I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I looked at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy as my main program. At first the lack of flags (Legacy calls these tagging) and the lack of accent colors bothered me. While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the accent colors. The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full version has nine. Mine were assigned very quickly and I want more, more, more. IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full program. That's the only way that you'll see all of Legacy's functions and options. Barbara Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Thanks, Cheryl, for not staying out of it :). A lot of us TMG users are
trying to figure out how we can do things in our new software. This is
very hard sometimes because we are not nearly as familiar with the new
software, because it is often hard to think outside of the TMG box,
and because we have such long lists of workarounds we are trying to
find. So, any feasible ideas are welcome! They may not work for all, but
they may work for some.
For those who do not knot their undies easily ... I experimented with
putting the number or letter in parens, say (11), after any real suffix.
The parens would distinguish the code from any true Prefix or Suffix
that I have and from the RINs (displayed as [11]) and user IDs
(displayed as {11}). Another nice thing about the prefix/suffix solution
is that those fields are searchable. So, I could search for all persons
coded (11) or for all persons coded at all ((). This is not a
replacement for more tags (which can be set via Advanced Tagging), but
it might be a feasible workaround for some.
Another possibility would be to treat the Legacy Tags as one would a
9-bit binary number. However, to distinguish 10 lines, you would need
to use only 4 Tags. Where T is tagged and u is untagged:
Tags - 1234
Line 1 - uuuT
Line 2 - uuTu
Line 3 - uuTT
Line 4 - uTuu
Line 5 - uTuT
Line 6 - uTTu
Line 7 - uTTT
Line 8 - Tuuu
Line 9 - TuuT
Line 10 - TuTu
This would have the advantage that one would learn to count to 10 in
binary very quickly.
Barbara L.
On 12/1/2014 10:34 AM, singhals wrote:
I polly outta stay out of this, but I won't.
After following the thread here, sounds to me as if you
don't really need *colors*, all you really need is a way to
distinguish the 23 John Smith or Benedict Beek one from the
other.
In the name fields, Legacy has both a prefix and a suffix,
both of which will display in the Name List as well as the
family-view and pedigree view. Pick one of 'em, and assign
your color-lines a number -- me, I'd assign the line with
the most people the #1; but you could assign Amber as #1 and
Yellow as #25; or your own line as #1, etc. The
possibilities probably rival those 256 million colors 90% of
the population can't distinguish anyway.
If this knots up your undies, no need to say so, you can
just ignore me. Lots of people *DO*.
Cheryl
Who still not-so-secretly prefers PAF 2.31.
Dawn Beeks wrote:
Barbara,
Thanks for your input.
Because I have 10 different lines of “beeksâ€, when they pop
up, I really need to see what line they are in, so I don’t
have to follow the line until I see someone familiar and
say, oh it’s this line. And people have said, create 10
projects but that doesn’t allow me to move the person easily
to the supposedly correct line/project. So the color is the
big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6 Johns
and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J
When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or
disappear?
I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t get it to stay or work.
I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before
I make that final decision__
Dawn Beeks
653 Pampas Place
Sierra Vista, AZ 85635
520 249-5595
dawnbe...@msn.com
*From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net]
*Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM
*To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
RootsMagic 7
Dawn,
I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I
looked at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy
as my main program. At first the lack of flags (Legacy calls
these tagging) and the lack of accent colors bothered me.
While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the
accent colors.
The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full
version has nine. Mine were assigned very quickly and I want
more, more, more.
IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full
program. That's the only way that you'll see all of Legacy's
functions and options.
Barbara
--
Barbara Levergood
leverg...@att.net
(=^·^=)~
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
I can't remember for sure, but I seem to recall that when you use
something in a prefix or suffix and export your file as a GEDCOM, the
suffix or prefix is included. So, a numbering scheme, or a color-scheme
for your own benefit only, would possibly not be meaningful, once shared
with someone else or on the web...So, that's probably the reason
colors are not included as part of a GEDCOM transfer. However, tags
usually come across on a GEDCOM as an event. Someone correct me if that
is not accurate... Jerry Boor, MerriamFamilyTree.org
On 12/1/2014 11:39 AM, Barbara Levergood wrote:
Thanks, Cheryl, for not staying out of it :). A lot of us TMG users are
trying to figure out how we can do things in our new software. This is
very hard sometimes because we are not nearly as familiar with the new
software, because it is often hard to think outside of the TMG box,
and because we have such long lists of workarounds we are trying to
find. So, any feasible ideas are welcome! They may not work for all, but
they may work for some.
For those who do not knot their undies easily ... I experimented with
putting the number or letter in parens, say (11), after any real suffix.
The parens would distinguish the code from any true Prefix or Suffix
that I have and from the RINs (displayed as [11]) and user IDs
(displayed as {11}). Another nice thing about the prefix/suffix solution
is that those fields are searchable. So, I could search for all persons
coded (11) or for all persons coded at all ((). This is not a
replacement for more tags (which can be set via Advanced Tagging), but
it might be a feasible workaround for some.
Another possibility would be to treat the Legacy Tags as one would a
9-bit binary number. However, to distinguish 10 lines, you would need
to use only 4 Tags. Where T is tagged and u is untagged:
Tags - 1234
Line 1 - uuuT
Line 2 - uuTu
Line 3 - uuTT
Line 4 - uTuu
Line 5 - uTuT
Line 6 - uTTu
Line 7 - uTTT
Line 8 - Tuuu
Line 9 - TuuT
Line 10 - TuTu
This would have the advantage that one would learn to count to 10 in
binary very quickly.
Barbara L.
On 12/1/2014 10:34 AM, singhals wrote:
I polly outta stay out of this, but I won't.
After following the thread here, sounds to me as if you
don't really need *colors*, all you really need is a way to
distinguish the 23 John Smith or Benedict Beek one from the
other.
In the name fields, Legacy has both a prefix and a suffix,
both of which will display in the Name List as well as the
family-view and pedigree view. Pick one of 'em, and assign
your color-lines a number -- me, I'd assign the line with
the most people the #1; but you could assign Amber as #1 and
Yellow as #25; or your own line as #1, etc. The
possibilities probably rival those 256 million colors 90% of
the population can't distinguish anyway.
If this knots up your undies, no need to say so, you can
just ignore me. Lots of people *DO*.
Cheryl
Who still not-so-secretly prefers PAF 2.31.
Dawn Beeks wrote:
Barbara,
Thanks for your input.
Because I have 10 different lines of “beeksâ€Â, when they pop
up, I really need to see what line they are in, so I don’t
have to follow the line until I see someone familiar and
say, oh it’s this line. And people have said, create 10
projects but that doesn’t allow me to move the person easily
to the supposedly correct line/project. So the color is the
big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6 Johns
and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J
When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or
disappear?
I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t get it to stay or
work.
I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before
I make that final decision__
Dawn Beeks
653 Pampas Place
Sierra Vista, AZ 85635
520 249-5595
dawnbe...@msn.com
*From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net]
*Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM
*To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
RootsMagic 7
Dawn,
I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I
looked at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy
as my main program. At first the lack of flags (Legacy calls
these tagging) and the lack of accent colors bothered me.
While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the
accent colors.
The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full
version has nine. Mine were assigned very quickly and I want
more, more, more.
IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full
program. That's the only way that you'll see all of Legacy's
functions and options.
Barbara
Legacy User Group guidelines:
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Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Dawn, I, too, am looking at eventually moving from TMG to another program. I came across the announcement a couple of months ago about Legacy building an import tool for TMG users. I couldn't find any updates on its status so recently joined this forum in hopes of learning more about the tool's development. Discussion I have had with Wholly Genes and with Second Site creator John Cardinal trend to suggest that TMG 9 will continue to function on Windows platforms for several years of advancements with the Windows platform. So we don't have to rush to Legacy or another application, we have time for Legacy to fully develop the importer. My goal is to be able to import TMG tables into a new application without going through a gedcom. I fear the gedcom standard hasn't caught up to apps like TMG capabilities and we could loose or misidentify a lot of our TMG data importing to another app via a gedcom. I'd like to hear more from Barbara on how she converted TMG to Legacy and was it an accurate transfer. She blazed a trail I'm not ready to travel. If we can learn from her and others where the potholes are on that path, we can experience a better transition. I also use Second Site, the third party app to TMG for converting the data to html pages for my web site so our organization's members can access the tree. So any replacement to TMG must have a solution for converting to web pages. Jamie Diana Poindexter, Research Committee co-chair webmaster Poindexter Descendants Association www.poindexterfamily.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Sherry, Do keep me in mind when it comes time to test the importer. Jamie On 12/1/2014 12:13 PM, Sherry/Support wrote: The programmer is still working on the direct import. We'd be happy to have you as a tester when it's available, if you'd like to volunteer. Thanks for your interest in Legacy! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Jamie Poindexter webmas...@poindexterfamily.org mailto:webmas...@poindexterfamily.org wrote: Dawn, I, too, am looking at eventually moving from TMG to another program. I came across the announcement a couple of months ago about Legacy building an import tool for TMG users. I couldn't find any updates on its status so recently joined this forum in hopes of learning more about the tool's development. Discussion I have had with Wholly Genes and with Second Site creator John Cardinal trend to suggest that TMG 9 will continue to function on Windows platforms for several years of advancements with the Windows platform. So we don't have to rush to Legacy or another application, we have time for Legacy to fully develop the importer. My goal is to be able to import TMG tables into a new application without going through a gedcom. I fear the gedcom standard hasn't caught up to apps like TMG capabilities and we could loose or misidentify a lot of our TMG data importing to another app via a gedcom. I'd like to hear more from Barbara on how she converted TMG to Legacy and was it an accurate transfer. She blazed a trail I'm not ready to travel. If we can learn from her and others where the potholes are on that path, we can experience a better transition. I also use Second Site, the third party app to TMG for converting the data to html pages for my web site so our organization's members can access the tree. So any replacement to TMG must have a solution for converting to web pages. Jamie Diana Poindexter, Research Committee co-chair webmaster Poindexter Descendants Association www.poindexterfamily.org http://www.poindexterfamily.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Jerry et al,
If you want something for your private use in any field in Legacy,
enclose it in privacy brackets [[ ]] double square brackets.
Then it can be included or not as you choose in reports and exports -
however, it's an all or nothing include or exclude. You can't include
the private note in some fields and not others.
However, if you really needed to do this (include the private data in
some fields and not others), you could make a copy of your file and then
search and replace on a field to remove the brackets in a particular
field or replace them with a different bracket.
There's often a way to do things if you think around the issue.
Cathy
Jerry wrote:
I can't remember for sure, but I seem to recall that when you use
something in a prefix or suffix and export your file as a GEDCOM, the
suffix or prefix is included. So, a numbering scheme, or a color-scheme
for your own benefit only, would possibly not be meaningful, once shared
with someone else or on the web... So, that's probably the reason
colors are not included as part of a GEDCOM transfer. However, tags
usually come across on a GEDCOM as an event. Someone correct me if that
is not accurate... Jerry Boor, MerriamFamilyTree.org
On 12/1/2014 11:39 AM, Barbara Levergood wrote:
Thanks, Cheryl, for not staying out of it :). A lot of us TMG users are
trying to figure out how we can do things in our new software. This is
very hard sometimes because we are not nearly as familiar with the new
software, because it is often hard to think outside of the TMG box,
and because we have such long lists of workarounds we are trying to
find. So, any feasible ideas are welcome! They may not work for all, but
they may work for some.
For those who do not knot their undies easily ... I experimented with
putting the number or letter in parens, say (11), after any real suffix.
The parens would distinguish the code from any true Prefix or Suffix
that I have and from the RINs (displayed as [11]) and user IDs
(displayed as {11}). Another nice thing about the prefix/suffix solution
is that those fields are searchable. So, I could search for all persons
coded (11) or for all persons coded at all ((). This is not a
replacement for more tags (which can be set via Advanced Tagging), but
it might be a feasible workaround for some.
Another possibility would be to treat the Legacy Tags as one would a
9-bit binary number. However, to distinguish 10 lines, you would need
to use only 4 Tags. Where T is tagged and u is untagged:
Tags - 1234
Line 1 - uuuT
Line 2 - uuTu
Line 3 - uuTT
Line 4 - uTuu
Line 5 - uTuT
Line 6 - uTTu
Line 7 - uTTT
Line 8 - Tuuu
Line 9 - TuuT
Line 10 - TuTu
This would have the advantage that one would learn to count to 10 in
binary very quickly.
Barbara L.
On 12/1/2014 10:34 AM, singhals wrote:
I polly outta stay out of this, but I won't.
After following the thread here, sounds to me as if you
don't really need *colors*, all you really need is a way to
distinguish the 23 John Smith or Benedict Beek one from the
other.
In the name fields, Legacy has both a prefix and a suffix,
both of which will display in the Name List as well as the
family-view and pedigree view. Pick one of 'em, and assign
your color-lines a number -- me, I'd assign the line with
the most people the #1; but you could assign Amber as #1 and
Yellow as #25; or your own line as #1, etc. The
possibilities probably rival those 256 million colors 90% of
the population can't distinguish anyway.
If this knots up your undies, no need to say so, you can
just ignore me. Lots of people *DO*.
Cheryl
Who still not-so-secretly prefers PAF 2.31.
Dawn Beeks wrote:
Barbara,
Thanks for your input.
Because I have 10 different lines of “beeksâ€ÂÂ,
when they pop
up, I really need to see what line they are in, so I don’t
have to follow the line until I see someone familiar and
say, oh it’s this line. And people have said, create 10
projects but that doesn’t allow me to move the person
easily
to the supposedly correct line/project. So the color is the
big clincher for me, especially when I have 5 or 6 Johns
and Williams all born in the same timeframe. J
When you did your transfer, did your colors roll over or
disappear?
I’ve tried doing the colors, but I can’t
get it to
stay or work.
I will go ahead and buy the deluxe and play some more before
I make that final decision__
Dawn Beeks
653 Pampas Place
Sierra Vista, AZ 85635
520 249-5595
dawnbe...@msn.com
*From:*karenhappuch [mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net]
*Sent:* Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:01 PM
*To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs
RootsMagic 7
Dawn,
I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I
looked at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy
RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones listed below. Or can I use more colors. Dawn Beeks 653 Pampas Place Sierra Vista, AZ 85635 520 249-5595 dawnbe...@msn.com From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding system used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational system helps keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective genealogy research. The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots of collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate direct-line great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many generations. As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until they divided the chart up into four quarters by color. Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents. All the ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same color: Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for the current individual is shown on the Family and Pedigree Views letting you quickly know what line you are looking at. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com wrote: Are you saying you can only have two colors in one project? So if I have 4 lines of Beeks in one project, I can’t start with the ancestor and give each line a different color? I would want something like the Beeks of VA to be Blue, Beeks of PA be green, Beeks of OH be yellow and Beeks of SC, be red. I find that strange, with the huge color palette you can choose from. Or am I not understanding something. You can put me down for testing too Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Legacy 8 allows you to set two lines and use 8 colours rather than the original 4. There's more in the Help file than what Sherry has quoted. This is not doing what you've been using colours for in TMG if I understand you correctly. To bring over the TMG colours you need to use some alternative such as a code in privacy brackets in the Suffix field or the extremely complicated tag system suggested. Since you need tags available to do complicated searches, I wouldn't assign too many tags to keep track of things. Much better to add a Private Event that you can search for and create a Search list when you need to concentrate on that particular thing. Cathy Dawn Beeks wrote: So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones listed below. Or can I use more colors. Dawn Beeks 653 Pampas Place Sierra Vista, AZ 85635 520 249-5595 dawnbe...@msn.com *From:*Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding system used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational system helps keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective genealogy research. The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots of collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate direct-line great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many generations. As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until they divided the chart up into four quarters by color. Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents. All the ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same color: Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for the current individual is shown on the /Family /and /Pedigree Views /letting you quickly know what line you are looking at. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com wrote: Are you saying you can only have two colors in one project? So if I have 4 lines of Beeks in one project, I can’t start with the ancestor and give each line a different color? I would want something like the Beeks of VA to be Blue, Beeks of PA be green, Beeks of OH be yellow and Beeks of SC, be red. I find that strange, with the huge color palette you can choose from. Or am I not understanding something. You can put me down for testing too Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
I can see why she is hesitant about Legacy in re the colors, since Legacy uses color only to identify 8 ancestral lines of one person. It is s much easier to identify family groups by color rather than by number or code; it involves no searches, and that family group is always immediately obvious. This is something that should be entered as a suggestion for Legacy, although I am not sure she can do that since she is not using Legacy. It is a marvelous idea to use colors to identify specific families rather than merely one person's ancestral lines! It would be immensely helpful to those who have many medieval families with myriad branches that are very difficult to keep straight. CE Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:36:51 +0800 From: genea...@gmail.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 Legacy 8 allows you to set two lines and use 8 colours rather than the original 4. There's more in the Help file than what Sherry has quoted. This is not doing what you've been using colours for in TMG if I understand you correctly. To bring over the TMG colours you need to use some alternative such as a code in privacy brackets in the Suffix field or the extremely complicated tag system suggested. Since you need tags available to do complicated searches, I wouldn't assign too many tags to keep track of things. Much better to add a Private Event that you can search for and create a Search list when you need to concentrate on that particular thing. Cathy Dawn Beeks wrote: So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones listed below. Or can I use more colors. Dawn B eeks 653 Pampas Place Sierra Vista, AZ 85635 520 249-5595 dawnbe...@msn.com *From:*Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding system used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational system helps keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective genealogy research. The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots of collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate direct-line great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many generations. As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until they divided th e chart up into four quarters by color. Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents. All the ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same color: Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for the current individual is shown on the /Family /and /Pedigree Views /letting you quickly know what line you are looking at. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com wrote: Are you saying you can only have two colors in one project? So if I have 4 lines of Beeks in one project, I can’t s tart with the ancestor and give each line a different color? I would want something like the Beeks of VA to be Blue, Beeks of PA be green, Beeks of OH be yellow and Beeks of SC, be red. I find that strange, with the huge color palette you can choose from. Or am I not understanding something. You can put me down for testing too Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com mailto:dawnbe...@msn.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
You can change the colors. You don't have to use the default colors - those are the ones that work with Mary's system that she devised. The full system can be found at http://www.genrootsorganizer.com/ Please realize that the Mary E.V. Hill Ancestor Color Coding system isn't necessarily for coloring lines but for coloring the ancestors of a specific individual. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Dawn Beeks dawnbe...@msn.com wrote: So you are saying I can have only 4 colors and I must use the ones listed below. Or can I use more colors. Dawn Beeks 653 Pampas Place Sierra Vista, AZ 85635 520 249-5595 dawnbe...@msn.com *From:* Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 7:35 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7 From the Help file for Ancestor: Color Coding Accredited genealogist Mary E. V. Hill developed this color-coding system used in Legacy. Adding color-coding to your organizational system helps keep your ancestral lines straight and promotes effective genealogy research. The idea for color-coding began when family researchers finding lots of collateral genealogy information felt a need to concentrate direct-line great- and great-great-grandparents going back for many generations. As they worked on large pedigree charts it became overwhelming until they divided the chart up into four quarters by color. Color-code your pedigree by the lineages of your four grandparents. All the ancestors of one grandparent will be organized under the same color: Grandfather's lineage on your father's side: BLUE Grandmother's lineage on your father's side: GREEN Grandfather's lineage on your mother's side: RED Grandmother's lineage on your mother's side: YELLOW As you navigate through your family file in Legacy the color code for the current individual is shown on the *Family *and *Pedigree Views *letting you quickly know what line you are looking at. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TMG looking for new home Legacy vs RootsMagic 7
Dawn, I've migrated from TMG to Legacy over the past few months. I looked at the same programs that you have, but chose Legacy as my main program. At first the lack of flags (Legacy calls these tagging) and the lack of accent colors bothered me. While improved tagging would be great, I no longer miss the accent colors. The free version of Legacy has only 3 tags, but the full version has nine. Mine were assigned very quickly and I want more, more, more. IMO TMG users considering Legacy should buy the full program. That's the only way that you'll see all of Legacy's functions and options. Barbara Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
